• The important steps in the evolution of life: becoming multi-planetary
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There was a Writing Prompt somewhere that went like "Elon Musk is actually an alien stranded on earth who must single-handedly bring us into the space age so that he may go home" It's looking more and more likely.
I want to die in space.
Take us there, Musk. Take us there.
If he says we musk go, then we musk go.
Let's be honest, we've stagnated alot in society. Musk is ambitious, and its that ambition that drives growth in everything (Science, tech, finances, culture, etc), if we don't have a drive to go beyond earth, the we may just slowly slide back and regress into our past.
[QUOTE=pod;46604527]I want to die in space.[/QUOTE] we are all in space technically
My fanciful ambition for the next few decades to join the ranks of millionaires and put my money into space. Fuck collecting old wine, classic cars and mansions, my wallet is going straight to the stars.
[QUOTE=pod;46604527]I want to die in space.[/QUOTE] I don't want to die at all, unexpectedly. Only if and when I decided, wich would probably be some hundreds of years? Or millenia. Imo achieving immortality is a bigger priority than space ex.
[QUOTE=godfatherk;46605866]I don't want to die at all, unexpectedly. Only if and when I decided, wich would probably be some hundreds of years? Or millenia. Imo achieving immortality is a bigger priority than space ex.[/QUOTE] Immorality would be a curse, who the fuck would want to live forever until the end of the universe when there are just blackholes everywhere? Sittin around floatin in complete and utter darkness alone, thinking "yep, this is cool" no
[QUOTE=mr apple;46605884]Immorality would be a curse, who the fuck would want to live forever until the end of the universe when there are just blackholes everywhere? Sittin around floatin in complete and utter darkness alone, thinking "yep, this is cool" no[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure being immortal doesnt make you immune from dying of other causes, assuming he means stopping aging only.
When I die I want my body to be encased in a space sarcophagus and sent in the general direction of Mars via a gigantic space slingshot so I can be the first man on mars while all of those living astronaut shitheads are trying to get there alive and in one piece.
When I die I want to becoem a spacefrog
[QUOTE=godfatherk;46605866]I don't want to die at all, unexpectedly. Only if and when I decided, wich would probably be some hundreds of years? Or millenia. Imo achieving immortality is a bigger priority than space ex.[/QUOTE] Looks like someone didn't watch Jurassic Park.
Can we fix things on earth before bringing our bullshit into space?
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;46604724]My fanciful ambition for the next few decades to join the ranks of millionaires and put my money into space. Fuck collecting old wine, classic cars and mansions, my wallet is going straight to the stars.[/QUOTE] Classic cars+space for me. I want to be the first man to drive a muscle car on Mars.
[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;46604647]Let's be honest, we've stagnated alot in society.[/QUOTE] Spot-on. Society as a whole is still stuck in the same shitty old loop of "Let's delay progress and pick fights with each other over tiny crap for the sake of the egos/profits of the powerful," when things like interplanetary and possibly even interstellar expansion of the species hold far greater potential advancement (and profit) than any of the wars or bickering of today. We've had thousands upon thousands of years to set aside our petty bullshit and work towards unifying as a species, and we've spent almost all of it stabbing each other and cursing each others' innocuous beliefs like pricks. Modern times are definitely looking up compared to most given historical eras in terms of technological/societal progression and diplomacy, but we as a species still can't move past the notion that every single little thing is a battle, which we as individuals must always win over our equally-ruthless human peers. Sadly, a lot of generally-crappy people who also tend to be in positions of power just can't see the amazing potential that the rest of the solar system and the rest of the universe as a whole holds for us. Instead, they cram their completely heads up their asses and assume this planet and its good elements are all we can ever hope to have, so it's best to try and hoard all the good things so that those filthy [I]different people[/I] don't get it instead. Pisses me off to no end, seeing the potential for immortality, interstellar expansion and possibly even meeting alien life/seeding the galaxy with new life, all delayed and wasted because a few egotistical shitbrains with even the most infinitesimal amounts of power are gladly willing to piss it all down the drain for their own benefit. The technology for even something as impossible sounding as becoming a fully-synthetic life form without losing human mental structure and facets is just an amazingly-short distance from our reach, scientifically-speaking, but bickering and warring over nothing can easily delay what should be a few decades away into being centuries off. It's not like we can't figure out how to ditch organics entirely and thereby become nigh-immortal, we just don't have strong enough and reliable enough technology to pull it off properly yet, which we could probably obtain within the century with enough effort. Same goes for a lot of technological and scientific fields today, we have the ideas and/or concepts as well as the people willing and able to make them work, but most of the people in charge of funding, controlling and promoting these technologies just aren't feeling the whole "improving all of humanity" thing. Getting a unified government of the entire species going at some point could help, but it could also make things a hundred times shittier. We still haven't got a working, highly corruption-resistant government system figured out yet, as many contenders such as communism and military dictators have failed or proven insufficient in the modern world, and even supposed solutions like U.S. democracy are ultimately informative-yet-very-flawed failures. How a species-wide government could even work at all, let alone well is beyond my knowledge, but it'd have to be damn good and able to please or at least placate an absurdly-diverse range of cultures and beliefs. At the rate we're going, we've only got two ways to get our shit together and work as a unified species, rather than hundreds of scattered nations. It's either going to take us at minimum a century or two to finally hit unification on our own the slow way, or it'll require us to face down first contact/a species-wide calamity/both before we can unilaterally agree that we're not the only true extinctive threat to our species, and that we have bigger issues than each other. Until we can figure all of this crap out though, people like Musk are the best chance we have of giving scientific progress a kick in the ass. When you get entrepreneurs who fear nothing and look to progress for goals rather than profit margins, in the modern age, you get some actual fucking progress made for once. If you can't fix or dismantle the system, all you can do is pull the right strings to use it for good rather than selfishness.
