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[quote=New York Post]They’re treating it like a national playground.
At the National September 11th Memorial, tourists balance coffee cups and soda bottles on the parapets bearing the names of the dead.
Parents hoist their children to sit on the bronze plaques, while other visitors splash water from the two waterfalls onto their faces to cool themselves on a hot summer day.
On the plaza, tourists break out lunch foods and lie on their backs.
A year after the memorial’s opening, the almost-cheerful atmosphere at what was supposed to be a solemn site has appalled first responders and victims’ families.
Some have compared the $700 million memorial to a “Disney attraction,” down to the weaving lines to get in.
One tourist “spilt coffee all over my son’s name . . . after she arose from sitting on the names,” a relative wrote to Bill Doyle of the Coalition of 9/11 Families.
When first responder Marianne Pizzitola visited, she found people acting “like this was a park or playground.”
“People laughed and took pictures smiling, and so many people leaned on the tablets with all of my friends names engraved in them, holding Starbucks cups, like it was a kitchen table,” Pizzitola, head of the FDNY EMS Retirees Association, wrote in a letter to Memorial President Joe Daniels.
Last week, The Post observed guards circling the two pools and prohibiting visitors from leaning on the ledges or resting their bags against engraved names.
Two guards said the crackdown was new, a directive issued because of the upcoming 9/11 anniversary, to prevent scratches or damage to the monument.
The relaxed atmosphere at the 9/11 Memorial stands in contrast to other national memorials. At the USS Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor, visitors are shown a video explaining the significance of the site before entering. A large sign at the entrance reads: “Please conduct yourself with dignity and respect at all times. Remember this is hallowed ground.”
At the 9/11 Memorial, a list of visitor rules directs them to a Web site for more information about respecting the memorial. One sign on the plaza reminds visitors that the memorial is “a place of remembrance and quiet reflection.”
At least one family member is relieved the site’s mood isn’t morose.
“I have always assumed that as time goes by, people will come there for gentle recreation — walking, sitting in the dappled sunshine, even picnicking — so I am rather surprised that anyone thinks this is not acceptable behavior,” said Kathy Bowden, who lost her brother in the attacks.
Said etiquette expert Jacqueline Whitmore, “When you step upon a memorial site, you should have some respect, keep your voice low, and remember it’s not an amusement park.”[/quote]
I saw people doing parkour at the holocaust memorial in Berlin.
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Did I make a thread about it? No, and you shouldn't have either.
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[QUOTE=Scarabix;37514258]I saw people doing parkour at the holocaust memorial in Berlin.
Did I make a thread about it? No, and you shouldn't have either.[/QUOTE]
i hope someone does a bitchin backflip off of my gravestone
or some crazy as fuck future move, not too fussed
[QUOTE=Scarabix;37514258]I saw people doing parkour at the holocaust memorial in Berlin.
Did I make a thread about it? No, and you shouldn't have either.[/QUOTE]
wow fucking rude dude
people enjoying themselves in america? NOT ON MY WATCH
everyone is now required to be sad and scared of the terrorists when near the 9/11 site.
[QUOTE]One tourist “spilt coffee all over my son’s name . . . after she arose from sitting on the names,” a relative wrote to Bill Doyle of the Coalition of 9/11 Families.[/QUOTE]
Well that's kinda disrespectful
[QUOTE=Bobie;37514265]i hope someone does a bitchin backflip off of my gravestone
or some crazy as fuck future move, not too fussed[/QUOTE]
As long as it's not fucking planking
[QUOTE]Last week, The Post observed guards circling the two pools and prohibiting visitors from leaning on the ledges or resting their bags against engraved names.[/QUOTE]
Recovery is illegal. Remember to keep your asses sore, and never forget.
(please do read my second post in this thread)
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;37514286]people enjoying themselves in america? NOT ON MY WATCH
everyone is now required to be sad and scared of the terrorists when near the 9/11 site.[/QUOTE]
yeah fuck dead peeps imma piss on the Lincoln memorial
#yolo
it's still too new to be fucking around in.
maybe in a few decades it won't be a big deal, but i see where they're coming from.
As apposed to other memorials in this country and other country's that tourists and their snotty kids run around?
I'm not sure what to think. I agree on the fact there's nothing wrong with that:
[QUOTE]“I have always assumed that as time goes by, people will come there for gentle recreation — walking, sitting in the dappled sunshine, even picnicking"[/QUOTE]
But the article makes it sounds like people were really disrespectful so I don't know.
What ever happened to celebrating the dead's lives rather than mourning their deaths?
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;37514286]people enjoying themselves in america? NOT ON MY WATCH
everyone is now required to be sad and scared of the terrorists when near the 9/11 site.[/QUOTE]
Out of all places in the world you have to choose this one sacred memorial site to do stupid things at? People need to have more respect.
