WHEN WE GROW, This is what we can do (Full Documentary)
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There is so many people that doesn't know anything about cannabis, but still they mark it as a dangerous drug that kills. So please, watch, learn, think and talk about it.
[video=youtube;PSKJrgGqx_E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSKJrgGqx_E[/video]
I ate a big chunk of weed chocolate not too long ago.
Suffered a bad panic attack. My first one, too. It was one of the most terrible things I had ever experienced.
Not saying I'm anti weed, or anything. I think it should be legalized.
Just wanted to share, is all.
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;35914438]I ate a big chunk of weed chocolate not too long ago.
Suffered a bad panic attack. My first one, too. It was one of the most terrible things I had ever experienced.
Not saying I'm anti weed, or anything. I think it should be legalized.
Just wanted to share, is all.[/QUOTE]
IMO, you caused it yourself. I've had panic attacks (two) too but it's just up to your thoughts and your emotions.
I mean, if you are nervous and scared of getting caught, those emotions are just getting stronger. If you want to relax and you're calm, you'll be thoughtful and think about things, etc.
It's hard to explain, but if you do it more than once, you'll know what I mean.
People who take absolute stances on any drug are retarded
That goes for both sides, but tbh it's actually more annoying to have to listen to retards who think weed is completely harmless, despite clinical evidence to the contrary.
Before you pop your pro weed rage boner, I support the legalization of weed.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;35915859]People who take absolute stances on any drug are retarded
That goes for both sides, but tbh it's actually more annoying to have to listen to retards who think weed is completely harmless, despite clinical evidence to the contrary.
Before you pop your pro weed rage boner, I support the legalization of weed.[/QUOTE]
Which clinical evidence are you talking about?
Thank, i had not seen this one before.
I think the biggest problem is the confusion surrounding cannabis. I myself am really (too) careful to claim anything when it comes to cannabis, which is weird, because when there's a news article about a new drug for whatever illness i just trust it completely, while it should be the other way around seeing as cannabis has hardly any dangerous side effects versus the many dangerous side effects sythetic drugs have.
[QUOTE=petfe;35914771]IMO, you caused it yourself. I've had panic attacks (two) too but it's just up to your thoughts and your emotions.
I mean, if you are nervous and scared of getting caught, those emotions are just getting stronger. If you want to relax and you're calm, you'll be thoughtful and think about things, etc.
It's hard to explain, but if you do it more than once, you'll know what I mean.[/QUOTE]
I've smoken my fair share of weed. Started when I was 15ish and I'm almost 20.
I was in no way nervous or scared of getting caught.
It was just a bad trip.
Very good watch!
[QUOTE=petfe;35916426]Which clinical evidence are you talking about?[/QUOTE]
Cannabis has been shown to decrease short term memory through the cannabinoid receptors of the glial cells in the brain, as opposed to the neurons themselves. In a few preliminary studies with THC, neurons became somewhat unsynchronized in their 'firing' causing some side effects on their own. There is also a significant increase in lung cancer occurrence when smoking cannabis, but this is expected when you smoke ANYTHING, it isn't exclusive to Cannabis.
This is just off the top of my head, but I've read the papers that stated these effects before.
Here are just some quick sources though:
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22385967[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21050680[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22526684[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22389086[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22348124[/URL]
Inconclusive but still negative evidence:
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21859273[/URL]
But I still support its legalization (to use a general term).
There is also the risk of the unlegalized crap being adulterated by tons of the worst shit imaginable. You might say "Hey, but I'm not stupid and my dealer is so and so and I trust them" but it happens all the time. Glass, sand, lead, plastic, polishes and oils, other drugs, all kinds of shit.
[QUOTE=Collin665;35922151]Cannabis has been shown to decrease short term memory through the cannabinoid receptors of the glial cells in the brain, as opposed to the neurons themselves. In a few preliminary studies with THC, neurons became somewhat unsynchronized in their 'firing' causing some side effects on their own. There is also a significant increase in lung cancer occurrence when smoking cannabis, but this is expected when you smoke ANYTHING, it isn't exclusive to Cannabis.
This is just off the top of my head, but I've read the papers that stated these effects before.
Here are just some quick sources though:
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22385967[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21050680[/URL]
But I still support its legalization (to use a general term).
There is also the risk of the unlegalized crap being adulterated by tons of the worst shit imaginable. You might say "Hey, but I'm not stupid and my dealer is so and so and I trust them" but it happens all the time. Glass, sand, lead, plastic, polishes and oils, other drugs, all kinds of shit.[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;6jO_ncXj7RE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jO_ncXj7RE[/video]
[QUOTE=Soleeedus;35922170][video=youtube;6jO_ncXj7RE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jO_ncXj7RE[/video][/QUOTE]
I'll watch your almost-two hour video tomorrow, but before I even watch it.
