• Young, Educated and Seeking Financial Security
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[quote] Above all other major life goals, today’s college students and recent graduates are looking for financial security. That’s one finding from a report released today from the Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers University. In February the center surveyed juniors, seniors and graduate students at four-year colleges — as well as working college graduates of earlier generations — about life and career. Among the more interesting questions was one about the importance of various life goals. [img]http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/05/24/business/economy/economix-24lifegoals/economix-24lifegoals-blog480.jpg[/img] John J. Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers. Survey was conducted online Feb. 15-28 by Knowledge Networks, and included (1) 431 current junior, senior or graduate students at a four-year college in the fall of 2011; (2) 807 millennial workers (ages 21-32) who graduated from a four-year college and who are currently employed full time; (3) 230 Generation X workers (ages 33-48) who graduated from a four-year college and are currently employed full time; (4) 258 baby-boomer workers (ages 49-65) who graduated from a four-year college and who are currently employed full time. While young people, and particularly today’s generation of young people, are generally thought to be more interested in pursuing their ideals and passions than money, 91 percent of college students and 95 percent of millennials (here referring to college graduates between ages of 21 and 32) said that being financially secure was either essential or very important to them. Perhaps shaken by the terrible economy they are graduating into, these young Americans are about as concerned with lifetime financial security as boomers and Gen Xers are, as you can see in the chart above. Much smaller shares of young people felt equally driven about being a leader in their community or having a job with an impact on causes they cared about, although they were still more likely to emphasize these goals than their elder counterparts were. Younger respondents were also significantly more likely to say wealth was an essential or very important life goal. While I’d expect young, indebted, stranded grads to want financial security, I would have guessed that affluence was lower on the priority list. Millennials, after all, have unusually high volunteering rates compared to earlier cohorts of young people. This is the first time the Heldrich Center asked these specific questions, so it’s hard to know to what extent these generational differences are due to aging, current (and eventually passing) economic conditions or something culturally specific to each age cohort. For example, millennial graduates are more likely to rate having a spouse as an essential life goal than are current college students. Maybe there’s a cultural divide between the two groups, or maybe college students are less likely to have marriage on their radar screen.[/quote] [url]http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/24/young-educated-and-seeking-financial-security/?ref=business[/url]
I have plenty of financial security due to the fact that I joined the military. That, and it pays for my college too. I think that colleges charge too much in tuition to begin with, and that makes it really hard for college grads to become financially secure.
yeah, it's stupid how up kept and crap every little thing about college has to be. I'd rather them just charge lower rates and have to deal with maybe some older lecture halls or even some old chairs and tables. I don't need a brand new, top of the line desk to take freaking lecture notes on.
[QUOTE=Mr. Sun;36095353]yeah, it's stupid how up kept and crap every little thing about college has to be. I'd rather them just charge lower rates and have to deal with maybe some older lecture halls or even some old chairs and tables. I don't need a brand new, top of the line desk to take freaking lecture notes on.[/QUOTE] I know several high-end universities near where I live that have been around for the better part of two centuries, and they don't bother updating the buildings, classrooms, and halls because of the historical value. Most of the lecture halls look like impoverished high school classrooms from the 1980s. The hell is the money going to? Research? I should also note that these schools are giving out less financial aid reward money, as well. I myself have recently graduated from high school, and I am absolutely [I]fucked[/I] in regards to finance, as, even as class valedictorian, I have not received a single penny in scholarship or financial aid money - every scholarship available to me is a competition, and the chances of winning them are extremely slim. Also I can't even enter a large portion of them due to lacking video recording/editing equipment or not being of the correct ethnicity.
The reason the costs are so high is because any respectable college/university is not-for-profit, and often gets subsidies from the government. Lately, the government has been cutting education (go figure) and thus tuition has risen.
I'd be more motivated to go back to college if I didn't gave to take subjects that have nothing to do with what I want to major in.
[QUOTE=Banned?;36095419]I'd be more motivated to go back to college if I didn't gave to take subjects that have nothing to do with what I want to major in.[/QUOTE] Examples? I hear that quite commonly, English classes, people hate taking them when they want to be an engineer or something. Being proficient in your language factors into[I] everything[/I]. Consider there are two people. It is your duty to judge which one is more intelligent. You may only consider their grammar, spelling, and writing habits in this judgement. Which one are you going to choose? The one who writes like a twelve year old in Call of Duty, or the one who writes as if he's writing a book (Id est, uses colourful words and shows a high repository of vocabulary, not one who draws something that should be a paragraph out to ten pages.) The thing is, I bet anyone here presented with this would deem the one who was more proficient in the English language more intelligent. You must show intelligence in everything you to to be taken as seriously, by others, as you take yourself, your goals, and your field of work.
