Didn't see a thread about it
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Looks like Hillary may pull this one off mounting more losses against Bernie
Guess he couldn't get the black vote.
The social justice crowd calling him the embodiment of white privilege and the legacy of Bill Clinton were some pretty tough hurdles for Bernie.
Bill hardly even deserves the popularity he has with black people.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49826355]Guess he couldn't get the black vote.
The social justice crowd calling him the embodiment of white privilege and the legacy of Bill Clinton were some pretty tough hurdles for Bernie.
Bill hardly even deserves the popularity he has with black people.[/QUOTE]
The name hillary has is the reason she is going to nearly clean sweep Super Tuesday.
[url]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/march1dem.html[/url]
As it stands it is not looking good for Bernie getting much of anything notable.
And of course Trump is winning
Going out with my family in thirty or so to go vote for Bernie.
Yeehaw and other southern platitudes.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49826355]Guess he couldn't get the black vote.
The social justice crowd calling him the embodiment of white privilege and the legacy of Bill Clinton were some pretty tough hurdles for Bernie.
Bill hardly even deserves the popularity he has with black people.[/QUOTE]
They're pretty delusional then.
It's as bad as finding those homeless/poor people that voted for conservative candidates who made it their promise to take down Obamacare and other social policies that would shit on whatever wellbeing they had left.
Or finding Mexicans that voted for Trump. The guy calls them paedo's and rapists and cartel thugs and wants to build a wall around them with their own cash and they're okay with it.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;49826415]
Seems legit[/QUOTE]
[quote]According to our final polls-plus forecast, Hillary Clinton has a greater than 99% chance [B]of winning [/B]the South Carolina primary[/quote]
That isn't by how much she is projected to win, just how likely she will get more votes than Sanders. Though I think it's pointlessly confusing and misleading because it isn't a winner takes all race.
What is actually the deal with Clinton's popularity with black voters? I know it exists, but I don't understand why it is there. And this is coming from someone who doesn't even like Sanders...
It's honestly hit me just now that like...Bernie is probably just not going to win.
After all this fuss and all this progress. It just wasn't enough
Bummer
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;49826444]What is actually the deal with Clinton's popularity with black voters? I know it exists, but I don't understand why it is there. And this is coming from someone who doesn't even like Sanders...[/QUOTE]
bill plays the sax
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;49826444]What is actually the deal with Clinton's popularity with black voters? I know it exists, but I don't understand why it is there. And this is coming from someone who doesn't even like Sanders...[/QUOTE]
Clinton has a name that has circulated a lot in media, most people remember how Bill was so that sticks for a lot of people. Bernie is an outsider without much attention until recently, meaning he looks like a bigger risk for voters who don't closely follow politics.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;49826444]What is actually the deal with Clinton's popularity with black voters? I know it exists, but I don't understand why it is there. And this is coming from someone who doesn't even like Sanders...[/QUOTE]
Bill was "the first Black president" (named so before Obama came into office) because he grew up poor in the South.
essentially it has nothing at all to do with hillary herself
[QUOTE=Clovernoodle;49826458]It's honestly hit me just now that like...Bernie is probably just not going to win.
After all this fuss and all this progress. It just wasn't enough
Bummer[/QUOTE]
I, for one, welcome our corporate overlords.
If it isn't Hillary who is in bed with big business, it will be trump who IS big business.
[QUOTE=Clovernoodle;49826458]It's honestly hit me just now that like...Bernie is probably just not going to win.
After all this fuss and all this progress. It just wasn't enough
Bummer[/QUOTE]
don't speak too soon
shit hasn't even gotten real yet
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy_FqMuehjQ[/url] gives a short look. Regardless of the video, a lot of the reason Sanders isn't given a chance in Black communities is that he's an unknown white old male Senator from Vermont to them and Hillary is extremely recognizable and has had a history in the south. I'm going to assume the reason Sanders hasn't been able to show himself as he has in other states is that these Black communities are very closely tied together and had already dedicated their vote to Hillary ever since it was obvious she was running.
[QUOTE=Clovernoodle;49826458]It's honestly hit me just now that like...Bernie is probably just not going to win.
After all this fuss and all this progress. It just wasn't enough
Bummer[/QUOTE]
The DNC was really never giving their full support to an outsider, same with the RNC they hate donald but what donald managed to do was what bernie should have done
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49826495]don't speak too soon
shit hasn't even gotten real yet[/QUOTE]
Indeed, we still have the rest of the country to go. Wait for the states with a more politically aware population to pull through.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;49826488]I, for one, welcome our corporate overlords.
If it isn't Hillary who is in bed with big business, it will be trump who IS big business.[/QUOTE]
Trump is hated by big business because they don't control him.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;49826543]Indeed, we still have the rest of the country to go. Wait for the states with a more politically aware population to pull through.[/QUOTE]
Honestly the only ones that really matter after this is California, Texas and a couple other big pop states.
Whomever the Midwest picks or the tiny states like Rhode Island or New Jersey is irrelevant.
