Hasta La Vista: Robot picked up and crushed a worker in German factory - Polidicks

[QUOTE]A robot caused the death of a factory worker at a Volkswagen assembly plant in Germany on Monday, prompting an investigation and sending a wave of panic about a robot-controlled future across social media. According to German news site The Local, the technician was assembling the robot when it suddenly picked the man up and pushed him into a metal plate. The man eventually died from his injuries. The Financial Times notes that robot-related deaths are quite rare, because “robots are kept behind safety cages,” which is where robots belong. (The man was inside the cage at the time, a fact that will certainly be seized upon by robot apologists.) In a statement, Volkswagen emphasized that while the robot did not suffer any technical defects, it was old and outdated, and “was not one of the new generation of lightweight collaborative robots that work side by side with workers on the production line and forgo safety cages.” (This raises its own concerns—perhaps the new robots are nice to humans as a strategy, lulling them into a false sense of security.)[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/07/robot-kills-factory-worker-germany?mbid=social_twitter[/url]

The mental image I get from this is more terrifying than what probably actually happened

I'm assuming it had a function where it would pick up stuff and they didn't really finish it fully

[quote]The Financial Times notes that robot-related deaths are quite rare, because “robots are kept behind safety cages,” which is where robots belong.[/quote] That might sound really bad in 50-100 years.

[quote](The man was inside the cage at the time, a fact that will certainly be seized upon by robot apologists.) (This raises its own concerns—perhaps the new robots are nice to humans as a strategy, lulling them into a false sense of security.)[/quote] a man died in an industrial accident, good opportunity for jokes

[QUOTE=Grimhound;48097203]That might sound really bad in 50-100 years.[/QUOTE] Coming from Germany no less.

After doing two modules on systems engineering I have heard enough about industrial robot accidents to know I can never let my guard down when programming the fucking things. There aren't massive numbers of these incidents, but the ones that always come up in case studies are fucking horrifying. Bodies still being impaled against the wall of the control booth far longer than you'd hope (non-vital hits too, so no doubt there was suffering), tales of people having heads straight up skewered by robots that just had the worst programming. Loads of this shit can all be traced back to some hack in a basement hired for bottom dollar by these companies. Automation is largely totally safe, but due to user error or programmers themselves being outright retarded they are still a risk if you aren't careful.

As unfortunate as the death is, I think it's obvious the article is try to stir an "anti-robot" sentiment by calling it a robot. If it was called a machine I doubt many would care.

[QUOTE] sending a wave of panic about a robot-controlled future across social media.[/QUOTE] Oh wow, really... [editline]1st July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Grimhound;48097203]That might sound really bad in 50-100 years.[/QUOTE] Also for the fact that robot [URL="http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/05/where-does-the-word-robot-come-from/"]almost literary mean slave[/URL]

you don't operate within the area of heavy machinery.

[QUOTE=Ithon;48097348]you don't operate within the area of heavy machinery.[/QUOTE] God i miss the bad reading rating. [QUOTE]the technician was assembling the robot [/QUOTE]

[video=youtube;eeX7rB65nvA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeX7rB65nvA[/video] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Reaction video" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=darth-veger;48097357]God i miss the bad reading rating.[/QUOTE] what I meant to say was even when assembling it nothing is on, at all. You don't operate on anything live, thought that included within, but whatever.

Meanwhile on twitter [img]http://i.imgur.com/aIQb1RU.jpg[/img]

Yes, I felt this through the consciousness hivemind that connects all Germans. It was painful.

THE RISE OF THE MACHINES IS COMING UNPLUG YOUR COMPUTER IT CAN CONTR- There is nothing wrong with machines, Obey your mechanical overlords.

Seems like more safety controls should have been in place. Why was the machine powered while the technician was in the cage.

[QUOTE=NickNack1234;48098809]Seems like more safety controls should have been in place. Why was the machine powered while the technician was in the cage.[/QUOTE] It's likely the technician ignored standard safety procedures.

