Germany 'would accept UK exit from EU' to protect migration rules - Polidicks

[t]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/78705000/jpg/_78705595_hi023744554.jpg[/t] [QUOTE] [B]Angela Merkel is reported to have told David Cameron that she will not negotiate on EU migration[/B] [B]Chancellor Angela Merkel would rather see the UK exit from the European Union than compromise over the principle of free movement of workers, according to the German magazine Der Spiegel.[/B] Mrs Merkel is alleged to fear that the UK is approaching a "point of no return". Downing Street would not comment on the reports. Mr Cameron wants to renegotiate the terms of the UK's continued membership before holding an in-out referendum. The prime minister said that freedom of movement would be "at the very heart of my renegotiation strategy for Europe", but Mrs Merkel is said by the magazine to have made clear she will withdraw her support for the UK's continued EU membership if he continues to push for migration reform. Point of no return[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29874392"]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29874392[/URL] Good Riddance, we won't have germany up our arse all the time.

Oh god, no.

[QUOTE=Nyaaaa;46394177] Good Riddance, we won't have germany up our arse all the time.[/QUOTE] Spoken like a true British.

Why does the UK need special treatment?

Good riddance UK, acting like a spoiled child all the time

Meanwhile the conservatives hush up their report on immigration because it, like reality, disagreed with their policies. We can blame immigrants for everything all day long, but that doesn't mean it truly is the problem.

Us next please.

Good. They threaten to leave every time something they don't like is suggested. I hope they like all those trade taxes.

[QUOTE=Satansick;46394234]Why does the UK need special treatment?[/QUOTE] Why use the term 'special treatment'? The UK is an island, and its position on the map makes it a final destination of sorts for people claiming asylum, which isn't how the current system is supposed to work. It's got problems mainland Europe hasn't. This whole big government thing that makes all these separate countries one, with rules that must be obeyed if the majority wants it doesn't work in that sort of scale. I think Merkel's been a bit foolish. Other countries will follow if the UK leaves.

[QUOTE]Ban migrants who do not have a job, and to deport those who are unable to support themselves after three months.[/QUOTE] I'd love this to pass. I have nothing against immigrants, provided they act decently and give their fair share to the community.

[QUOTE=Sprockethead;46394259]Us next please.[/QUOTE] I hope so, The U.S.A are probably getting sick of it too, as well as iran and russia ect, listening to germany..

[QUOTE=Memobot;46394273]Why use the term 'special treatment'? The UK is an island, and its position on the map makes it a final destination of sorts for people claiming asylum, which isn't how the current system is supposed to work. It's got problems mainland Europe hasn't. This whole big government thing that makes all these separate countries one, with rules that must be obeyed if the majority wants it doesn't work in that sort of scale. I think Merkel's been a bit foolish. Other countries will follow if the UK leaves.[/QUOTE] No, they really won't. They'll see the UK leave, and then they'll see our economy fucking tank, and then they'll go "Maybe this free movement stick isn't such a high price to pay" Because it is really fucking not, it is amazing how misinformed people are over what the EU Free Movement agreement actually brings to our shores, but the electorate think it is a massive problem and UKIP and the Tories are pandering to that vocal section of the voter base.

[QUOTE=Satansick;46394234]Why does the UK need special treatment?[/QUOTE] Because the conservatives are in power or something. They always demand special treatment for their dumb actions.

Now Cameron has no choice but to campaign to leave, the EU is clearly too stubborn to reform and doesn't care if we leave. We have nothing stopping us from leaving now. [URL="https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/528922803324866561"]The Polls in this country even show a majority of people wanting to leave[/URL]

[QUOTE=NeonpieDFTBA;46394257]Meanwhile the conservatives hush up their report on immigration because it, like reality, disagreed with their policies. We can blame immigrants for everything all day long, but that doesn't mean it truly is the problem.[/QUOTE] Funny, my country blames immigrants for almost every problem as well. I even remember hearing a bunch of conservative people claiming that illegal immigrants are the ones that voted Obama into office.

