Were the hackers who broke into the DNC’s email really Russian? - Polidicks

[QUOTE]The question of whether political operative Roger Stone helped Russian hackers break into the email of Democratic politicians, to some people, invites another: Who says the hackers were Russian? The FBI does, and so do several U.S. intelligence agencies, as they’ve declared repeatedly over the past five months. But among private-sector computer security companies, not everybody thinks the case is proven. “I have no problem blaming Russia for what they do, which is a lot,” said Jeffrey Carr of the international cybersecurity company Taia Global Inc. “I just don’t want to blame them for things we don’t know that they did. It may turn out that they’re guilty, but we are very short on evidence here.” As Carr notes, the FBI never examined the servers that were hacked at the Democratic National Committee. Instead, the DNC used the private computer security company CrowdStrike to detect and repair the penetrations. [/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article140461978.html"]http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article140461978.html[/URL] Really Growing doubt in the private sector.

i don't think it is out of the question that the russians did it, but it also wouldn't be out of character for some 3 letter agency to have done it in such a way to implicate the russians, either

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;52045368]Motive is missing - Why would an American agency hack the DNC, send the results to Wikileaks, and fight to make Trump the winner? What do they have to gain? Congratulations, Trump is the president now. What is the next step of their master plan? How long term are they playing this?[/QUOTE] It was a counter-coup from within the agency. The compartmentalized sections are warring with themselves now that Hillary lost and pedophile rings are being exposed.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;52045368]Motive is missing - Why would an American agency hack the DNC, send the results to Wikileaks, and fight to make Trump the winner? What do they have to gain? Congratulations, Trump is the president now. What is the next step of their master plan? How long term are they playing this?[/QUOTE] i'm just spitballing some ideas and don't have any stake or real belief in them, but perhaps to install a president that is seen as illegitimate. that'd cause some instability, and with instability can come attempts to grab power. an american agency doesn't necessarily have to have american interests at heart. could even be a rogue faction attempting to gain control. or, perhaps they want to create a sort of casus belli to up the electronic and espionage war with russia, which would give them more funding and greater power leeway. i would not be surprised if some of our intelligence agencies pine for the cold war days, when they were likely at their height of unaccounted power. having it appear that russia had a hand in installing a US president would certainly send us back there. or russia hacked the dnc to cause instability in the US, which would likely benefit them. thinking on it now, the russians could have done the dnc hacks, leaked the information to wikileaks, then used agents within the cia to leak the documents showing that the cia is capable of making a hack look like it came from somewhere else (russia, in this case) to sow discord and mistrust in the US intelligence community, government, and society. this would be a pretty slick plan. if a US intelligence agency didn't have a hand in this, this entire clusterfuck has likely put most of our intelligence agencies into disarray and strained trust. this would definitely harm the US in general, as we are currently seeing really, we will probably never know what the fuck is actually happening. the only thing we can do is watch and try to read the many potential truths that lie between the lines. maybe someday this entire shit show will be declassified

[QUOTE=Marbalo;52048143]A good rule of thumb is, if you've thought about it or the thought crossed your mind, the government has already thought about it years or even decades before you did. The myth of the government being "too incompetent" for conspiracy theories is absolutely unsubstantiated and bogus.[/QUOTE] these are my thoughts exactly. some parts of our government do appear incompetent, but to see that and think "the whole government is incompetent" is frankly stupid and goes against quite a lot of evidence.