Norway killer Breivik says he only picked victims who had "leftist" look - spared a kid who looked " - Polidicks

[IMG]http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/dM_IZegyBx3jsLgWwHjbNQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zNjM7cT04NTt3PTQ1MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-AE_XE/News/Reuters/2012-04-23T104209Z_1_CBRE83M0TQH00_RTROPTP_2_INTERNATIONAL-US-NORWAY-ATTACKS-TRIAL.JPG[/IMG] [quote]OSLO (Reuters) - The man who killed 77 people last summer to protest at Muslim immigration to Europe said on Monday[B] he believed he could tell the ideology of his prospective massacre victims by looking at them[/B], and tried to spare one who appeared "right-wing". "Certain people look more leftist than others," Anders Behring Breivik said on the sixth day of a trial that has transfixed Norway, explaining how he picked off "Marxists" with his rifle and pistol while passing over a young man he thought looked conservative. "This person ... appeared right-wing, that was his appearance. That's the reason I didn't fire any shots at him," said Breivik, 33, whose sanity or lack of it is a prime issue to be determined in the trial. Breivik has given a detailed account of his car bomb attack at government headquarters in Oslo, which killed eight people, and a follow-up gun massacre at a Labour Party island camp where he killed 69, mostly teenagers, all within a few hours on July 22. Most Norwegians have reacted with contained horror to the content of Breivik's testimony, delivered in a cold, matter-of-fact manner, while there is wide public acceptance of his right as a defendant to give it. Breivik has had almost free rein to issue warnings against immigration and explain how he scoured the Internet for bomb-making recipes while writing a 1,500-page document declaring himself part of a secretive group that is Europe's answer to Al Qaeda - a group the police have said likely does not exist. Breivik has denied criminal guilt, insisting that his victims were "traitors" whose multiculturalist views facilitated what he saw as a de facto Muslim invasion of Europe. SEEMING APOLOGY But on Monday Breivik issued his first seeming apology, to innocent bystanders hurt or killed when his 950-kilogram fertilizer bomb went off in Oslo. More than 200 were injured. "To all of those ... I want to say I am deeply sorry for what happened," he said. "But what happened, happened." He called his acts "a minor barbarity to prevent a larger one", apparently referring to Europe's supposed cultural decline. The 22-year-old he chose not to kill, a Labour Party youth wing activist named Adrian Pracon, has told Reuters: [B]"I remember him pointing the gun at me for quite a long time before he took it down, turned and walked away."[/B] Later in the rampage, which lasted more than an hour, [B]Breivik came upon Pracon again as he played dead, and this time shot the son of Polish immigrants through the shoulder[/B]. [B]In another separate apparent bid to show he has a conscience, Breivik pointed out that he spared the life of a 10-year-old boy whom he had had in his rifle sights on the island.[/B] [B]"I could not understand what such a little boy was doing at a political indoctrination camp," said Breivik, whose victims were as young as 14. [/B] The boy's name has not been released by the authorities but his father, Trond Berntsen, was an off-duty police officer serving as the island's security guard. He was Breivik's first victim, according to the indictment. Ahead of the trial, which is expected to last 10 weeks, one court-appointed team of psychiatrists concluded Breivik was psychotic while a second found him mentally capable. If Breivik is deemed sane, as he hopes to be, he could face a 21-year prison sentence with indefinite extensions for as long as he is considered dangerous. [/quote] [URL]http://news.yahoo.com/norway-killer-picked-victims-had-leftist-look-104209452.html[/URL] How he's able to differentiate ideologies by merely assessing one's appearance is beyond me.

So how does one look right wing?

The more I read about Breivik's trial, the more disgusted I am with him as a human being.

[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;35685248]So how does one look right wing?[/QUOTE] Boring clothes with bland colors, flat hair, perhaps shaved Just like me

This man's mental state is a very interesting case. He seems to believe he is actually making a difference.

The scariest part is not that he did this, but that he is actually completely sane - and by that I mean no mental illnesses or something like that. He has an extremely warped view on things and I am disgusted by his actions, but the fact he is actually sane scares me more than what he actually did.

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;35685338]The scariest part is not that he did this, but that he is actually completely sane - and by that I mean no mental illnesses or something like that. He has an extremely warped view on things and I am disgusted by his actions, but the fact he is actually sane scares me more than what he actually did.[/QUOTE] Uh, I don't think it's very sane to kill 77 people.

can we stop romanticising this guy as "fascinating" now he was a stupid deluded idiot in addition to being a cold blooded killer

This guy sounds like your typical Fox News viewer.