[QUOTE=darth-veger;48097314]Oh wow, really... [editline]1st July 2015[/editline] Also for the fact that robot [URL="http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/05/where-does-the-word-robot-come-from/"]almost literary mean slave[/URL][/QUOTE] When you think about it's, the robots are not really the slaves. Look at the nuclear power, we're making our planet uninhabitable for organic life ... just to power robots who will be able to "live" on this planet, even with all the radioactive wastes/pollution and shit. But they don't have intelligence, so for the moment they are the slaves :dance: (Matter of time i guess)

[QUOTE=ExtReMLapin;48099251] Look at the nuclear power, we're making our planet uninhabitable for organic life ... just to power robots who will be able to "live" on this planet, even with all the radioactive wastes/pollution and shit.[/QUOTE] Circuits and magnetic plates are more susceptible to ionising radiation and suffer from something as simple as rain. Organic material is naturally resistant to this and regenerate. Fruit flies would be the only survivors of a nuclear apocalypse.

[QUOTE=01271;48099332]Circuits and magnetic plates are more susceptible to ionising radiation and suffer from something as simple as rain. Organic material is naturally resistant to this and regenerate. Fruit flies would be the only survivors of a nuclear apocalypse.[/QUOTE]You're under the impression that a "nuclear apocalypse" would actually involve deadly amounts of radiation everywhere. People would starve and die because of the infrastructure collapse, meanwhile people immediately exposed to the lion's share of the fallout and blast would be the only direct radiation-related deaths. All that would happen is birth defects and cancer rates would skyrocket for a couple decades, the "apocalypse" would not be as wild and crazy as you imagine it. Which is kind of unfortunate, I'd much rather have an exciting post-apocalyptic wasteland with raiders and deathclaws than the lame as shit one we'd get in reality. It's just like cyberpunk, we're living in the boring version of it versus the cool one where there's megacities and hot chicks in leather bootyshorts and neon fishnet tank tops.

why was he working on the robot while it was on? This sounds like an oversight to me, but I dont know much about industrial machines so I might be wrong.

[QUOTE=Turnips5;48097212]a man died in an industrial accident, good opportunity for jokes[/QUOTE] Isn't that the point of this subforum?

i think people always overhype this robot stuff. it will be thousands of years before we get fully-sentient robots.

[QUOTE=kekeroni;48112461]i think people always overhype this robot stuff. it will be thousands of years before we get fully-sentient robots.[/QUOTE] unlikely. the field of AI arent just gonna fuck about for a few thousand years it will be decades or centuries, unless humanity kills itself and restarts

[QUOTE=Antlerp;48112617]unlikely. the field of AI arent just gonna fuck about for a few thousand years it will be decades or centuries[/QUOTE] Betting on a decade.

Sounds like someone's safety procedures need a check over, or that someone skipped part of it. [editline]3rd July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=hexpunK;48097268]After doing two modules on systems engineering I have heard enough about industrial robot accidents to know I can never let my guard down when programming the fucking things. There aren't massive numbers of these incidents, but the ones that always come up in case studies are fucking horrifying. Bodies still being impaled against the wall of the control booth far longer than you'd hope (non-vital hits too, so no doubt there was suffering), tales of people having heads straight up skewered by robots that just had the worst programming. Loads of this shit can all be traced back to some hack in a basement hired for bottom dollar by these companies. Automation is largely totally safe, but due to user error or programmers themselves being outright retarded they are still a risk if you aren't careful.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the problem with robots is that they do exactly what you tell them.

[quote]Hasta La Vista[/quote] Let me tell you something. I just laughed for a good, full 5 minutes at this alone. I just can't stop imagining a blank expression Terminator destroying this poor German worker. Fuck you for making me laugh that hard, at someone dying nonetheless

I saw these kinds of machinery in a Porsche production plant in action once, and as amazing as the technology and engineering behind them is they are equally terrifying. They are pretty much just these giant metal hulks that can enact crazy amounts of force on things and just do whatever they are programmed to do, and simple programming errors can cause serious amounts of damage to the surroundings of the machine. I always wondered why there's not much research into safety mechanisms that stop the operation as soon as a employee is in the workspace

[QUOTE=MyAlt91;48112622]Betting on a decade.[/QUOTE] That's extremely optimistic. And don't gimme any of that Kurzweil shit, the man lives by selling a fairy tale.