[QUOTE=Clovernoodle;49826458]It's honestly hit me just now that like...Bernie is probably just not going to win.
After all this fuss and all this progress. It just wasn't enough
Bummer[/QUOTE]
Nah, he still has a great chance.
You're trying to call the race at fewer than 5% of delegates. Sanders will dominate the north following Super Tuesday. South Carolina is one of Clinton's biggest states - most polls show him pulling decent margins in states like Texas. If he can exceed expectations on Super Tuesday and pull off a win in Oklahoma or Tennessee, he's pretty much locked in. If he meets expectations and loses those states, he still has a great chance - it'd still be a fairly decent tie.
Unless Bernie somehow fails to get Minnesota and other strongholds this Tuesday, he's in the race for a long time still. And every minute he's in the race, he gains more supporters, and Hillary loses them.
Everyone knew SC was going to be a massive loss. It's no surprise at all - he can afford to lose SC by awful margins and still make it up on Super Tuesday and beyond.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;49826591]Nah, he still has a great chance.
You're trying to call the race at fewer than 5% of delegates. Sanders will dominate the north following Super Tuesday. South Carolina is one of Clinton's biggest states - most polls show him pulling decent margins in states like Texas. If he can exceed expectations on Super Tuesday and pull off a win in Oklahoma or Tennessee, he's pretty much locked in. If he meets expectations and loses those states, he still has a great chance - it'd still be a fairly decent tie.
Unless Bernie somehow fails to get Minnesota and other strongholds this Tuesday, he's in the race for a long time still. And every minute he's in the race, he gains more supporters, and Hillary loses them.
Everyone knew SC was going to be a massive loss. It's no surprise at all - he can afford to lose SC by awful margins and still make it up on Super Tuesday and beyond.[/QUOTE]
Sanders winning Tenessee is a [url=http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/tennessee-democratic/]pipe dream[/url] at this point, and Oklahoma is still constested.
He has to win big in Super Tuesday in order to stay competitive, and at this rate, he is not. Read [url]http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bernie-sanders-doesnt-need-momentum-he-needs-to-win-these-states/[/url] for more information.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;49826591]Nah, he still has a great chance.
You're trying to call the race at fewer than 5% of delegates. Sanders will dominate the north following Super Tuesday. South Carolina is one of Clinton's biggest states - most polls show him pulling decent margins in states like Texas. If he can exceed expectations on Super Tuesday and pull off a win in Oklahoma or Tennessee, he's pretty much locked in. If he meets expectations and loses those states, he still has a great chance - it'd still be a fairly decent tie.
Unless Bernie somehow fails to get Minnesota and other strongholds this Tuesday, he's in the race for a long time still. And every minute he's in the race, he gains more supporters, and Hillary loses them.
Everyone knew SC was going to be a massive loss. It's no surprise at all - he can afford to lose SC by awful margins and still make it up on Super Tuesday and beyond.[/QUOTE]
What exactly do the polls show for the rest of the states on Super Tuesday?
Regardless of how good or bad it looks for Sanders in the long run, if you're of voting age and support him, go vote in your state's primary. It still sends an important message and it will be valuable in 4 years time if Sanders doesn't get the nomination and runs again then.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49826355]Guess he couldn't get the black vote.
The social justice crowd calling him the embodiment of white privilege and the legacy of Bill Clinton were some pretty tough hurdles for Bernie.
Bill hardly even deserves the popularity he has with black people.[/QUOTE]
The guy being taken by the police for protesting segragation the embodyment of white priviledge?
[QUOTE=Killuah;49826647]The guy being taken by the police for protesting segragation the embodyment of white priviledge?[/QUOTE]
Perception always wins over reality.
The Democratic Party is trying very hard to be the "party of the minorities". A party like that cannot have a straight white old male be its candidate for office.
[QUOTE=Killuah;49826647]The guy being taken by the police for protesting segragation the embodyment of white priviledge?[/QUOTE]
Very nonsensical but I highly recommend you Google "Bernie Sanders, White Privilege". Hilary features that as a talking point, Bernie gets yelled at about it by native Americans and BLM advocates, a bazillion articles, etc.
[QUOTE=Ziron;49826620]Sanders winning Tenessee is a [url=http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/tennessee-democratic/]pipe dream[/url] at this point, and Oklahoma is still constested.
He has to win big in Super Tuesday in order to stay competitive, and at this rate, he is not. Read [url]http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bernie-sanders-doesnt-need-momentum-he-needs-to-win-these-states/[/url] for more information.[/QUOTE]
He has to not lose awfully to "win" tuesday. There are a lot of sympathetic states coming up soon where bernie has a good chance of winning.
[QUOTE=DaMastez;49826632]Regardless of how good or bad it looks for Sanders in the long run, if you're of voting age and support him, go vote in your state's primary. It still sends an important message and it will be valuable in 4 years time if Sanders doesn't get the nomination and runs again then.[/QUOTE]
I doubt Sanders will still be able to walk in 4 years time.
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