[QUOTE] PARIS —A French father won a 30-year quest for justice for his dead daughter after a German doctor he had kidnapped and delivered to the French courts to face charges was convicted of her killing.
A Paris court sentenced Dieter Krombach, 76, to 15 years in jail after he was found guilty over the death of his step-daughter Kalinka at their German home in 1982.
The girl's biological father Andre Bamberski had Krombach kidnapped and brought to France in 2009 after German authorities decided he had no case to answer.
Bamberski will eventually face court himself for the vigilante action which caused a media sensation.
Krombach, who went on trial on October 4, was convicted of "deliberate violence leading to involuntary death" at Paris' main criminal court, bringing to an end the three-decade-long legal and diplomatic drama.
His lawyer Yves Levano said he would appeal the verdict however.
Krombach showed no sign of emotion when he learned of his fate, while his red-eyed daughter went to take his hand across the screen of the dock.
Kalinka, a healthy 14-year-old girl, was found dead in her bed at the home she shared with her younger brother, her mother and step-father and their two children near Lake Constance in southern Germany in July 1982. A local autopsy proved inconclusive as to the cause of death.
Forensic examinations of the body did, however, call into doubt Krombach's account of the hours before t before the death.
His credibility was weakened in 1997 when he was convicted of drugging and raping a 16-year-old patient -- a case with no direct bearing on the French trial, but one that increased the suspicions of Kalinka's father.
German judges had dismissed the case in 1987, and Germany refused to send Krombach to France in 2004 when Paris issued a European arrest warrant, on the grounds that no one should be tried twice on the same charge.
Krombach had been convicted in absentia by a French court of "deliberate violence that led to involuntary death" -- but under French law, when someone tried in absentia is later arrested, there is a new trial.
There would have been no new trial however, if Bamberski had not taken the law into his own hands.
He hired a kidnap team and in October 2009 they snatched the doctor from his home in Scheidegg and brought him to France.
There, they abandoned him, trussed up, near the law courts in the border town of Mulhouse. Krombach was promptly arrested.
Bamberski has never made any secret of what he did, and expects to stand trial for his acts in several months.
He had been hoping for a conviction for murder against Krombach.
But after the verdict, he said: "Everything I have done has been for this, what I wanted, a fair and full trial ... I am going to be able to grieve." [/QUOTE]
May have some. Errors, using phone to post
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And he's one hardcore motherfucker
Thats some serious dedication
So if he was guilty.......hopefully the case on him going vigilante will be reduced or hopefully dropped all together.
What a fucked up doctor.
I would've done the same. Hang the son of a bitch. Politically correct thing to do? No. Morally? Fuck yes.
Wow, props to this man. The persistence is admirable...
I hope he has no more regrets and has found peace in his soul at last. :c
Vigilante justice done right, with no pointless killing.
Impressive.
Good man, we need more like him.
This is so awesome. He doesn't even care about himself, he just wants justice done. What a badass.
I think any dad would consider doing what he did.
This confused me. what the fuck is wrong with justice? Fuck principles.
[quote] refused to send Krombach to France in 2004 when Paris issued a European arrest warrant, on the grounds that no one should be tried twice on the same charge.
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French fathers are the best fathers.
This is a huge "fuck you" to the whole retarded "the french always surrender" thing.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;32975325]This is a huge "fuck you" to the whole retarded "the french always surrender" thing.[/QUOTE]No it's not, one man does not represent a country.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;32975465]No it's not, one man does not represent a country.[/QUOTE]
The whole french always surrender thing only came about because overhyped rednecks in america laughed at them not joining in on Afghanistan and Iraq.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;32974309]I would've done the same. Hang the son of a bitch. Politically correct thing to do? No. Morally? Fuck yes.[/QUOTE]
Kill someone for killing?
Moral?
I don't see the link.
[QUOTE=StealthArcher;32975529]The whole french always surrender thing only came about because overhyped rednecks in america laughed at them not joining in on Afghanistan and Iraq.[/QUOTE]
It comes from World War 2, what are you talking about?
Derailed in 12 posts. Fuck me, you guys are good.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;32975465]No it's not, one man does not represent a country.[/QUOTE]
Well please, come over here in France, enter a random street and tell a few guys here and there they are just cowards while holding a knife. We'll see if they coward their way out of the situation or not.
You are guaranteed to get your ass widely kicked, preferably with the exact knife you brought in the fight in the first place, at least three quarters of the time.
[QUOTE=Ogris;32976596]Fuck me[/QUOTE]
okay
[img]http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/23800000/the-punisher-the-punisher-23801950-480-360.jpg[/img]
[I][U]Do not fall in France... No-one's going to catch you.[/U][/I]
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32976674]Well please, come over here in France, enter a random street and tell a few guys here and there they are just cowards while holding a knife. We'll see if they coward their way out of the situation or not.
You are guaranteed to get your ass widely kicked, preferably with the exact knife you brought in the fight in the first place, at least three quarters of the time.[/QUOTE]
Chill France is actually pretty cool and it's history is even cooler. They just jelly.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;32975817]It comes from World War 2, what are you talking about?[/QUOTE]
And it's popular again due to what he said.
"...I'm going to find you, and I'm going to kill you..."
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32976674]Well please, come over here in France, enter a random street and tell a few guys here and there they are just cowards while holding a knife. We'll see if they coward their way out of the situation or not.
You are guaranteed to get your ass widely kicked, preferably with the exact knife you brought in the fight in the first place, at least three quarters of the time.[/QUOTE]
What is this, england?
I wish my father was Liam Neeson.
[QUOTE=StealthArcher;32975529]The whole french always surrender thing only came about because overhyped rednecks in america laughed at them not joining in on Afghanistan and Iraq.[/QUOTE]
And their horrid losses in the Napoleonic Wars, both Indochina Wars, and the Franco-Prussian War. Not to mention the sheer number of troops they lost in World War I and World War II.
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;32982480]And their horrid losses in the Napoleonic Wars, both Indochina Wars, and the Franco-Prussian War. Not to mention the sheer number of troops they lost in World War I and World War II.[/QUOTE]
As I recall the French beat the English bloody in the Hundred Years War, conquered most of Europe in the Napoleonic Wars before being beaten by a massive coalition (and you don't see people making 'cowardly German' jokes just because they ended up losing WW2), helped kicked Russia's ass in the Crimean war, and almost single-handedly bore the brunt of WW1, and then, after having their entire country fucked over by that war (which took place mostly in France), got subdued by the overwhelmingly more powerful German war machine in the second world war- and still continued to fight via resistance movements until the very end.
And let's ignore that they still have the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures"]third highest military expenditure[/URL] of all the countries of the world, only behind the US and China. I guess they really are just a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
Edit: The fact that this old, tired, invalid trope came up in the thread at all is just stupid.
[QUOTE=Source;32973755]So if he was guilty.......hopefully the case on him going vigilante will be reduced or hopefully dropped all together.[/QUOTE]
It shouldn't be because he went above the law. No one is above the law.
Doctors are fucking scary :ohdear:
[QUOTE=Zoran;32986375]Doctors are fucking scary :ohdear:[/QUOTE]
Not all doctors are like that.
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