[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcWbpGMzSjc[/media]
Their faces are hilarious, happens at about 1:00 but you can see that the bit was clearly set up to be one side.
MSNBC in general have a lot of salt over Trump, which is why I'm not that surprised by their reactions to an interview with a 'radical' trump supporter was reasonable
Holy shit, the [i]immediate[/i] downplaying of that guy right afterwards was goddamn surreal.
She basically went "Alright, we meant to have a white dude there, sorry about that."
Honestly disgusting, way to accuse someone of being racist, but when a reasonable supporter turns out to be black you have to downplay the whole thing like as if your narrative got shit on.
I bet you Clinton is probably more racist then Trump in reality. She has said some mean ass shit about black youth while Trump says things in a non-politically correct way that is just spun as racist.
[QUOTE=Tudd;49840065]Honestly disgusting, way to accuse someone of being racist, but when a reasonable supporter turns out to be black you have to downplay the whole thing like as if your narrative got shit on.
I bet you Clinton is probably more racist then Trump in reality. She has said some mean ass shit about black youth while Trump says things in a non-politically correct way that is just spun as racist.[/QUOTE]
idk, his latest commercial is saying that all illegals should be kicked out of the country because one of them killed a black teenager. that's pretty fucking racist to basically stretch his point to say all illegals are a danger to the public.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;49840168]idk, his latest commercial is saying that all illegals should be kicked out of the country because one of them killed a black teenager. that's pretty fucking racist to basically stretch his point to say all illegals are a danger to the public.[/QUOTE]
Whether they're a threat or not these people have broken the law and entered the country illegally, they need to go back.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49840178]Whether they're a threat or not these people have broken the law and entered the country illegally, they need to go back.[/QUOTE]
and who is going to take the literal millions of cheap jobs that are basically hinging on their labor? they pay sales taxes and most are so afraid of the law that they avoid any kind of attention.
you can say they can hire citizens, but no one wants to work for $5 or less an hour in complete hell conditions. If you raise the wage to even minimum that would increase the cost of the service and people would be crying even more then than they are now.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49840178]Whether they're a threat or not these people have broken the law and entered the country illegally, they need to go back.[/QUOTE]
Do you even know how hard and expensive legal immigration is?
People are coming over illegally for a reason.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49840178]Whether they're a threat or not these people have broken the law and entered the country illegally, they need to go back.[/QUOTE]
And when the price of fruits and vegetables jump up 35-45%, what will you say then? Who will you blame for that because god knows you won't have the balls to blame your lord and saviour even if he's at fault
"OH GOD DON'T WORRY THE REST OF THEM ARE WHITE PROMISE"
Everytime someone watches this video and laughs they make money, I'm conflicted.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49840178]Whether they're a threat or not these people have broken the law and entered the country illegally, they need to go back.[/QUOTE]
because of hatred propaganda spewed by the right wing this is your only reasoning
i can already hear /pol/ jerking off to this video lol
[QUOTE=codemaster85;49840254]and who is going to take the literal millions of cheap jobs that are basically hinging on their labor? they pay sales taxes and most are so afraid of the law that they avoid any kind of attention.
you can say they can hire citizens, but no one wants to work for $5 or less an hour in complete hell conditions. If you raise the wage to even minimum that would increase the cost of the service and people would be crying even more then than they are now.[/QUOTE]
So exploiting third-world workers and encouraging a race to the bottom for labor wages is the solution?
[QUOTE=codemaster85;49840254]and who is going to take the literal millions of cheap jobs that are basically hinging on their labor? [/QUOTE]
there are enough unemployed citizens in the US that I'm sure would be willing to take up 1 or 2 jobs if they could
[quote]you can say they can hire citizens, but no one wants to work for $5 or less an hour in complete hell conditions. If you raise the wage to even minimum that would increase the cost of the service and people would be crying even more then than they are now.[/QUOTE]
yeah because instead of trying to weed out, fix, or dismantle corrupt systems that thrive on what is essentially slavery, we should subject minorities and immigrants to awful conditions to avoid 'crying'. great plan
Economic reasons aside (because I am not very economically informed), here's my take on illegal immigration:
I just think it's a bit unfair to those who have gone through the correct documentation to enter the country.
Both my parents came here legally with a visa and worked hard for a long time in order to get their green card, yet all these people illegally entering the country don't have to do the same thing?
What is the purpose of calling them illegal if you are not going to enforce the law?
I don't really think illegals taking jobs are a problem at least in my economic class, but the word "illegal" seems pretty meaningless.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;49840254]and who is going to take the literal millions of cheap jobs that are basically hinging on their labor? they pay sales taxes and most are so afraid of the law that they avoid any kind of attention.
you can say they can hire citizens, but no one wants to work for $5 or less an hour in complete hell conditions. If you raise the wage to even minimum that would increase the cost of the service and people would be crying even more then than they are now.[/QUOTE]
How do you expect these illegals to advance, 5$ an hour job will not support them or their families. They will not be able to move on in society, their children cannot go to school. I believe its blasphemous that you believe its a good thing that anyone has to settle for a 5$ an hour job no less one in a hell hole.
In your pursuit of instant *fairness*, you end up causing unending harm... The real solution is one that may take the long run, but will allow the system to change.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49840369]And when the price of fruits and vegetables jump up 35-45%, what will you say then? Who will you blame for that because god knows you won't have the balls to blame your lord and saviour even if he's at fault[/QUOTE]
I'll pay the higher price, why would I get mad at people who are legally working and getting fair pay?
