[quote]Western forces fighting in southern Afghanistan had a problem. Too often, soldiers on patrol passed an older man walking hand-in-hand with a pretty young boy. Their behavior suggested he was not the boy's father. Then, British soldiers found that young Afghan men were actually trying to "touch and fondle them," military investigator AnnaMaria Cardinalli told me. "The soldiers didn't understand."
All of this was so disconcerting that the Defense Department hired Cardinalli, a social scientist, to examine this mystery. Her report, "Pashtun Sexuality," startled not even one Afghan. But Western forces were shocked - and repulsed.
For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.
"Having a boy has become a custom for us," Enayatullah, a 42-year-old in Baghlan province, told a Reuters reporter. "Whoever wants to show off should have a boy."
Baghlan province is in the northeast, but Afghans say pedophilia is most prevalent among Pashtun men in the south. The Pashtun are Afghanistan's most important tribe. For centuries, the nation's leaders have been Pashtun.
President Hamid Karzai is Pashtun, from a village near Kandahar, and he has six brothers. So the natural question arises: Has anyone in the Karzai family been bacha baz? Two Afghans with close connections to the Karzai family told me they know that at least one family member and perhaps two were bacha baz. Afraid of retribution, both declined to be identified and would not be more specific for publication.
As for Karzai, an American who worked in and around his palace in an official capacity for many months told me that homosexual behavior "was rampant" among "soldiers and guys on the security detail. They talked about boys all the time."
He added, "I didn't see Karzai with anyone. He was in his palace most of the time." He, too, declined to be identified.
In Kandahar, population about 500,000, and other towns, dance parties are a popular, often weekly, pastime. Young boys dress up as girls, wearing makeup and bells on their feet, and dance for a dozen or more leering middle-aged men who throw money at them and then take them home. A recent State Department report called "dancing boys" a "widespread, culturally sanctioned form of male rape."
So, why are American and NATO forces fighting and dying to defend tens of thousands of proud pedophiles, certainly more per capita than any other place on Earth? And how did Afghanistan become the pedophilia capital of Asia?
Sociologists and anthropologists say the problem results from perverse interpretation of Islamic law. Women are simply unapproachable. Afghan men cannot talk to an unrelated woman until after proposing marriage. Before then, they can't even look at a woman, except perhaps her feet. Otherwise she is covered, head to ankle.
"How can you fall in love if you can't see her face," 29-year-old Mohammed Daud told reporters. "We can see the boys, so we can tell which are beautiful."
Even after marriage, many men keep their boys, suggesting a loveless life at home. A favored Afghan expression goes: "Women are for children, boys are for pleasure." Fundamentalist imams, exaggerating a biblical passage on menstruation, teach that women are "unclean" and therefore distasteful. One married man even asked Cardinalli's team "how his wife could become pregnant," her report said. When that was explained, he "reacted with disgust" and asked, "How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean?"
That helps explain why women are hidden away - and stoned to death if they are perceived to have misbehaved. Islamic law also forbids homosexuality. But the pedophiles explain that away. It's not homosexuality, they aver, because they aren't in love with their boys.
Addressing the loathsome mistreatment of Afghan women remains a primary goal for coalition governments, as it should be.
But what about the boys, thousands upon thousands of little boys who are victims of serial rape over many years, destroying their lives - and Afghan society.
"There's no issue more horrifying and more deserving of our attention than this," Cardinalli said. "I'm continually haunted by what I saw."
As one boy, in tow of a man he called "my lord," told the Reuters reporter: "Once I grow up, I will be an owner, and I will have my own boys."
Read more: [url]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/28/INF21F2Q9H.DTL[/url][/quote]
Okay, now that's messed up. Just another reason to hate the terrorists.
That's not messed up, it's just a cultural thing.
Also
"Just another reason to hate the terrorists."
Ignorance is bliss.
Nuke them all!!!~~!~!111~!1
[QUOTE=Coffee;25487053]That's not messed up, it's just a cultural thing.[/QUOTE]
And that makes it okay to rape small boys?
"Just another reason to hate the terrorists"- You are incredibly ignorant.
[QUOTE=Violetta;25487105]And that makes it okay to rape small boys?[/QUOTE]
In our country, no.
In their world, yes, let them have their cake.
This is late as fuck by the way.
Already had a fucking enormous thread on this in ITN.
It sounds like it's consented, I doubt the parents of the kids would allow it otherwise. Although it seems very wrong by our western standards, I'm sure there is things they would find shocking in our culture.
[QUOTE=Coffee;25487115]In our country, no.
In their world, yes, let them have their cake.[/QUOTE]
Coffee cake?
But its cool, let them fuck little boys its their culture. Just turn your head and look aside.
[QUOTE=Coffee;25487115]In our country, no.
In their world, yes, let them have their cake.[/QUOTE]
They're abusing people, that goes against human rights.
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[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;25487156]It sounds like it's consented, I doubt the parents of the kids would allow it otherwise. Although it seems very wrong by our western standards, I'm sure there is things they would find shocking in our culture.[/QUOTE]
I doubt they consent to it, that part of the world is full of crap like this, look at India's forced marriages.
Middle eastern culture sure is different. That's for sure.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;25487087]Nuke them all!!!~~!~!111~!1[/QUOTE]
second that.
Terrible thread.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;25488726][b]Coffee cake?[/b]
But its cool, let them fuck little boys its their culture. Just turn your head and look aside.[/QUOTE]
It's actually pretty yum.
This thread is old news, I'm just going to copy bits from the last time it came up.
[QUOTE=OvB;25488807]Middle eastern culture sure is different. That's for sure.[/QUOTE]
I'm assuming the practice they are referring to is "Bacha Bazi" which is more of something in Central Asian states rather than the Middle-East (AFAIK this is non-existent in the Middle-East). For what it's worth the Communist regime in the 1980s outlawed it, and the Taliban also did. Areas where the opposing Northern Alliance controlled allowed the practice to continue. And since the Northern Alliance is now the government of all Afghanistan, it is continuing all over the place.
In reality these things are occurring by warlords of the Northern Alliance who currently make up the forces opposed to the Taliban. Taliban and Al-Qaeda were against these things because it has no place in Islamic law, but rather a remnant left over from the region's pre-Islamic times. It is because the elements of the Northern Alliance who are allowing Bacha Bazi to continue that the Taliban got support in the first place, and are able to do the same today.
It's also worth mentioning that parts of the Taliban was made from teenage boys who saw the impacts of this practice by certain warlords, and banded together to start fighting back against it. The subsequent ban on Bacha Bazi when the Taliban took over was a result of the influence of these young men in the Taliban because they were disgusted by how the previous government didn't do anything to stop it.
[QUOTE=mr apple;25488914]It's actually pretty yum.[/QUOTE]
Stop eating me please.
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