this argument about society stagnating is completely ridiculous, considering we first visited the moon almost fifty years ago. While yes, we haven't been back, the technological advances we've made in the past century outweigh the technological advances we've made in the past 500. Hell, even to people twenty years ago, the shit we've got currently are the gadgets of the future. We haven't stagnated, and probably never will. The fact that people like Elon Musk exist are proof of this.
elon musk for dictator please
wow you musky bitch you're so advanced how about you make a car that uses 100% clean energy it's 2014 in all of human history we couldn't create energy that doesn't kill the environment in the process, and you wanna go to mars my nigga? please hmu when i can plug my computer into the air
is it just me or the editing in the video felt really weird and chopped up?
[QUOTE=TAU!;46610508]Can we fix things on earth before bringing our bullshit into space?[/QUOTE] That requires resources, and the solar system is filled with them, so we kinda need to start space mining as soon as we can, especially since asteroids are filled with materials that are rare on earth.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;46613945]That requires resources, and the solar system is filled with them, so we kinda need to start space mining as soon as we can, especially since asteroids are filled with materials that are rare on earth.[/QUOTE] ...or we can, you know, allocate resources already present on earth in a more proper and fair fashion. Because we could actually realistically do that. Instead, the thought of just getting up and starting space mining is more realistic? That'd possibly cost many billions, or even trillions of dollars (which many investors likely would not hop onto at the drop of a hat), especially if only a few companies start doing it long before anyone realizes how viable that could be. We could also put more of a focus on remedying already shitty social issues, before spreading it out into space. Who wants to deal with neo-nazis, mass shootings, and corporate greed on an intra- or extrasolar colony? No one.
[QUOTE=TAU!;46610508]Can we fix things on earth before bringing our bullshit into space?[/QUOTE] You are incredibly naive if you think that's ever going to happen.
[QUOTE=The Bizness;46611444]wow you musky bitch you're so advanced how about [b]you make a car that uses 100% clean energy[/b] it's 2014 in all of human history we couldn't create energy that doesn't kill the environment in the process, and you wanna go to mars my nigga? please hmu when i can plug my computer into the air[/QUOTE] you say to the man that started tesla motors please tell me that's the joke and I'm just reading it wrong
[QUOTE=Rastadogg;46614268]You are incredibly naive if you think that's ever going to happen.[/QUOTE] It's even more naive to think that interstellar travel and space mining is going to cure any of our problems. As amazing and historic as that will be, if we don't at least try changing ourselves, then we aren't going to be getting away from our problems anytime soon. [editline]1st December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=The Bizness;46611444]wow you musky bitch you're so advanced how about you make a car that uses 100% clean energy it's 2014 in all of human history we couldn't create energy that doesn't kill the environment in the process, and you wanna go to mars my nigga? please hmu when i can plug my computer into the air[/QUOTE] We'll likely reach that point within the next few years, Musk started Tesla motors and it's reached great heights recently. Chill out.
[QUOTE=Rowtree;46610831]this argument about society stagnating is completely ridiculous, considering we first visited the moon almost fifty years ago. While yes, we haven't been back, the technological advances we've made in the past century outweigh the technological advances we've made in the past 500. Hell, even to people twenty years ago, the shit we've got currently are the gadgets of the future. We haven't stagnated, and probably never will. The fact that people like Elon Musk exist are proof of this.[/QUOTE] In terms of scientific advances, yes we've accelerated blisteringly since the Apollo program and early space race. In terms of societal standpoint, govt. progress and larger views we've stagnated. As TurboSax mentioned, we have wonderful opportunities to expand ourselves as a species and do something for the good of mankind. Coming together as a species, and put aside our petty differences to attain the goal of exploration/colonization/etc will be for the betterment of society everywhere. I.e. This video: [video=youtube;CbIZU8cQWXc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbIZU8cQWXc[/video]
[QUOTE=1STrandomman;46615026]you say to the man that started tesla motors please tell me that's the joke and I'm just reading it wrong[/QUOTE] Tbh a lot of electricity isn't 100% clean, because it comes from burning fossil fuels.
[QUOTE=Merijn;46615928]Tbh a lot of electricity isn't 100% clean, because it comes from burning fossil fuels.[/QUOTE] True, but that just means we need to move towards cleaner electricity in general.
If I had a shitload of money, I'd build a drydock in L2 orbit, and build imperial ships from the WH series.
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