[QUOTE=Irkalla;36095911]Examples? I hear that quite commonly, English classes, people hate taking them when they want to be an engineer or something. [B]Being proficient in your language factors into[I] everything[/I]. Consider there are two people. It is your duty to judge which one is more intelligent. You may only consider their grammar, spelling, and writing habits in this judgement. Which one are you going to choose? The one who writes like a twelve year old in Call of Duty, or the one who writes as if he's writing a book (Id est, uses colourful words and shows a high repository of vocabulary, not one who draws something that should be a paragraph out to ten pages.)[/B] The thing is, I bet anyone here presented with this would deem the one who was more proficient in the English language more intelligent. You must show intelligence in everything you to to be taken as seriously, by others, as you take yourself, your goals, and your field of work.[/QUOTE] There's a certain value in knowing a language but it greatly diminishes past a certain level, the fact that you think understanding english shows any semblance of a correlation to intelligence of a human being is astonishing to say the least. You then go on to video game analogies which is the point it gets laughable, then you manage to go past that and manage to say that a person deemed more proficient in english is more intelligent. Albert Einstein was born in Ulm and yes he understood english but sure as fuck he knew german better.
Unless you're going into law or business, do you really need to spend middle school, high school AND university on engilsh? Come the fuck on. Also in scientific fields I'd rather take someone who can write straight and blunt, not with colorful words and pages of useless text. Get to the core idea. It's called a report and not science fiction for a reason.
[QUOTE=parket;36096432]There's a certain value in knowing a language but it greatly diminishes past a certain level, the fact that you think understanding english shows any semblance of a correlation to intelligence of a human being is astonishing to say the least. You then go on to video game analogies which is the point it gets laughable, then you manage to go past that and manage to say that a person deemed more proficient in english is more intelligent. Albert Einstein was born in Ulm and yes he understood english but sure as fuck he knew german better.[/QUOTE] He makes an incredibly valid point though, and you are brushing it off far to easily. Yeah, at a certain level knowing your own language's complexities gets redundant. However, that is by no means the initial English classes in college. I can attest to this, as I just finished all my required English courses at my university, which is known for gen. eds. being a bit harder than say another in-state university or a community college. And I must say that most people in both my own English class as well as my two roommate's classes struggled with basic sentence structure as well as spelling and grammar. Now, I'm very unsure if you are in middle school, high school, college/university, or even residing in America, but from my own personal job-hunting, scholarship-hunting, and college course-taking experience, I can attest to the fact that if you have even two spelling mistakes in any given thing you write, including emails, and do not format the given medium you are working on correctly, you will be looked upon negatively, and it does hurt you. Correctly using your own language is incredibly important, and it extends far beyond the academic world. If you haven't noticed, companies observing potential employees' facebook accounts is becoming far more regular, and many companies will critique every communication you have with them prior, (and sometimes after) to them hiring you. Obviously if your life goal is to be a cashier at a grocery store, then English isn't going to be the most important thing for you to worry about, and playing games might be the best thing for you, as to increase hand-eye coordination. but if you aspire to be a manager at that grocery store, then expect the need to properly use your own language. If you ever look at those facebook fail sites and see one of the pictures on there depicting some one saying that English doesn't matter outside of school, you'll notice people laughing at that. The problem for that person is, that English (or what ever one's language might be for a given country) does matter, and should constantly and consistently be used correctly, with very few exceptions. The more lax we get with our own language, the more watered down it will become. [QUOTE=AceOfDivine;36096508]Unless you're going into law or business, do you really need to spend middle school, high school AND university on engilsh? Come the fuck on. Also in scientific fields I'd rather take someone who can write straight and blunt, not with colorful words and pages of useless text. Get to the core idea. It's called a report and not science fiction for a reason.[/QUOTE] English is a very complicated language, and certainly takes time to become proficient at, just as with many languages around the world. The idea of spending so much time on it would, ideally, prepare you to write both a science fiction piece as well as a scientific report. Schools in America may or may not meet this standard though. Additionally, much of English at the high school level isn't even directly about English, but knowing how to research and use sources as well as learning historical contexts.
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