[QUOTE=Xyrec;35685377]Uh, I don't think it's very sane to kill 77 people.[/QUOTE] no, we've been through this. it's perfectly possible to kill people and retain your sanity. if it wasn't, we'd have to classify every soldier in the world who killed someone as insane

[QUOTE=Xyrec;35685377]Uh, I don't think it's very sane to kill 77 people.[/QUOTE] I think he's referring to the fact that the man believes what he did is wholly for the benefit of Norway and Europe as a whole, as opposed to someone that snaps and goes on a rampage for the sake of it.

[QUOTE=Xyrec;35685377]Uh, I don't think it's very sane to kill 77 people.[/QUOTE] He isn't insane either. So he's going away for a loooooong time.

Note to self: when a serial killer enters the room, say how much you disapprove of abortion.

[QUOTE=Xyrec;35685377]Uh, I don't think it's very sane to kill 77 people.[/QUOTE] He's a massively fucked up person but there's no evidence of him actually having a mental illness. It's perfectly possible for sane people to do terrible things.

I am scared of Islamiphobia in Europe. Much more dangerous than any Muslim terrorists.

I was going to post a thread on this but I forgot: Breivik [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17809617]also said[/url] that upon capture he had expected police to execute him and his entire family

So If I had drawn a swastika on my forehead and a hitler moustache he would have spared me?

[QUOTE=person11;35685436]I am scared of Islamiphobia in Europe. Much more dangerous than any Muslim terrorists.[/QUOTE]No it's not. Anyone who kills people for stupid reasons is equally scary.

He's not sane, bullshit... and if anything, he's making it better for the left wing by making a terrible example

[QUOTE=person11;35685436]I am scared of Islamiphobia in Europe. Much more dangerous than any Muslim terrorists.[/QUOTE] the amount of white middle class radicals and 'british nationals' we have now is silly. they interrupt religious festivals held by sikhs, muslims etc and always seem to be cropping up in the news now. its disturbing

[QUOTE=Turnips5;35685402]can we stop romanticising this guy as "fascinating" now he was a stupid deluded idiot in addition to a cold blooded killer[/QUOTE] I'm not going to suppress my curiosity of him just because he's a cold blooded killer. Seeing him as "fascinating" isn't the same thing as romanticising.

[QUOTE=smurfy;35685465]I was going to post a thread on this but I forgot: Breivik [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17809617]also said[/url] that upon capture he had expected police to execute him and his entire family[/QUOTE] Too bad they didn't shoot him.

I've been reading bits of his book and he clearly spent a shit load of research time and money on body armour, only to surrender instantly when the police showed up :v:

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;35685721]Too bad they didn't shoot him.[/QUOTE] in every fucking thread...

[QUOTE=J!NX;35685505]He's not sane, bullshit... and if anything, he's making it better for the left wing by making a terrible example[/QUOTE] Dude killing 70 people is perfectly natural

[QUOTE=smurfy;35685742]I've been reading bits of his book and he clearly spent a shit load of research time and money on body armour, only to surrender instantly when the police showed up :v:[/QUOTE] I don't think dying was his plan, if he had died he wouldn't have the chance he has at the moment to tell the world why he did it.

[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;35685248]So how does one look right wing?[/QUOTE] It's actually really easy, boring white skin, boring clothes, boring hair, looks like they haven't seen bad shit in their life, looks like they came from a middle class or higher family, looks like they don't have any sort of ailment, looks like they are "average" on the social skill level/cool guy factor. They also probably either don't have facial hair, or very little. They also must have normal levels of confidence.

[QUOTE=Jsm;35685792]I don't think dying was his plan, if he had died he wouldn't have the chance he has at the moment to tell the world why he did it.[/QUOTE] Nah he was expecting to die, he said he was extremely surprised he survived since his "calculations" before hand said he had a 5% chance of survival, and he took that into account.

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;35685338]The scariest part is not that he did this, but that he is actually completely sane - and by that I mean no mental illnesses or something like that. He has an extremely warped view on things and I am disgusted by his actions, but the fact he is actually sane scares me more than what he actually did.[/QUOTE] He's brainwashed, obviously. Unhealthy obsession with politics, visited tons of extreme right websites and surrounded himself with people who would tell him the extreme right bullshit he wanted to hear. It's the same as the kids who go to the Taliban training camps and shit to learn how the western society is destroying morality and needs to be stopped, or whatever. Insanity? It depends on whether you count brainwashing as a mental problem.

I really don't think you need to have a mental illness to get indoctrinated and finally brainwashed into an ideology. A small difference however is that Breivink for the most part indoctrinated himself.