The 9/11 memorial is technically a grave site for the few thousand people that were completely vapirized and never found in the collapse. Show some respect you cunts. You don't go around a cemetery leaning on peoples gravestones and having a good time.
[QUOTE=ZF911;37514342]Out of all places in the world you have to choose this one sacred memorial site to do stupid things at? People need to have more respect.[/QUOTE]
It's such a shame that common sense is becoming less and less prevalent within said tourists.
[QUOTE=OvB;37514350]You don't go around a cemetery leaning on peoples gravestones and having a good time.[/QUOTE]
Speak for yourself.
I used to play in one around the corner from me when I was young.
I agree that people should not disrespect those who have died here, but people should not be overprotective of the site either. When "visitors splash water from the two waterfalls onto their faces to cool themselves on a hot summer day", this is not disrespect. Defacing a grave site is disrespect.
From this article, I didn't see anything disrespectful, other than maybe the coffee being spilled on a grave, but this was likely not intentional.
[QUOTE=Scot;37514333]What ever happened to celebrating the dead's lives rather than mourning their deaths?[/QUOTE]
Balancing coffee cups and sitting on plaques dedicated to the dead isn't celebrating anyone's life. Just leave the memorial(any memorial in general) alone, you can act like a moron anywhere else.
[QUOTE=ZF911;37514384]Balancing coffee cups and sitting on plaques dedicated to the dead isn't celebrating anyone's life. Just leave the memorial(any memorial in general) alone, you can act like a moron anywhere else.[/QUOTE]
I really don't see the big deal in resting your cup or sitting on what is essentially a table. Yeah it's a memorial but whoop de fucking do, they aren't hurting anyone.
I don't see people leaning against the Vietnam War Memorial Wall. And the conflict is 50 years ago.
They should treat this site the same.
[QUOTE=OvB;37514350]The 9/11 memorial is technically a grave site for the few thousand people that were completely vapirized and never found in the collapse. Show some respect you cunts. You don't go around a cemetery leaning on peoples gravestones and having a good time.[/QUOTE]
Why go if you're just gonna respect shit? That's boring I gotta milk every second of my life for fun or else I'm not living.
[QUOTE=Scot;37514404]I really don't see the big deal in resting your cup or sitting on what is essentially a table. Yeah it's a memorial but whoop de fucking do, they aren't hurting anyone.[/QUOTE]
It wasn't just resting them on a table, they were balancing it on the corner of the thing for fun.
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[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;37514412]I don't see people leaning against the Vietnam War Memorial Wall. And the conflict is 50 years ago.
They should treat this site the same.[/QUOTE]
When I lived in Myrtle Beach they had a scaled down Vietnam wall set up for a weekend. Most people wouldn't even touch it, if they did it was out of mourning or respect.
[QUOTE=Badunkadunk;37514421]Why go if you're just gonna respect shit? That's boring I gotta milk every second of my life for fun or else I'm not living.[/QUOTE]
Then go somewhere else, not the collective grave of thousands of people. This place is a fancy cemetery, not a park to walk the dog and have a good time.
[QUOTE=ZF911;37514422]It wasn't just resting them on a table, they were balancing it on the corner of the thing for fun.
[editline]2nd September 2012[/editline]
When I lived in Myrtle Beach they had a scaled down Vietnam wall set up for a weekend. Most people wouldn't even touch it, if they did it was out of mourning or respect.[/QUOTE]
If someone balanced a coffee cup on my granddad's grave I would not give the slightest of fucks. He's dead so he certainly doesn't care, why should I?
[QUOTE=Scot;37514472]If someone balanced a coffee cup on my granddad's grave I would not give the slightest of fucks. He's dead so he certainly doesn't care, why should I?[/QUOTE]
implying your opinion of the dead is universal
seriously
I'm not surprised Facepunch is falling for Slow-News-day.
herp derp lets exaggerate some basic bullshit and add an ~emotive~ subject. My gawd someone spilled coffee.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;37514286]people enjoying themselves in america? NOT ON MY WATCH
everyone is now required to be sad and scared of the terrorists when near the 9/11 site.[/QUOTE]
It has nothing to do with being "sad and scared of the terrorists," it's about respecting the innocent people who died there. By all means, bring food and drink to the memorial, enjoy yourself with friends, and let your kids walk around...but always do it with respect. I think the article goes a bit far when it says the memorial should purely be a place of quiet remembrance, but it simultaneously should not be treated as a recreational park.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;37514492]I'm not surprised Facepunch is falling for Slow-News-day.
herp derp lets exaggerate some basic bullshit and add an ~emotive~ subject. My gawd someone spilled coffee.[/QUOTE]
So edgey
[QUOTE=Badunkadunk;37514506]So edgey[/QUOTE]
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fixing children's shoes?
Death penalty.
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