[quote]A new Florida State University study has found that adolescent boys who are hurt in just [b]two physical fights suffer a loss in IQ that is roughly equivalent to missing an entire year of school.[/b] Girls experience a similar loss of IQ after only a single fighting-related injury.
The findings are significant because decreases in IQ are associated with lower educational achievement and occupational performance, mental disorders, behavioral problems and even longevity, the researchers said.[/quote]
Source: [url]http://www.universityherald.com/articles/4114/20130803/injuries-teen-fighting-deal-blow-iq.htm[/url]
So THAT's why all the gangster wannabe kids are all so brain dead...
...:v:
Similarly, I've once read that your IQ gets lowered each time you hit a soccer ball with your head
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The idea doesn't seem that far out there
It's pretty sensationalist.
[quote]"Serious Fighting-Related Injuries Produce a Significant Reduction in Intelligence,"[/quote]
Is the name of their paper, and serious injuries are likely to cause damage regardless of them being attained in fighting or not. If you get kicked in the head that's pretty likely to cause some trauma.
Your normal fisticuffs I'm pretty sure won't fuck you up.
That explains modern me, I used to be quite a bit smarter as a kid, few dozen fights and accidents and trauma and I'm not as sharp of a knife anymore.
Haha shit I was in a fight in Year 10 and another in Year 12 and I walked away with a broken nose and broken teeth from that second one. My friends always jokingly tell me that I'm dumb but there might be truth behind that haha.
[QUOTE]an entire year of school.[/QUOTE]
If this entire year of high school or likewise, its not saying much.
doesn't IQ mean jackshit nowadays?
This is why you should learn to grapple if you want to be a tough boy.
It works both ways, low IQ leads too fighting too
The idea of IQ is appealing to people because it lets them off the hook.
[I]"Well I can't achieve anything in life because my IQ is too low. I'll just accept a mediocre life because I didn't have a high enough IQ to do anything amazing anyway, nor was I talented enough to begin with."[/I]
Why bother putting years of your life into learning a skill, when the idea of IQ and talent are there to assure you that you're not responsible for your own mundanity.
Einstein's first words were not "E=MC2". Jimi Hendrix wasn't born wailing on a six string and Bruce Lee didn't punch his way out of the womb.
There are more ways than one to excel at something in this world. More than anything it just requires serious and continued application over a number of years, until the skill reaches the level of artistic mastery.
People will continue flaunting the words IQ, talent and intelligence around as a linear process that lets them resign comfortably to their fate, guiltless and blameless for never committing to mastering anything. How many lives are wasted due to people simply being told they suck, aren't talented, aren't smart and don't have a high enough IQ to ever achieve anything - instead sitting back and watching television or finding another distraction to chase instead of putting serious hours into something.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;41707780]doesn't IQ mean jackshit nowadays?[/QUOTE]
IQ in society is a pretty useless measure, especially for comparing people. However, for comparing yourself to yourself after certain event, it's a relatively solid indicator.
[QUOTE=Riller;41708181]IQ in society is a pretty useless measure, especially for comparing people. However, for comparing yourself to yourself after certain event, it's a relatively solid indicator.[/QUOTE]
"B-but we need a mathematical unit to measure how dumb a person is!"
What the fuck do you define a injury as? A broken nose? A concussion?
I had to read the actual study to find out. They just had the students measure how severe the injury is on a scale of 1 to 10.
How about you start looking for physical signs of brain damage before publishing shitty papers?
well uhh I call bullshit since before high school I'd get into fights nearly daily (I really disliked some people who just so happened to be my classmates and I didn't bother pretending that I don't) and, not to brag, I'm not really considered dumb by anyone aside from myself and 99% of the internet
[QUOTE=deltasquid;41707148]Similarly, I've once read that your IQ gets lowered each time you hit a soccer ball with your head
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The idea doesn't seem that far out there[/QUOTE]
the ball is pretty hard and when it flies and you hit it is even harder, so when you smash very hard objects against your skull repeatedly the bone will somehow adjust and start pressing on the brain so eventually your forehead will be flat and you'll be missing an amount of brain cells.
Personally it doesn't seem very smart idea to smash your head against hard objects...
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Einstein's first words were not "E=MC2". Jimi Hendrix wasn't born wailing on a six string and [U]Bruce Lee didn't punch his way out of the womb.[/U]
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blasphemy
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;41708162]Bruce Lee didn't punch his way out of the womb.[/QUOTE]
Actually I'm pretty sure he did.
