Some 3rd-party Intel CPU coolers are causing damage to Skylake CPUs and/or sockets due to excess pre
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[url]http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/04/intel_skylake_coolers/[/url]
[quote=The Register]Beware if you're fitting third-party coolers to your Intel Skylake processors: it's reported that the chips and their sockets can be damaged by the weight of the heat sinks.
Apparently, the Skylake parts have a thinner substrate than their Broadwell predecessors, and are more likely to bend and break when heavy-duty coolers are fitted on top, it is claimed. This warping, we're told, also messes up the motherboard sockets. Skylake is supposed to be able to take the same weight as previous Intel CPUs – 50 pounds.
Skylake requires a new socket – the LGA 1151 – and therefore a new motherboard if you're upgrading your PC. According to an investigation by German-language blog PC Games Hardware, the processors are being damaged even though third-party cooler makers reckon their hardware meets the design specifications of the Core-family chips and 1151 socket.[/quote]
Always been a fear of mine. Had a near 1lbs cooler on my old Q6600. My new Haswell-E is cool enough to warrant a lightweight air cooler and still get decent overclockability.
[editline]4th December 2015[/editline]
Also when moving downstairs to clean it out the cooler would bounce about, thought the MB would snap at any minute.
Fuck, this is worrying. Should I be worried with my i5-6600K and a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo?
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;49247593]Fuck, this is worrying. Should I be worried with my i5-6600K and a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo?[/QUOTE]
Cooler Master seems like the type that would test for each revision (and possibly get even Intel Confidential-labelled samples too ahead of release), so I wouldn't have any reason to flip out.
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;49247620]Cooler Master seems like the type that would test for each revision (and possibly get even Intel Confidential-labelled samples too ahead of release), so I wouldn't have any reason to flip out.[/QUOTE]
They [I]are[/I] the Masters of Cooling, after all.
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;49247593]Fuck, this is worrying. Should I be worried with my i5-6600K and a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo?[/QUOTE]
I am curious of the exact same thing
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;49247593]Fuck, this is worrying. Should I be worried with my i5-6600K and a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo?[/QUOTE]
I think the main problem that is being talked about is damage done while moving the computer, due to the weight of the heat sink bouncing up and down.
Im probably going to delid mine and put a h110i xt directly on its chip, it should realistically be fine. Ive only heard its screws without springs and people applying them too hard
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;49248601]Im probably going to delid mine and put a h110i xt directly on its chip, it should realistically be fine. Ive only heard its screws without springs and people applying them too hard[/QUOTE]
You'll need a naked ivy mounting bracket to safely do that. Those brackets worked with any ivy/haswell block so it should work just fine.
[QUOTE=Levelog;49248631]You'll need a naked ivy mounting bracket to safely do that. Those brackets worked with any ivy/haswell block so it should work just fine.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, i have one sitting right next to me in my 3570k build, whicg i delidded as well, not bare-die currently but dropped a good 15c on average load. Was able to go froma 4.4ghz oc to a 4.8 all while under 80c
Overclock3d.net has a few statements from manufacturers.
[url]http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/cpu_mainboard/skylake_cpu_can_get_damaged_from_cooler_mounting_pressure/1[/url]
Cooler Master
[QUOTE]Cooler Master has been at the forefront of Cooling Technology since its inception. With the Cooler Master designed heat-sink technology in your coolers, you are getting the best standards of thermal cooler in the world.
Every cooler we ship meets Cooler Master’s highest standards for providing incredible performance, regardless of the design or model.
We would like to reaffirm our commitment to all our fans and supporters that you can rest assured, all air and liquid cooling products from Cooler Master are not affected by the mounting issue.
For a complete list of Cooler Master compatible products for Intel socket LGA 1151 please click here [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;49248215]I think the main problem that is being talked about is damage done while moving the computer, due to the weight of the heat sink bouncing up and down.[/QUOTE]
Well keep in mind that I move my computer outside once in a month to clean out the dust and dirt in my computer using our air compressor.
You reckon I should play it safe and just remove the heatsink when I'll be cleaning it out?
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;49251571]Well keep in mind that I move my computer outside once in a month to clean out the dust and dirt in my computer using our air compressor.
You reckon I should play it safe and just remove the heatsink when I'll be cleaning it out?[/QUOTE]
If you want to be safe, do it. An ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure
Mine is secured on REALLY tight. Had to really squeeze it to get the screws on place. Oh dear.
According to [URL="http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/88628-intel-skylake-cpus-bending-due-cooler-mount-pressure/"]this article[/URL], Scythe is the only major cooling company reported to have bent the processors.
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;49251571]Well keep in mind that I move my computer outside once in a month to clean out the dust and dirt in my computer using our air compressor.
You reckon I should play it safe and just remove the heatsink when I'll be cleaning it out?[/QUOTE]
Not unless your running and jumping with it. Really I don't think it will be a problem.
Excess pressure due to over tightening or excess forces caused by a heavy heat sink attached a vertical motherboard? The wording is vague - a heavy heatsink on a motherboard lying flat doesn't matter unless the heatsink itself actually weighs over 50lbs.
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