• So I'm stuck on my electro project
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I've had this project on the shelf for a couple of weeks since I'm not really sure what to do with it. I've only produced music for 2 months, so my rookie skills are giving me a hard time with this one. I've heard a lot of good stuff coming out of this forum so I figured you might be able to help me :] I'd love some critique and ideas what I could do with it. The sound is a bit "empty", so I'd especially appreciate some ideas how I could fill it out. [media]http://soundcloud.com/samme-3/we-think-its-cool[/media] The intro part isn't supposed to be the beginning of the song, I just had to start somewhere.
Not bad man - you just need to add some warmth/punch to the drums, look into some sidechain compression on the bassline, and get some white noise/cymbals going to fill out the high end of the spectrum. Something I recently started doing (and I'm pretty new to this just like yourself) is splitting the bassline into 2 parts. Basically you have the "top half" with all the crunchiness and texture, with a hi pass filter to cut the low bass frequencies. Then duplicate the track and have a simple sine wave down an octave or 2 so it's in between say 30-100hz. This will be the sub bass track. Hope this helps, sorry if you already knew this :p Edit: Sounds like you might already have a sub bass, hard to tell with laptop speakers. But the bassline could definitely be improved with some sidechaining
You could add some subbass to fill it out. Also layer up some nice synths, like in Complextro. They fill out bassline nicely. Also you could really beef up that bass with some distortion and modulation, or remake it.
[QUOTE=Platinumcs;33312402]Not bad man - you just need to add some warmth/punch to the drums, look into some sidechain compression on the bassline, and get some white noise/cymbals going to fill out the high end of the spectrum. Something I recently started doing (and I'm pretty new to this just like yourself) is splitting the bassline into 2 parts. Basically you have the "top half" with all the crunchiness and texture, with a hi pass filter to cut the low bass frequencies. Then duplicate the track and have a simple sine wave down an octave or 2 so it's in between say 30-100hz. This will be the sub bass track. Hope this helps, sorry if you already knew this :p Edit: Sounds like you might already have a sub bass, hard to tell with laptop speakers. But the bassline could definitely be improved with some sidechaining[/QUOTE] Thanks for helping me out, luv it! Yeah, I do have a sub bass which I made by duplicating the bassline and using a -1 octave sine wave, just as you mentioned. Does it sound too weak? Also, I tried sidechaining the bassline by controlling its volume to a peak controller on the kick, didn't really come out nicely. Am I doing it wrong? I tried putting in some cymbals, but I reckon it kinda ruined the sound of the track a bit. I'll try with some white noise stuff. About the drums, how do I make them sound warmer? I think I agree, but I haven't been doing too much work on drums so I'd love to learn. Thanks again! And to Cobaltum (since I couldn't figure out how to double quote) - I'll look into some synths! I've already distorted the bass alot, but I'll give it a go too, thanks :)
[QUOTE=Zleesh;33317470]Thanks for helping me out, luv it! Also, I tried sidechaining the bassline by controlling its volume to a peak controller on the kick, didn't really come out nicely. Am I doing it wrong? [/QUOTE] I usually just use the included compressor in ableton and sidechain to a muted kick drum track. Then adjust the attack and release until it has the womping effect :D This will allow you to bring the levels up on the drums because at the moment they are a bit quiet
If you use FL Studio 9+, there's a great compression/everything-in-one plugin to make something beefy and stuff. It's called Soundgoodizer, take your bass, send it trough that plugin, with "A" selected. Turn it to around 50%, there you go. You should have a great spectrum-filling bass. If you'll add subbass, then lowpass that sound to around 90/100Hz. Voila.
[QUOTE=Cobaltum;33325555]If you use FL Studio 9+, there's a great compression/everything-in-one plugin to make something beefy and stuff. It's called Soundgoodizer, take your bass, send it trough that plugin, with "A" selected. Turn it to around 50%, there you go. You should have a great spectrum-filling bass. If you'll add subbass, then lowpass that sound to around 90/100Hz. Voila.[/QUOTE] What the fuck, that Soundgoodizer truly lives up to its name O.O Just had to say that. Now back to sidechaining!
Soundgoodizer is terrible, learn to EQ and use compression properly on your own and don't use all in one plugins like that. You'll get way better results if you actually know what you are doing. [url]http://dnbscene.com/article/88-thinking-inside-the-box-a-complete-eq-tutorial[/url] [url]http://dnbscene.com/article/1474-compress-to-impress-a-complete-compression-tutorial[/url]
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;33331480]Soundgoodizer is terrible, learn to EQ and use compression properly on your own and don't use all in one plugins like that. You'll get way better results if you actually know what you are doing. [url]http://dnbscene.com/article/88-thinking-inside-the-box-a-complete-eq-tutorial[/url] [url]http://dnbscene.com/article/1474-compress-to-impress-a-complete-compression-tutorial[/url][/QUOTE] This should have its own thread lol. It's one of those things I really really really wished I had read properly when I started out. The metaphors are very good, the shoebox one is fucking perfect.
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;33331480]Soundgoodizer is terrible, learn to EQ and use compression properly on your own and don't use all in one plugins like that. You'll get way better results if you actually know what you are doing. [url]http://dnbscene.com/article/88-thinking-inside-the-box-a-complete-eq-tutorial[/url] [url]http://dnbscene.com/article/1474-compress-to-impress-a-complete-compression-tutorial[/url][/QUOTE] I realize that it's far away from being the "best" choice, but this time it really helped me figuring out in what sort of ways I want to improve the bassline. Luckily I don't plan on using it alot more, cause as you said, knowing how everything works is the best way. Thanks for the links, too! I'll make sure I read them thoroughly :)
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