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;41711497]Do you have to put your whole life behind something? Can it not just be a hobby? Realistically anyone can hone a skill to some level of proficiency, but at the end of the day you're never going to be as good of a pianist as a 4 year old girl who plays like a master. Einstein wasn't an average person, a portion of his brain integral to his skill set was disproportionately large and if my memory is correct there's already been a study posted in this section that proved that innate talents are very real and that excessive practice cannot compensate for it.[/QUOTE]
you can have predispositions and advantages for things but if you have no determination youre fucked
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;41711497]Do you have to put your whole life behind something? Can it not just be a hobby? Realistically anyone can hone a skill to some level of proficiency, but at the end of the day you're never going to be as good of a pianist as a 4 year old girl who plays like a master. Einstein wasn't an average person, a portion of his brain integral to his skill set was disproportionately large and if my memory is correct there's already been a study posted in this section that proved that innate talents are very real and that excessive practice cannot compensate for it.[/QUOTE]
Nobody got anywhere of note without hard work. (even pop stars, as talentless as they appear have usually worked hard behind the scenes, i.e making connections with the right people and shamelessly and tirelessly self promoting non stop, granted its not the same kind of "hard work" as most people would classify it)
People love to believe the opposite because it gives them an easy out and they don't have to suffer ego loss for the sake of a reality check when it comes to their priorities.
All those super athletes making megabucks? Yeah they're talented, and genetically gifted more often than not, but if you look at the one common background they all share, they all typically have parents who pushed them to work ridiculously hard, or they come from a background where their circumstances act as a motivator to dedicate themselves to a goal (poverty).
Talent isn't unique, nor is it rare. Wasted talent is the most common theme among the people of the world, because talent isn't hard to come by - it just is. Having the drive and willpower to work on that talent however is rare, because hard work is, welp, hard, and very few like being outside of their comfort zone.
I'm a naturally talented boxer, but I didnt amount to shit in boxing until I started putting in hard work. Trust me "natural talent" doesn't account for shit until you put in the work to hone it.
We can go through countless examples, Usain Bolt wasn't born with the ability to be the fastest man in the world, he had to work at it. In fact contrary to popular belief, nobody in sprinting gave a fuck about Bolt until he fixed his technique (and drug regime probably), before that he was just another sprinter.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;41707469]Haha shit I was in a fight in Year 10 and another in Year 12 and I walked away with a broken nose and broken teeth from that second one. My friends always jokingly tell me that I'm dumb but there might be truth behind that haha.[/QUOTE]
please don't let this be a fight thread about who can be the biggest douche proving their childish brovado
[QUOTE=Riller;41708181]IQ in society is a pretty useless measure, especially for comparing people. However, for comparing yourself to yourself after certain event, it's a relatively solid indicator.[/QUOTE]
It's extremely solid as long as you have a decent (>100) sample size. Scientists need some sort of way of quantifying intelligence, and there's no simpler way to do that than to have a standardized test for it. Of course that means you're just measuring how good people are at IQ tests, not their intelligence, but for anyone who isn't trying to game the test just to get a big number, it's irrelevant.
I have no clue why FP goes nuts anytime IQs are mentioned, they're a very important metric to have. Not to mention it's really simple, 15 points is one standard deviation, so having an IQ of 115 puts you one SD above the population mean (84th percentile), 130 puts you two SDs above (97.7 percentile), etc.
I was booted in the head by a football once and now I can't
This study shows absolutely no cause-and-effect correlation between the two.
I got a concussion snowboarding once and completely lost any recollection of the entire week prior. P sure that didn't help me brains
I've been hit in the head several times with a soccer ball from across the gym and it sure does hurt like hell. Although, I managed to shrug that off and wasn't affected by it at all nor did it decrease my intelligence so that's all well. Although, a soccer professional managing to strike a individual across a head at a far range? That'll do more traumatic damage than a teenagst with little experience managing to strike me in the head which leads to a whole different story.
EDIT 1: I lost a tiny bit of memories but that's about it really.
I guess that explains why the more sports-oriented kids(most of them play football) in my school have a harder time grasping things like mathematical/scientific equations and concepts.
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I have no clue why FP goes nuts anytime IQs are mentioned, they're a very important metric to have. Not to mention it's really simple, 15 points is one standard deviation, so having an IQ of 115 puts you one SD above the population mean (84th percentile), 130 puts you two SDs above (97.7 percentile), etc.[/QUOTE]
The same reason people get cognitive dissonance over anything that compares them to otherr people - nobody likes acknowledging they may be inferior to someone else.
Seen a thread about penis size lately?
[QUOTE=ViralHatred;41707155]It's pretty sensationalist.
Is the name of their paper, and serious injuries are likely to cause damage regardless of them being attained in fighting or not. If you get kicked in the head that's pretty likely to cause some trauma.
Your normal fisticuffs I'm pretty sure won't fuck you up.[/QUOTE]
Guess I'm fucked.
My older brother kicked my head against a wall repeatedly when I was like 11. Why? Because my eldest brother had him in a chokehold and he was kicking out in response. Why did my eldest brother have him in a chokehold? Because he was punching me for calling him gay.
[editline]5th August 2013[/editline]
Oh yeah, and during the scuffle my brother's friend fell off the bed and got his arse wedged in a wastepaper bin.
I find this to be pretty bullshit.
I got in a shit ton of fights at school and I'd spar with my friends when I was younger- and guess what. I'm not brain dead.
I've been punched in the head more than once before, I always knew I was borderline retarded. :(
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