• French National Front party expels founder Jean-Marie Le Pen after he belittled the significance of
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[quote]Jean-Marie Le Pen has been expelled from the National Front party he founded after complaints about comments he made that belittled the significance of the Holocaust. Le Pen has for years been in conflict with his daughter Marine, who took over the leadership of the party from him in 2011 and had tried to steer it away from its overtly racist and anti-Semitic policies. The party's executive committee questioned the 87-year-old in the French city of Nanterre on Thursday for three hours and voted to exclude him, pushing him out of a party he led for close to four decades. Le Pen immediately announced his intention to appeal against the decision in court. "There is indignation, there is sadness, it's always trying when one has the feeling of not having made any mistake, of having expressed one's opinion as a politician," he told the iTele television network. In April, the elder Le Pen rehashed familiar comments about gas chambers being a "detail" of history and said France should get along with Russia to save the "white world". Marine openly split with her father, saying he was committing "political suicide," and later suspended him from the party.[/quote] [url]http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/french-party-expels-founder-jean-marie-le-pen-150820201033146.html[/url]
Good.
Good riddance. He's such a horrible, delusional and overly racist person. He needs to fuck off from politics. [editline]21 august 2015[/editline] Actually, the whole party should fuck off.
Where the fuck does a fascist party in France find it's funding?
[Quote]France should get along with Russia to save the "white world".[/quote] I've noticed a lot of nationalists and even American conservatives say stuff like this
[QUOTE=Conscript;48510807]I've noticed a lot of nationalists and even American conservatives say stuff like this[/QUOTE] Yeah, but American conservatives are also usually racist fascists.
So he fight for Vichy? [QUOTE]Marine openly split with her father, saying he was committing "political suicide," and later suspended him from the party.[/QUOTE] Well not sure if thats a best reason to say but sure. [editline]21st August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Conscript;48510807]I've noticed a lot of nationalists and even American conservatives say stuff like this[/QUOTE] American Eugenics programs did arguably inspire the Nazi's to some extent.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48510850]So he fight for Vichy? Well not sure if thats a best reason to say but sure. [editline]21st August 2015[/editline] American Eugenics programs did arguably inspire the Nazi's to some extent.[/QUOTE] Hell, a lot of people here idolized the Nazis until we found out exactly what they were doing. And most people never cared about the concentration camps or the gas chambers, only that they were bombing our allies and being imperialistic. Jews were pretty much hated everywhere in the early 20th century.
[QUOTE=woolio1;48510881]Hell, a lot of people here idolized the Nazis until we found out exactly what they were doing. And most people never cared about the concentration camps or the gas chambers, only that they were bombing our allies and being imperialistic. Jews were pretty much hated everywhere in the early 20th century.[/QUOTE] Well it wasn't really known about the extent and severity of those camps until we liberated them during WWII, right? Or were they more publicly known and just considered propaganda till witnessed for the first time?
Don't be fooled: The National Front with Marine is just a softer version of the Nazi-Vichy sympathizer party that Jean-Marie founded. Marine's niece and current MP, Marion, has the middle name Marechal (as in Marechal motherfucking Petain of the Vichy regime) for christs sake. Anyone who votes for this party is not only stupid but morally bankrupt. They are a thousand times worse than UKIP and closer to The Golden Dawn than any other Eurosceptic anti-immigrant party.
[QUOTE=person11;48510927]Don't be fooled: The National Front with Marine is just a softer version of the Nazi-Vichy sympathizer party that Jean-Marie founded. Marine's niece and current MP, Marion, has the middle name Marechal (as in Marechal motherfucking Petain of the Vichy regime) for christs sake. Anyone who votes for this party is not only stupid but morally bankrupt. They are a thousand times worse than UKIP and closer to The Golden Dawn than any other Eurosceptic anti-immigrant party.[/QUOTE] Marechal is just French for "marshal", is there any actual connection between Marion's middle name and the Vichy government or is it a common name you're just tacking onto your argument?
