• Tenn. Senator introduces bill making following Sharia law and by extension Islam a felony
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[quote]A proposed new state law would make following the Islamic legal code known as Shariah law a felony, punishable by 15 years in jail. State Senator Bill Ketron, R-Murfreesboro, introduced the bill, known as Senate Bill 1028, last week. A House version of the bill, House Bill 1353, was introduced by House Rep. Judd Matheny, R-Tullahoma. The bill claims that Shariah law is a danger to homeland security. “The threat from Shariah-based jihad and terrorism presents a real and present danger to the lawful governance of this state and to the peaceful enjoyment of citizenship by the residents of this state,” the bill reads. The bill exempts any peaceful practice of Islam. But it also claims that any adherence to Shariah law – which includes religious practices like feet-washing and prayers – is treasonous. It would require the state attorney general to investigate Shariah-compliant groups. The Attorney General’s Office had no comment on the bill. It's too soon to say how far the bill will progress. Ketron and Matheny filed the measure on Thursday, the deadline for bill introductions, and it has not yet been assigned a date for a hearing. The legislation would have to clear legislative committees and win the support of both chambers and the governor before becoming law. As leaders in the legislature, Ketron and Matheny would be well-placed to shepherd the measure through the General Assembly, but both have introduced an extensive slate of other bills. Ketron, the Senate Republican Caucus chairman, is sponsoring 152 bills this year, including measures that would allow the sale of wine in grocery stores, require giving drivers' license exams in English and expand immigration status checks by state and local police. Matheny, the House speaker pro tempore, is backing 36 bills, including ones dealing with firearms, health care and workers' compensation. A dozen other states are also considering anti-Shariah law bills. Most would ban courts from citing Shariah law. Oklahoma voters approved a referendum in November that banned Oklahoma courts from using Shariah law in their rulings. A federal judge blocked the Oklahoma law from being implemented, pending a federal lawsuit claiming the law is unconstitutional. (Page 2 of 2) Tennessee’s law goes further by proposing criminal penalties for following Shariah. The law resembles proposals from an anti-Islam group called the Society of Americans for National Existence, which advocates banning Shariah nationwide. Rebecca Bynum, editor of the New English Review, a Nashville-based website that is critical of Islam, supports the bill. “I applaud Senator Ketron for his effort to protect the citizens of Tennessee from the real and present danger presented by Shari’a and for the deep knowledge and thoughtful consideration that produced this bill,” she wrote in an email. “Even if this bill does not pass, it will have done our citizens a great service by provoking informed discussion of this issue.” Charles Haynes, a senior scholar with the First Amendment Center, disagrees. He said the law is based on a complete misunderstanding of Shariah law. He described it as a set of voluntary religious rules, similar to Catholic canon law or Jewish religious law. The bill is wrongheaded, he said. “It’s complete nonsense,” he said. The bill is also unnecessary, said Haynes. He said that people of all faiths have to follow secular law. “Civil law and the Constitution of the United State trumps religious law,” he said. “The government can’t label religious laws as wrong or treasonous or evil. The government may not take sides in religion. It may not say what is a good religion or a bad religion.”[/quote] There seems to be a second page but I can't access it: [url]http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110222/NEWS02/110222081[/url] Even for a bigoted and insane law this is way out there. It's like these people don't even consider the ramifications of what they propose, though it's probably worse if they did. The fact this is being proposed by the chairman of the caucus is pretty terrible too. And lol @ the drivers exams in english law, that's just blatant ethnocentrism.
it will never pass
[h2]2011: The year of retarded bills.[/h2]
Republican introducing a prejudiced and unconstitutional bill, definitely didn't see this coming
Isn't this a good bill? Or not, I mis-understood it.
I still get that it's stupid and offensive but [quote]The bill exempts any peaceful practice of Islam. But it also claims that any adherence to Shariah law – which includes religious practices like feet-washing and prayers – is treasonous.[/quote] Contradiction?
[QUOTE=The Pretender;28312161]Isn't this a good bill?[/QUOTE] No because Sharia law is a integral part to the practice of any form of Islam and banning it like this is grossly unconstitutional
We should pass a bill, preventing Republicans from having a say in anything. From politics to education, NOTHING. They have proved time and time again, that they are retarded.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;28312186]No because Sharia law is a integral part to the practice of any form of Islam and banning it like this is grossly unconstitutional[/QUOTE] Oh I see, I thought it was a legal system.
To the people defending Sharia: Look at Iran, Iraq, SA, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and every country north of SA. South of SA does not count as they enforce Sharia civilly (Or not at all) rather than with an iron fist/executions like SA and to the north. Then tell me your thoughts.