[QUOTE=draugur;46394335]Funny, my country blames immigrants for almost every problem as well. I even remember hearing a bunch of conservative people claiming that illegal immigrants are the ones that voted Obama into office.[/QUOTE] I think the republican illegal immigrant narrative is hilarious. its so funny they just choose to ignore the effect of millions of previously disenfranchised black voters who wouldn't have voted normally, and instead they decided to blame them losing the election on something unrelated.

[QUOTE=Swineflu;46394243]Good riddance UK, acting like a spoiled child all the time[/QUOTE] Criticise the UK then Romania isn't an utter shithole.

[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;46394356]Criticise the UK then Romania isn't an utter shithole.[/QUOTE] Nah. If I was born a german you think I would have a different opinion? Just as valid

I will be apocalyptically angry if we end up leaving. I can scarcely imagine not simply being able to jaunt about in Europe with minimal hassle.

[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;46394356]Criticise the UK then Romania isn't an utter shithole.[/QUOTE] That's a really stupid way to approach discussion about politics.

[QUOTE=NeonpieDFTBA;46394257]Meanwhile the conservatives hush up their report on immigration because it, like reality, disagreed with their policies. We can blame immigrants for everything all day long, but that doesn't mean it truly is the problem.[/QUOTE] Ha conservatives listening to been counters who actually know what they're talking about , come over to America and see how full of hot farts the far right is over immigration, they keep saying that they'll work with the dems to fix immigration processes yet they had over a year to bring it up to vote and decided in March that it won't be voted on this year

[QUOTE=proch;46394372]That's a really stupid way to approach discussion about politics.[/QUOTE] No, I just believe in 'Get your own house in order first'.

[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;46394389]No, I just believe in 'Get your own house in order first'.[/QUOTE] What does that have to do with the UK fucking things up for the EU with it's vetoes and acting like a special flower? Such a retarded argument

[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;46394389]No, I just believe in 'Get your own house in order first'.[/QUOTE] As far as he isn't telling the UK to do the exact same thing that have impacted Romania in a negative fashion, I don't see how this is relevant. Not to mention he's just a Citizen of a country, not the head of it.

[QUOTE=Swineflu;46394405]What does that have to do with the UK fucking things up for the EU with it's vetoes and acting like a special flower? Such a retarded argument[/QUOTE] Because the UK contributes a hell of a lot. We don't want to be treated special, we deserve to be treated better than shit.

[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;46394421]Because the UK contributes a hell of a lot. We don't want to be treated special, we deserve to be treated better than shit.[/QUOTE] So you believe Germany, Italy, France, Spain and so on are treated better than the UK?

In a way I feel sorry for PM Cameron. He truly wants the remain in the EU, but knows that in its current state it isn't beneficial for the UK, and the EU isn't willing to make concessions. Cameron isn't wanting to scrap free movement altogether from what I have read, and it doesn't seem too radical to want to control foreign workers coming in when the home country has a high unemployment rate, but Frau Merkel knows best I guess :v:

[QUOTE=Swineflu;46394430]So you believe Germany, Italy, France, Spain and so on are treated better than the UK?[/QUOTE] Erm, they're not forking out £1.7 bil.

[QUOTE=Memobot;46394273]The UK is an island, and its position on the map makes it a final destination of sorts for people claiming asylum[/QUOTE] Spain and Italy have problem with immigration due to their position on the map, not the UK. The reason why you get the immigrants you have is because of imperialism and cultivating back in the day.

[QUOTE=proch;46394295]I'd love this to pass. I have nothing against immigrants, provided they act decently and give their fair share to the community.[/QUOTE] It's not easy to get a job. We shouldn't turn our backs on people just because they're struggling to find work. The tiny portion of immigrants who are receiving benefits and not trying to find work shouldn't be used as an excuse to cut off support for those who need it and are trying. In fact, even those on benefits who aren't trying for work are still spending their benefits in the UK as well as producing jobs since the more people there are in a country, the more people need to be housed, clothed, fed etc and ultimately they still put more into the economy than they take out.