A. Your video is probably going to be biased from the start. If you're trying to say that my sources are biased (peer reviewed research journals), then you'll have to admit that your source is going to be at least equally as biased.
B. Studies != rhetoric on a popular video
[QUOTE=Collin665;35922151]Cannabis has been shown to decrease short term memory through the cannabinoid receptors of the glial cells in the brain, as opposed to the neurons themselves. In a few preliminary studies with THC, neurons became somewhat unsynchronized in their 'firing' causing some side effects on their own. There is also a significant increase in lung cancer occurrence when smoking cannabis, but this is expected when you smoke ANYTHING, it isn't exclusive to Cannabis.
This is just off the top of my head, but I've read the papers that stated these effects before.
Here are just some quick sources though:
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22385967[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21050680[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22526684[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22389086[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22348124[/URL]
Inconclusive but still negative evidence:
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21859273[/URL]
But I still support its legalization (to use a general term).
There is also the risk of the unlegalized crap being adulterated by tons of the worst shit imaginable. You might say "Hey, but I'm not stupid and my dealer is so and so and I trust them" but it happens all the time. Glass, sand, lead, plastic, polishes and oils, other drugs, all kinds of shit.[/QUOTE]
I don't know if have you seen this but here you go.
[video=youtube;edm7Z4fk7qU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edm7Z4fk7qU&list=FLQhjCPJzZyPP4Tc_bwQi3KA&index=5&feature=plpp_video[/video]
where's the sources?
[QUOTE=petfe;35926004]I don't know if have you seen this but here you go.
[video=youtube;edm7Z4fk7qU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edm7Z4fk7qU&list=FLQhjCPJzZyPP4Tc_bwQi3KA&index=5&feature=plpp_video[/video][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Soleeedus;35922170][video=youtube;6jO_ncXj7RE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jO_ncXj7RE[/video][/QUOTE]
I think he's looking for medical journals or someone to give a factually-supported explanation rather then someone dumping a pro-marijuana video to "let it explain for them."
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;35915859]People who take absolute stances on any drug are retarded
That goes for both sides, but tbh it's actually more annoying to have to listen to retards who think weed is completely harmless, despite clinical evidence to the contrary.
Before you pop your pro weed rage boner, I support the legalization of weed.[/QUOTE]
For some reason I have a feeling your avatar fits.
If you're looking for studies/statistics: [url]http://blog.norml.org/2011/10/29/white-house-response-to-normls-we-the-people-marijuana-legalization-petition/[/url]
[QUOTE=petfe;35926004]I don't know if have you seen this but here you go.
[video=youtube;edm7Z4fk7qU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edm7Z4fk7qU&list=FLQhjCPJzZyPP4Tc_bwQi3KA&index=5&feature=plpp_video[/video][/QUOTE]
Oh boy I love people like you.
You're the exact kind of person who screams their head off about anti-marijuana propaganda videos that are full of misinformation, but when someone challenges your stance on marijuana being "just a harmless plant bro..." you respond with pro-marijuana propaganda videos which are just as full of misinformation and bias.
See the studies posted above? Those are peer reviewed research journals. They are about the least biased source of information you can get. Researchers don't care about opinions or winning petty arguments, they just care about finding results and documenting them, good or bad.
You are just as naive as the people who think marijuana will ruin your life if you think a powerful psychoactive drug is going to be free of negative effects from consistent use.
You need to stop the absolute propaganda bullshit, and start encouraging people to take a more open minded, educated view of substances/drugs in general and understand the whole spectrum of effects if you want to make progress.
I endorse the legalization of anabolic androgenic steroids for personal use, and I'm constantly trying to tell people that the side effects are greatly misunderstood and overblown by the media, but that doesn't mean I try to convince myself it's absolutely free of any negative side effects, or tell others that. The impaired blood lipid profile makes continual steroid use for a long period a worrying factor for example, but this can be avoided by intermittent use with long recovery periods.
I like to get high.
That is all
The way I see it there is no good absolute stance.
All I know is I fucking hate the smell.
I really really like the smell :v
[QUOTE=b;35935980]Oh boy I love people like you.
You're the exact kind of person who screams their head off about anti-marijuana propaganda videos that are full of misinformation, but when someone challenges your stance on marijuana being "just a harmless plant bro..." you respond with pro-marijuana propaganda videos which are just as full of misinformation and bias.
