76% of Britons believe Islam is 'not compatible' with our way of life
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[B]Fewer than one in four people think Islam is compatible with British life, faith minister warns[/B]
- Baroness Warsi accuses critics of Islam of being 'un-British'
- She points to polling which shows just 24% think Islam is compatible with being British and 23% say it is not a threat to Western civilisation
[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2267515/Baroness-Warsi-Fewer-people-think-Islam-compatible-British-life.html[/URL]
Personally, and without sounding racist, I think if they move to Britain, they should be prepared to live how the rest of the population lives their lives, and not how their ancestors did.
Baroness Warsi is a total mongo, no one has an issue with islam or muslims but we do have a problem with religious nutcases, muslim or otherwise.
Different cultures/religions abide to different laws and ways of life, it's the willingness to adapt to others that dictates militancy towards minorities.
[QUOTE=James xX;39344219]Personally, and without sounding racist, I think if they move to Britain, they should be prepared to live how the rest of the population lives their lives, and not how their ancestors did.[/QUOTE]
Why does it matter
Seeing as pubs used to be a staple of British social culture, and alcohol is forbidden in Islam, I can't be too surprised. Plus all the abbies and cathedrals instead of mosques. And page 3 in the Sun.
[QUOTE=James*;39344242]Why does it matter[/QUOTE]
Because there is often religious tension otherwise, plus some of their sharia laws conflict with the national laws. Generally speaking now for example: In France there is a law that says one musn't have anything hiding his face when out in public, and that law is always ignored or disregarded when it comes to the way other religions dress.
[QUOTE=James*;39344242]Why does it matter[/QUOTE]
You are seriously ignorant if you don't see how this has any effect.
[QUOTE=James xX;39344219]Personally, and without sounding racist, I think if they move to Britain, they should be prepared to live how the rest of the population lives their lives, and not how their ancestors did.[/QUOTE]
But they don't have to, if you ever go to a British city you'll notice the faiths and classes are separated. There are areas where the majority are muslim, where the everyone speaks their languages, where there is no alcohol, and where there are plenty of mosques.
Likewise they'll be areas which are almost fully white, with churches and pubs.
The different faiths and classes won't live together.
[QUOTE=toaster_2.0;39344278]You are seriously ignorant if you don't see how this has any effect.[/QUOTE]
Thankfully your exhaustive argument has convinced me otherwise
[QUOTE=matt.ant;39344315]But they don't have to, if you ever go to a British city you'll notice the faiths and classes are separated. There are areas where the majority are muslim, where the everyone speaks their languages, where there is no alcohol, and where there are plenty of mosques.
Likewise they'll be areas which are almost fully white, with churches and pubs.
The different faiths and classes won't live together.[/QUOTE]
Isolating communities and ideas from eachother to solve the problem only lasts for so long, until the communities literally feel like different groups. So when one of them goes and makes trouble in the other, the whole of each is persecuted, resulting in xenophobia.
I don't think Islam is compatible with the UK way of life, but you can say that about any people of a different culture or lifestyle moving into a foreign region. I think all non-natives to Britain should live by our lifestyle, or as close to it as their culture allows it, which would hopefully cut down on the whole racial segregation that you see in cities.
[QUOTE=matt.ant;39344315]But they don't have to, if you ever go to a British city you'll notice the faiths and classes are separated. There are areas where the majority are muslim, where the everyone speaks their languages, where there is no alcohol, and where there are plenty of mosques.
Likewise they'll be areas which are almost fully white, with churches and pubs.
The different faiths and classes won't live together.[/QUOTE]
I guess what I'm saying is, we should mix our cultures, taken the best parts and living by that, because when these cultures live separately, again, tensions arise. I hate to bring up the meme but when you walk through a place like the outskirts of Leeds, it feels a bit like "You've come to the wrong neighborhood"
Sharia laws does not cause problem with local laws because muslims will follow the sharia laws until they start to cause problems with local laws. By then they are not allowed to carry on with sharia law.
