• Obama is trying to make the US more socialist
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[quote]What was it everybody used to say about the United States? Look at what’s happening over there and you will see our future. Whatever Americans are doing now, we will be catching up with them in another 10 years or so. In popular culture or political rhetoric, America led the fashion and we tagged along behind. Well, so much for that. Barack Obama is now putting the United States squarely a decade behind Britain. Listening to the President’s State of the Union message last week was like a surreal visit to our own recent past: there were, almost word for word, all those interminable Gordon Brown Budgets that preached “fairness” while listing endless new ways in which central government would intervene in every form of economic activity. Later, in a television interview, Mr Obama described his programme of using higher taxes on the wealthy to bankroll new government spending as “a recipe for a fair, sound approach to deficit reduction and rebuilding this country”. To which we who come from the future can only shout, “No‑o-o, go back! Don’t come down this road!” As we try desperately to extricate ourselves from the consequences of that philosophy, which sounds so eminently reasonable (“giving everybody a fair share”, the President called it), we could tell America a thing or two – if it would only listen. Human beings are so much more complicated than this childlike conception of fairness assumes. When government takes away an ever larger proportion of the wealth which entrepreneurial activity creates and attempts to distribute it “fairly” (that is to say, evenly) throughout society in the form of welfare programmes and public spending projects, the effects are much, much more complex and perverse than a simple financial equation would suggest. It is probably obvious that the people from whom the wealth is taken will become less willing to incur the risks that entrepreneurial investment involves – and so will produce less wealth, and thus less tax revenue. But more surprising, perhaps, are the damaging changes that take place in the beneficiaries of this “fairness” and the permanent effect this has on the balance of power between government and the people. [/quote] [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/9045587/Barack-Obama-is-trying-to-make-the-US-a-more-socialist-state.html[/url]
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Because I'm sure the Republican candidates can do so much better.
We have to start realizing we aren't the only major country in the world and that we dont rule the world. But then again, AMURICAH!
[QUOTE=Judas;34439096][img]http://i.imgur.com/WkkEo.png[/img][/QUOTE] No. Just no. This ceased to be funny when it was plastered all over the first page of SN. Stop posting it in every thread.
Also people should stop throwing the word Socialism around and applying to places it doesn't belong
In other news 95% of Americans unsure what socialism really is. More at 11!
[QUOTE=Oman;34439145]Also people should stop throwing the word Socialism around and applying to places it doesn't belong[/QUOTE] It's probably one of the most common words used by right wing political fear-mongers. It's really annoying because half of them don't even understand what socialism is.
[QUOTE=Oman;34439126]Because I'm sure the Republican candidates can do so much better.[/QUOTE] Bashing conservatives doesn't make you cool and it certainly doesn't help your argument in any way.
[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;34439210]Bashing conservatives doesn't make you cool and it certainly doesn't help your argument in any way.[/QUOTE] I have to say, I'm getting really tired of seeing thread after thread of these anti-Conservative articles.
Really, so the writer of this article claims that European countries are having issues because their taxes are too high? That's nonsense.
I didn't know that Fox News had a European division.
I'm confused. She's British, but very obviously believes in American supremacy. and higher taxes will stop the rich from trying to be richer? That doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34439275]Really, so the writer of this article claims that European countries are having issues because their taxes are too high? That's nonsense.[/QUOTE] we're getting so much things for free that we are dying.
[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;34439334]I'm confused. She's British, but very obviously believes in American supremacy. and higher taxes will stop the rich from trying to be richer? That doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE] She's saying that if the government keeps taking more money from big businesses then big businesses will be less willing to take risks, and therefore won't make as much money.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;34439349]we're getting so much things for free that we are dying.[/QUOTE] I can start charging for the free things if that helps at all.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;34439349]we're getting so much things for free that we are dying.[/QUOTE] I know if I could afford my healthcare, I too would be dying. [editline]28th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;34439358]She's saying that if the government keeps taking more money from big businesses then big businesses will be less willing to take risks, and therefore won't make as much money.[/QUOTE] Implying that taxes are equatable to 'the government taking money from big business' is asinine.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34439370]I know if I could afford my healthcare, I too would be dying. [editline]28th January 2012[/editline] Implying that taxes are equatable to 'the government taking money from big business' is asinine.[/QUOTE] Its because OBAMA is TAKING the GOD out of AMURICA!
[QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;34439358]She's saying that if the government keeps taking more money from big businesses then big businesses will be less willing to take risks, and therefore won't make as much money.[/QUOTE] yeah, since big businesses take so many risks.
What's wrong with socialism?
[QUOTE=ManningQB18;34439385]Its because OBAMA is TAKING the GOD out of AMURICA![/QUOTE] It's funny because the letters in "god" are nowhere to be found in "America". GASP AMERICA IS GODLESS NATION ABANDON ALL HOPE
So who cares socialism isn't even bad
[QUOTE=facepuke;34439414]What's wrong with socialism?[/QUOTE] Most people associate that word with Nazi which leads to it being used like a bad thing.
[QUOTE=7DeadlySyns;34439187]It's probably one of the most common words used by right wing political fear-mongers. It's really annoying because half of them don't even understand what socialism is.[/QUOTE] To be fair, your statement is one of the most common used by people that barely know what socialism is. [editline]28th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Boba_Fett;34439262]I have to say, I'm getting really tired of seeing thread after thread of these anti-Conservative articles.[/QUOTE] Well, Facepunch itself is largely young and liberal, so I can see why people like to bash conservatives here. People tend to ignore the dumb things liberals and progressives do.
[QUOTE=Walrus.;34439512]Most people associate that word with Nazi which leads to it being used like a bad thing.[/QUOTE]... No, they associate "socialism" with "I don't have the right to do anything." Socialism, in the minds of many people, is a no-fun zone.
[QUOTE=Falstad007;34439526]Well, Facepunch itself is largely young and liberal, so I can see why people like to bash conservatives here. People tend to ignore the dumb things liberals and progressives do.[/QUOTE] Then post news threads about these dumb things liberals and progressives do.
[QUOTE=1239the;34439660]Then post news threads about these dumb things liberals and progressives do.[/QUOTE] We already posted about the Greece bailout.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;34439262]I have to say, I'm getting really tired of seeing thread after thread of these anti-Conservative articles.[/QUOTE] The only reason there have been so many is because lately conservative politicians have been acting like a bunch of fucking idiots.
[QUOTE=danielplazzy;34439504]So who cares socialism isn't even bad[/QUOTE] Because people can't distinguish the difference between socialism and communism.
I'm okay with that title. :v:
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