[QUOTE=certified;28312355]To the people defending Sharia: Look at Iran, Iraq, SA, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and every country north of SA. South of SA does not count as they enforce Sharia civilly (Or not at all) rather than with an iron fist/executions like SA and to the north. Then tell me your thoughts.[/QUOTE] I think enforcing it is ridiculous, practicing it is completely different.
[QUOTE=certified;28312355]To the people defending Sharia: Look at Iran, Iraq, SA, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and every country north of SA. South of SA does not count as they enforce Sharia civilly (Or not at all) rather than with an iron fist/executions like SA and to the north. Then tell me your thoughts.[/QUOTE] Hey shitfuck, learn something about it first: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_law[/url] You're talking about taking Sharia law and enforcing it on all people through a fundamentalist interpretation. This is Sharia as in practicing many basic parts of Islam like fasting, pilgrimage, prayer, and other such things.
[QUOTE=certified;28312355]To the people defending Sharia: Look at Iran, Iraq, SA, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and every country north of SA. South of SA does not count as they enforce Sharia civilly (Or not at all) rather than with an iron fist/executions like SA and to the north. Then tell me your thoughts.[/QUOTE] Some states use fundamentalist Sharia politically for oppression therefore it should be banned for private religious worship. What?
yeah i don't think people really know what sharia is and i don't think people even really give a fuck what it is, they just wanna get on the islamophobe voting train
[QUOTE=AaronM202;28312112][h2]2011: The year of retarded bills.[/h2][/QUOTE] 3rd world: so we managed to overthrow some of our terrible leaders, what did you do this year? US: we proposed a bunch of bigoted unconstitutional bills.
[QUOTE=certified;28312355]To the people defending Sharia: Look at Iran, Iraq, SA, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and every country north of SA. South of SA does not count as they enforce Sharia civilly (Or not at all) rather than with an iron fist/executions like SA and to the north. Then tell me your thoughts.[/QUOTE] i dont think "sharia law" means what you think it means. HINT: it's not "scary-sounding foreign rules i don't like".
[QUOTE=Ziron;28312663]i dont think "sharia law" means what you think it means. HINT: it's not "scary-sounding foreign rules i don't like".[/QUOTE] what does it mean explain it
[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;28312679]what does it mean explain it[/QUOTE] it's basic law and justice, along with "what do I do as a Muslim?"-type stuff. the shit you see paraded around on TV as "sharia" is mostly local laws with half-assed Islamic justification, kinda like how evangelical Christians will half-assingly try to justify their political beliefs with a few cherry-picked lines from the Bible.
hey christians, why are you eating shelfish huh? eh you are all meshuga
Sharia Law is fucked though and completely contradictory to our own legal system. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY[/media] Having read the Koran this is a pretty decent summary of the contents and principles. As biased, opinionated and bigoted as it may sound it's pretty much the truth.
Wow, all these recent bills have been pretty ridiculous. Have any of them actually passed?
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;28312824] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY[/media][/QUOTE] oh stop posting that stupid video [QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;28312824]Having read the Koran[/QUOTE] bullshit
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;28312824]Sharia Law is fucked though and completely contradictory to our own legal system. [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/"]View YouTUBE video[/URL] [URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY[/URL] Having read the Koran this is a pretty decent summary of the contents and principles. As biased, opinionated and bigoted as it may sound it's pretty much the truth.[/QUOTE] holy fuck that is a stupid ass video. apparently Islam is some sort of hivemind religion where everyone has the same interpretation of everything. Looks like the 1300+ years of Islamic scholarship (that is still going on RIGHT NOW) that exists to interpret passages and expand on the laws in the qu'ran and if laws should be revised, along with the many, many varying personal opinions muslims have on subjects regarding their faith, are just a myth.
This is a fucking joke, how do people like this even get into politics? I know I'm probably going to start a shitstorm by saying this, but fuck republicans.
Man I have the koran just lying around at my house. Maybe I should read it sometime.
Senator Murfrbrfrsrsr, you are retarded.
This stuff is proposed and rejected countless times per year. Nothing ever come of it.
[QUOTE=Explosions;28313851]This stuff is proposed and rejected countless times per year. Nothing ever come of it.[/QUOTE] Nothing does, no, but it's still ripe for mocking and pointing out. The fact that it's a caucus leader proposing such batshit insane legislation makes it moderately worse than normal, too.
Sharia Law is already unconstitutional, it couldn't get through anyway. I tend to lean left on virtually every issue, and I personally hate the Republican's take on Islam and it's followers, but I do have concerns for things written in the Koran. No it cannot and I will not assume that all Muslims follow Islamic doctrine exactly the same way, there are many Muslim families I know here in the United States who do not disrespect women and are not homophobic.
Won't pass, clearly violates the first amendment.
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