Not compatible with the British [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_England]way of life[/url]?
Maybe abolish state religion then talk about how certain religions are damaging to society or oppressive
[QUOTE=CMB Unit 01;39344365]I don't think Islam is compatible with the UK way of life, but you can say that about any people of a different culture or lifestyle moving into a foreign region. I think all non-natives to Britain should live by our lifestyle, or as close to it as their culture allows it, which would hopefully cut down on the whole racial segregation that you see in cities.[/QUOTE]
How do you enforce culture?
People in Britain should abide by British law but beyond that who cares what people get up to
the british should take the french attitude to religion
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La%C3%AFcit%C3%A9[/url]
[QUOTE=James xX;39344219]Personally, and without sounding racist, I think if they move to Britain, they should be prepared to live how the rest of the population lives their lives, and not how their ancestors did.[/QUOTE]
Still country based and developed under Christianity, even if we are pretty secular now. Baroness Warsi is her usual loony self.
Being British is about accepting people to this country. If they come here and demand change, we all end up a bit confused, and for the most part suspicious.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39344386]Not compatible with the British [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_England]way of life[/url]?
Maybe abolish state religion then talk about how certain religions are damaging to society or oppressive[/QUOTE]
What? A huge majority of Britons are atheist, religion isn't involved in any of our politics either apart from when it comes to the fact that we have to tolerate ALL religions regardless of their oppressive beliefs.
[QUOTE=James*;39344402]How do you enforce culture?
People in Britain should abide by British law but beyond that who cares what people get up to[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying enforcement, just education.
Without sounding EDL-ish, why are there "Sharia law" places in Britain?
the fuck man it's our country, with our own laws, not yours.
I bet you 76% of Britons also know jack shit about Islam other than what they read in the Daily Mail.
[QUOTE=Jacknife;39344625]Without sounding EDL-ish, why are there "Sharia law" places in Britain?
the fuck man it's our country, with our own laws, not yours.[/QUOTE]
There aren't. Ignorant bigots like to use the "THE MUSLIMS WILL TAKE OVER BRITAIN" bollocks to justify hatred.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39344386]Not compatible with the British [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_England]way of life[/url]?
Maybe abolish state religion then talk about how certain religions are damaging to society or oppressive[/QUOTE]
what this has nothing to do with anything
the c of e's role in contemporary life is ceremonial at most, and if you were to pick a religion to be tied to the government you couldn't pick a softer or more progressive mainstream faith
you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about
[QUOTE=James xX;39344219]Personally, and without sounding racist, I think if they move to Britain, they should be prepared to live how the rest of the population lives their lives, and not how their ancestors did.[/QUOTE]
As long as they don't do anything illegal why should you care how they want to live their lives?
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;39344636]I bet you 76% of Britons also know jack shit about Islam other than what they read in the Daily Mail.[/QUOTE]
everything I needed to know about islam I learned in 1453
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39344703]what this has nothing to do with anything
the c of e's role in contemporary life is ceremonial at worst, and if you were to pick and religion to be tied to the government you couldn't pick a softer or more progressive mainstream faith
you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about[/QUOTE]
Then how come 26 seats in the House of Lords are reserved for Archbishops?
[QUOTE=CMB Unit 01;39344595]I'm not saying enforcement, just education.[/QUOTE]
what are we educating exactly?
i don't think you've thought this through
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39344386]Not compatible with the British [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_England]way of life[/url]?
Maybe abolish state religion then talk about how certain religions are damaging to society or oppressive[/QUOTE]
Not even the CoE listens to the CoE.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39344386]Not compatible with the British [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_England]way of life[/url]?
Maybe abolish state religion then talk about how certain religions are damaging to society or oppressive[/QUOTE]
Try being British before you say stuff like this, the CoE means nothing here.
Not that the article in the OP doesn't reek of classic British xenophobia.
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