[QUOTE=Tudd;49840065]Honestly disgusting, way to accuse someone of being racist, but when a reasonable supporter turns out to be black you have to downplay the whole thing like as if your narrative got shit on.
I bet you Clinton is probably more racist then Trump in reality. She has said some mean ass shit about black youth while Trump says things in a non-politically correct way that is just spun as racist.[/QUOTE]
What Fantasy Mongo-Bongo land do you live in where Hilary Clinton, who has the vast majority of black support in the United States, is more racist than Donald "Laziness is an inherent trait of blacks" Trump?
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;49840354]Do you even know how hard and expensive legal immigration is?
People are coming over illegally for a reason.[/QUOTE]
honestly the immigration system needs a revamp
and when I say revamp I mean swiping your arm right the fuck over the table, throwing everything off of it into the dump, and resetting the entire thing from there.
[QUOTE=Alice_01;49840883]How do you expect these illegals to advance, 5$ an hour job will not support them or their families. They will not be able to move on in society, their children cannot go to school. I believe its blasphemous that you believe its a good thing that anyone has to settle for a 5$ an hour job no less one in a hell hole.
In your pursuit of instant *fairness*, you end up causing unending harm... The real solution is one that may take the long run, but will allow the system to change.[/QUOTE]
im saying the current system is made around that 5$ an hour job. they already have farmers that offered the same labor to citizens who turned it down. to keep food cheap the labor has to also be cheap. 5$ at a summer job allows them to collect money for their families back south which happens to be less than 5$ a [B]day[/B] begin with. There's a complete reason why labor workers come to the U.S. to begin with.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;49840168]idk, his latest commercial is saying that all illegals should be kicked out of the country because one of them killed a black teenager. that's pretty fucking racist to basically stretch his point to say all illegals are a danger to the public.[/QUOTE]
illegal immigrant is a race now?
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49841006]I'll pay the higher price, why would I get mad at people who are legally working and getting fair pay?[/QUOTE]
I mean that's a nice sentiment in all, but if that puts you into a point where your finances are actually affected, will you feel the same way?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49841545]I mean that's a nice sentiment in all, but if that puts you into a point where your finances are actually affected, will you feel the same way?[/QUOTE]
Well paying more for things will effect me financially, so I fail to see what your point is. Are you saying illegal and unfair payment of labor is okay as long as food is cheap?
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49841584]Well paying more for things will effect me financially, so I fail to see what your point is. Are you saying illegal and unfair payment of labor is okay as long as food is cheap?[/QUOTE]
No. Those illegal immigrants don't make much money but it sustains them. It however, is a situation that needs changing.
it's just not one that you're going to be excited about a few months into when all foods are jumping up in price because no one's picking them anymore because you're not getting an american to do that for sub minimum wage and the companies aren't going to pay anything more than minimum wage in the best of conditions because your nations relied on illegal immigrants for 20+ years now. Relied upon them.
I'm just saying that a conservative candidate who wants to make things more affordable for the middle class is about to ratchet that up to a degree you won't like what so ever, but I understand the point of view in either case.
The transition had to happen eventually, Trumps way of doing it is just terrible though.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49844540]No. Those illegal immigrants don't make much money but it sustains them. It however, is a situation that needs changing.
it's just not one that you're going to be excited about a few months into when all foods are jumping up in price because no one's picking them anymore because you're not getting an american to do that for sub minimum wage and the companies aren't going to pay anything more than minimum wage in the best of conditions because your nations relied on illegal immigrants for 20+ years now. Relied upon them.
I'm just saying that a conservative candidate who wants to make things more affordable for the middle class is about to ratchet that up to a degree you won't like what so ever, but I understand the point of view in either case.
The transition had to happen eventually, Trumps way of doing it is just terrible though.[/QUOTE]
Are you seriously saying it is okay for illegal immigrants to work for less that legal wages and companies to exploit illegal immigrants for the sake of cheap food? If it is how you say "needs changing" as to needs legal wages then A) they need to be legal citizens and B) if they were to get legal wages then it wouldn't make a difference if they were legal or illegal if they are getting at least minimum wage.
Trumps way is going to open jobs for legal citizens(who need jobs) and close loopholes in businesses across the board, to be fair you have to address all business issues not just megacorp .inc.
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;49840354]Do you even know how hard and expensive legal immigration is?
People are coming over illegally for a reason.[/QUOTE]
Do you even know how hard and expensive (TVs, game consoles, car stereos) are?
People are stealing them for a reason.
What's the problem in the video?
The bloke on the right says something to the effect of "David Duke supports Trump"
She mentions a new load of Trump supporters
The banner says "Trump supporters dismiss David Duke controversy"
The audio clip supported that
She then goes on to say something meaningless. Am I missing the point?
[QUOTE=Falstad007;49844961]Do you even know how hard and expensive (TVs, game consoles, car stereos) are?
People are stealing them for a reason.[/QUOTE]
i dont even know where to begin. this is such an inaccurate comparison that it saddens me you actually believe it.
[QUOTE=Trumple;49845081]What's the problem in the video?
The bloke on the right says something to the effect of "David Duke supports Trump"
She mentions a new load of Trump supporters
The banner says "Trump supporters dismiss David Duke controversy"
The audio clip supported that
She then goes on to say something meaningless. Am I missing the point?[/QUOTE]
For what ever reason she is surprised, if not uncomfortable, seeing a black person supporting Trump. At least it ended up looking like that.
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