LAPD to Begin Enforcing LA's New Measures Against Sleeping Overnight in Cars - Polidicks

[quote]New measures against sleeping in cars overnight in Los Angeles will be enforced by the LAPD starting Monday. The new rules dictate where people living in RVs and cars can park, NBC4's media partner KPCC reports. People who live in their RVs or cars will no longer be able to park within one block (500 feet) away from schools, pre-schools, daycare facilities or parks, according to the municipal code. The restrictions also prohibit parking on any residential street between 9 p.m. and 6 a.m. As of January 2016, more than 7,000 people lived in cars in Los Angeles, according to the latest tally by the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority.[/quote] Most of the content is the video in the link. [url]http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Enforcement-of-LAs-New-Measures-Against-Sleeping-Overnight-in-Cars-Begins-412954703.html[/url]

Glad to see my great city continuing our war against the scourge that is the less-fortunate

[quote]The restrictions also prohibit parking on any residential street between 9 p.m. and 6 a.m.[/quote] What!? Am I reading this right? If you live in a city or even near the centre of a town here, you have no choice but to park your car on the street. The streets are designed around street parking.

[QUOTE=BF;51788252]Am I reading this right?[/QUOTE] No. You seemed to miss the [I]residential[/I] part. You could in theory park in industrial or commercial districts. You can't park in neighborhoods.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51788258]No. You seemed to miss the [I]residential[/I] part. You could in theory park in industrial or commercial districts. You can't park in neighborhoods.[/QUOTE] What!?? What does it mean by you can't park in residential streets? The wording in the article makes it sound like it's an issue separate from the restrictions for homeless people. If I go down my street right now, a residential street, there would be about 20 cars parked out on the side of the road. Is that not a thing in America? Like, if you don't have a garage or driveway, where do you park your car?

Ooh I see what's confusing you. It's not a general parking ban, its for the car sleepers. Sleepers can't park for the night in residential areas.

My bad. I blame the wording of the article. Made it sound like it was a separate issue altogether.

Seems excessive to restrict where people can sleep, why implement this?

[QUOTE=GordonZombie;51788292]Seems excessive to restrict where people can sleep, why implement this?[/QUOTE] Because [I]fuck[/I] the homeless. The only real reason I can think of is preserving property values. Wealthy people (read: people who have the most sway with city legislators and with law enforcement) probably believe that homeless people living out of their cars make their commercial and residential real-estate less valuable. The level of apathy (and now, hostility) shown towards the homeless by the very people in the position to help is heartbreaking.

What's the legal reason they're doing this? Fighting crime rates or drug use or something?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51788351]What's the legal reason they're doing this? Fighting crime rates or drug use or something?[/QUOTE] gentrification

how does a car being parked cause any less issues than a car parked in the same place with someone inside sleeping? someone doesn't like people sleeping or being homeless

A couple years ago when I was afraid of being kicked on to the street I was reading up about living as a homeless dude. If you live out of your car, you get shit like this all the time. Policemen knocking on your window telling you to go away, waking you up on a park bench telling you to go away. All people have is shallow arguments with no justification. You ask where you're supposed to sleep then and it just ends up going back to "I will at most acknowledge you need sleep but not here, nevermind that everyone in the world could say 'not here' so you're basically not allowed to sleep, but just NOT HERE" You never get arrested at least. People are such vapid cunts.

[QUOTE=Lollipoopdeck;51788509]how does a car being parked cause any less issues than a car parked in the same place with someone inside sleeping? someone doesn't like people sleeping or being homeless[/QUOTE] because seeing vagrancy reminds the well off that life isn't so simple for the vast majority and they would rather be shielded from the perils of the real world than be faced with the brutal truths.

Oh man, this is going to basically fuck most of the homeless in the San Fernando Valley. I see quite a bit of them parked around, and by fucked I mean really fucked considering most of the valley is zoned for residential. Kinda ironic how Los Angeles totes itself as some kind of civil rights hub, but is some creepy oligarchy under the surface that bans everything on impulse. Can't wait to move out of here. I love my city because I grew up here, but there's so much I dislike about it.

Yes, the classic manoeuvre of attacking of a problem by going after the effect and not the cause. Absolutely genius thinking on the part of humanity. :goodjob:

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51788557]Yes, the classic manoeuvre of attacking of a problem by going after the effect and not the cause. Absolutely genius thinking on the part of humanity. :goodjob:[/QUOTE]That would imply Los Angeles' city council is smart. Which they are not.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51788258]Snip-O[/QUOTE] Oh, I get it. Drive home then tell your car to drive to work, Just one question? They do know that most people don't own a self driving car?

[QUOTE=Sims_doc;51788738]Oh, I get it. Drive home then tell your car to drive to work, Just one question? They do know that most people don't own a self driving car?[/QUOTE]where the hell did you pull all that from?

[QUOTE=Joazzz;51788841]where the hell did you pull all that from?[/QUOTE] What do you mean?