[QUOTE=person11;48510927]Don't be fooled: The National Front with Marine is just a softer version of the Nazi-Vichy sympathizer party that Jean-Marie founded. Marine's niece and current MP, Marion, has the middle name Marechal (as in Marechal motherfucking Petain of the Vichy regime) for christs sake. Anyone who votes for this party is not only stupid but morally bankrupt. They are a thousand times worse than UKIP and closer to The Golden Dawn than any other Eurosceptic anti-immigrant party.[/QUOTE] Maréchal isn't her middle name (who would name anyone that, let alone a girl?), it's her last name. She's the daughter of Yann Le Pen and Simon Maréchal.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48510850]So he fight for Vichy? Well not sure if thats a best reason to say but sure. [editline]21st August 2015[/editline] American Eugenics programs did arguably inspire the Nazi's to some extent.[/QUOTE] Specifically, the California, Mississippi, and Virginia Eugenics Programs inspired the Nazi ones, and IIRC, had a few American scientists working on them
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;48510889]Well it wasn't really known about the extent and severity of those camps until we liberated them during WWII, right?[/QUOTE] Pretty much. Some resistance groups did get photos and info out about atrocities (like [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witold_Pilecki"]Witlod Pilecki[/URL]), but it wasn't until the camp's were liberated people saw how bad it really was. During the war, the US was more hell bent on defeating Japan (cuz of Pearl Harbor). Germany just happened to be allied with Japan.
[QUOTE=person11;48510927]Don't be fooled: The National Front with Marine is just a softer version of the Nazi-Vichy sympathizer party that Jean-Marie founded. Marine's niece and current MP, Marion, has the middle name Marechal (as in Marechal motherfucking Petain of the Vichy regime) for christs sake. Anyone who votes for this party is not only stupid but morally bankrupt. They are a thousand times worse than UKIP and closer to The Golden Dawn than any other Eurosceptic anti-immigrant party.[/QUOTE] sorry but that honour goes to Hungary's Jobbik
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;48511686]sorry but that honour goes to Hungary's Jobbik[/QUOTE] I wouldn't compare a party trying to gain votes with a party which is actually in power.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;48511181]Maréchal isn't her middle name (who would name anyone that, let alone a girl?), it's her last name. She's the daughter of Yann Le Pen and Simon Maréchal.[/QUOTE] Sorry, my mistake. I was given bad information. The Le Pen family still suck and are Petain supporters. [editline]21st August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=FlashMarsh;48511686]sorry but that honour goes to Hungary's Jobbik[/QUOTE] True. As a French Hungarian Jew it is a depressing competition: "which country will take my citizenship first?" [editline]21st August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48511118]Marechal is just French for "marshal", is there any actual connection between Marion's middle name and the Vichy government or is it a common name you're just tacking onto your argument?[/QUOTE] I turned out to be wrong as Kjunas pointed out, but it's an unofficial thing for lots of French people not to use that as a name (unless it is your family name) since Petain ruined it.
[QUOTE=person11;48511735]I turned out to be wrong as Kjunas pointed out, but it's an unofficial thing for lots of French people not to use that as a name (unless it is your family name) since Petain ruined it.[/QUOTE] I don't think that's because of Pétain, it's just that Maréchal isn't really a given name. According to Wikipedia there was a Canadian historian called Maréchal Nantel but besides him I've never heard of anyone with Maréchal as a first name.
Maréchal is a real first name, it's just that it is really old and everyone here finds it ugly, that's why it is given rarely. And Maréchal isn't her middle or last name, it's part if her first name. Marion-Maréchal is her full first name while LePen is the last name.
The Front-National is useless, like any far-right political group. Le Pen is also useless.
[QUOTE]of having expressed one's opinion as a politician[/QUOTE] Wow it's like SH. "wow fucking mods why u ban me its just my opinions"
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