See the studies posted above? Those are peer reviewed research journals. They are about the least biased source of information you can get. Researchers don't care about opinions or winning petty arguments, they just care about finding results and documenting them, good or bad.
You are just as naive as the people who think marijuana will ruin your life if you think a powerful psychoactive drug is going to be free of negative effects from consistent use.
You need to stop the absolute propaganda bullshit, and start encouraging people to take a more open minded, educated view of substances/drugs in general and understand the whole spectrum of effects if you want to make progress.
I endorse the legalization of anabolic androgenic steroids for personal use, and I'm constantly trying to tell people that the side effects are greatly misunderstood and overblown by the media, but that doesn't mean I try to convince myself it's absolutely free of any negative side effects, or tell others that. The impaired blood lipid profile makes continual steroid use for a long period a worrying factor for example, but this can be avoided by intermittent use with long recovery periods.[/QUOTE]
It's pretty annoying when anyone does that with anything, they watch some silly youtube video and think they're an expert on the subject even though the video clearly only supports one side of the argument.
I really wish people would do independent research, look through medical journals and peer reviewed studies but it's seems the propaganda nature of these documentaries has it's sort of entertainment appeal in it's flashy rhetoric. Or at least look-up the bloody quotes, I can't tell you how out-of-context quotes usually are in these kind of videos, if you look up the quotes on for instance Loose Change (silly 9/11 conspiracy video) they're often absolutely irrelevant or by somebody with zero credentials on the subject at hand.
But yeah love you JaegerMonster for speaking the truth.
Lemme just use my mac to make a documentary with imovie (takes lots of skill) and read stuff off of Wikipedia for you
oh god who gives a fuck if pot has a few negative side effects.
we shouldn't even be discussing the effects in terms of legality. it makes me feel fucking good and i'll put whatever the fuck i want into my own body.
[QUOTE=Collin665;35922151]
This is just off the top of my head, but I've read the papers that stated these effects before.
Here are just some quick sources though:
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22385967[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21050680[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22526684[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22389086[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22348124[/URL]
Inconclusive but still negative evidence:
[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21859273[/URL]
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This is exactly why it's so hard for people to understand the effects of cannabis.
There is no good reliable source for information about the effects of cannabis. There are tons of studies published online, but they are hard to find, backed with money or simply bad studies.
I am very sceptical about anything a government or pharmaceutical company publishes online about cannabis for the simple reason that they tend to lie in order to make people do the things they want. They lie, invent fake facts or shape the studies in such a way that the result seems significant to the general public while it's some trivial fact. An example would be that infamous studie that concluded that monkies died from inhaling cannabis smoke. They just didn't mention they suffocated the monkeys.
Weed is not a miracle drug. >.>
[QUOTE=Polyethylene;35945930]Weed is not a miracle drug. >.>[/QUOTE]
i'd say it is.
minimal negative effects, an overwhelming list of ailments it can alleviate and sometimes cure, an awesome euphoria, makes food better, games better, nature better, sex better, etc. etc., and can be a great social tool to meet new people or just expand on friendships with preexisting ones.
the odds of such a fucking great plant existing are literally astronomical. the big bang happened, earth was made, and all the perfect conditions led up to this plant existing and being readily available to most parts of the world. I like to think of pot (and drugs in general) as the universe's way of saying "here you go, have a blast"
If i had the chance i'd try it, got to have an open mind for these kinda things. :smile:
Go with the flow.
The law isn't going to change anytime soon.
Nor are the ideas of people who are anti-marijuana.
[QUOTE=sami-pso;35945715]This is exactly why it's so hard for people to understand the effects of cannabis.
There is no good reliable source for information about the effects of cannabis. There are tons of studies published online, but they are hard to find, backed with money or simply bad studies.
I am very sceptical about anything a government or pharmaceutical company publishes online about cannabis for the simple reason that they tend to lie in order to make people do the things they want. They lie, invent fake facts or shape the studies in such a way that the result seems significant to the general public while it's some trivial fact. An example would be that infamous studie that concluded that monkies died from inhaling cannabis smoke. They just didn't mention they suffocated the monkeys.[/QUOTE]
did you actually see this data in it's raw form, or are you just purporting something you heard from another stoner?
Chances are the original study, if infact it does exist, did document that factor and someone in the government read the study and then misinterpreted what they read (as so many people do) and started saying "oh look weed kills monkeys".
Besides it's 2012, and it's the age of information. We have huge databases of peer reviewed journals like above. Research controls and methodology is vastly improved.
The studies above are not government or pharma rep published, so don't pull that bullshit argument please. They are peer reviewed medical journals.
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