[QUOTE=Sims_doc;51788887]What do you mean?[/QUOTE]who said anything about self-driving cars anywhere, at any point in this thread or in the article? this is about a law concerning sleeping in cars. people sleeping in cars, parked cars. not people having the cars drive for them while they sleep.

[QUOTE=Joazzz;51788944]this is about a law concerning sleeping in cars. people sleeping in cars, parked cars. not people having the cars drive for them while they sleep.[/QUOTE] It's a bit more than just that. [QUOTE]The restrictions also prohibit parking on any residential street between 9 p.m. and 6 a.m.[/QUOTE]

What about people that voluntarily sleep in vehicles? Van life etc? This law just seems all kinds of bullshit, people just want a place to sleep.

[QUOTE=The golden;51788974]Ah the good 'ol "Make it illegal to be homeless" type bullshit. This won't stop the homeless [B]at all. [/B]It will fuck over the non-homeless though, especially those parking restrictions. Good job you stupid fucks.[/QUOTE] Stopping the homeless by indirectly killing them is a popular tactic recently.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51788276]Ooh I see what's confusing you. It's not a general parking ban, its for the car sleepers. Sleepers can't park for the night in residential areas.[/QUOTE] That's how I've always done it. Find a quiet place in an industrial park and bunk there for the night. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/IMG_5685.jpg[/IMG] It's kinda rude to just pull up in front of someone's house and call it a night.

[QUOTE=The golden;51788974]Ah the good 'ol "Make it illegal to be homeless" type bullshit. This won't stop the homeless [B]at all. [/B]It will fuck over the non-homeless though, especially those parking restrictions. Good job you stupid fucks.[/QUOTE] What homeless? [QUOTE][URL="http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-vehicle-sleeping-ban-20161109-story.html"]Civil rights lawyers asserted Wednesday that the new law’s definition of “dwelling,” which includes possessing a blanket or bedroll or preparing a meal, could apply to any driver stopping to rest or eat on the road.[/URL][/QUOTE] Got a tin of beans or a blanket? Then you're doing fine.

[QUOTE=pentium;51789071]That's how I've always done it. Find a quiet place in an industrial park and bunk there for the night. [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/IMG_5685.jpg[/IMG] It's kinda rude to just pull up in front of someone's house and call it a night.[/QUOTE] do you ever get scared of someone trying to rob stuff from you/your car because it is so isolated? Seems like a ripe secluded location for an opportunist

As someone who was homeless just a month ago (though vastly better off than most,) this breaks my heart. It's difficult to explain how frustrating it is to be utterly helpless on where you can sleep, going to bed not knowing if you'll be able to get to work or not because the freezing cold made you sick. Just barely having enough money for food and fuel. My city has very strict anti-vehicle-camping laws, so you have to get creative with finding a place to sleep. Rich people who see the homeless as a nuisance rather than a tragedy make me sick. Plus if you've ever been to LA, the homeless problem is staggering. Rows upon rows of tents and makeshift shelters line certain streets, especially in the heart of downtown. Vehicle campers should be the least of peoples' worries, job outreach and shelters should be the first.

Does the school ban count for university? Sometimes its easier to sleep in my car overnight when my last class gets out at 11 for my 7 am class instead of driving the hour and a half home. But fuck me, I guess.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51788351]What's the legal reason they're doing this? Fighting crime rates or drug use or something?[/QUOTE] L.A. is a fucking seething, writhing cesspool of the fortunate consistently trouncing the unfortunate. The fact you can stand at an intersection and see the exact split between exceptional wealth and insane poverty in a lot of LA's boroughs is fucking repulsive. I've been there once and I used to date someone who lived in an LA outlying. I'd never go again because it made me just exactly aware of how fucking disgusting the upper classes can become. It's the city of Angels, but it's inhabited by demons. The worst part is they don't want to [I]uplift[/I] the poverty-stricken areas, they want to bulldoze over them. Just sweep away the streetwalkers and stoop-sleepers and build a fucking condo and pretend like the area's "on the rise" when really all that's on the rise is the amount of people dying in the cold. For a place constantly flashed on TV and in movies as the cream of the crop of America it's horrible. All you ever see in fiction is Downtown L.A. and Hollywood. Everywhere else doesn't exist. All those poor neighbourhoods riddled with potholes and violence and people sleeping rough are just something preserved for Real Crime Drama that's basically just a way of going "oh my look at how the paupers live". You never hear about Inglewood or Culver City because they're not ~flashy~. Not flashy yet. Not until they pave it over and build a new shop that exclusively sells coffee boiled in a swan's bowels and artisanal baguettes shaped like cocks. Cunts! [editline]FUCKING PEREZ[/editline] Don't get me started on the LA fucking PD. Even I, a white person from England, got consistently harrassed by LAPD just for looking funny. I can't even imagine how it must be to be a person of color in the less-affluent parts of Los Angeles when the cops roll around.