[quote]In a statement today, AARP Executive Vice President Nancy LeaMond announced AARP’s opposition to the House plan that would make changes to our current health care system, such as shortening the life of Medicare, hiking costs for those who can least afford higher insurance premiums, risking seniors’ ability to live independently, and giving tax breaks to big drug companies and health insurance companies:[/quote]
[url]http://www.aarp.org/politics-society/advocacy/info-2017/aarp-opposes-healthcare-bill.html[/url]
Not surprising. It hugely fucks over the elderly, in particular. Their healthcare costs are expected to rise by about 70% from their current values, based on the [URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-healthcare-plan-worlds-greatest-2017-obamacare-repeal-replace-a7618861.html"]article posted earlier.[/URL]
I mean, there are few winners either way (except the insurance industry, of course), but the elderly are among the biggest losers on this bill, which can be loosely summarized as "Shut Up and Die."
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51934110]Not surprising. It hugely fucks over the elderly, in particular. Their healthcare costs are expected to rise by about 70% from their current values, based on the [URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-healthcare-plan-worlds-greatest-2017-obamacare-repeal-replace-a7618861.html"]article posted earlier.[/URL]
I mean, there are few winners either way (except the insurance industry, of course), but the elderly are among the biggest losers on this bill, which can be loosely summarized as "Shut Up and Die."[/QUOTE]
I have to admit, this part is particularly strange to me because generally if you were to choose a group of people that would stereotypically benefit from Repub. legislature even if no one else would, it's almost always older people. Probably because that's what most of them actually are. But in this case, nope.
It has all the expected bullshit for the expected "undesirable demographics" that they always screw over every chance they get, like the poor and unemployed, to the point of offering plans that DON'T COVER ANYTHING to people, so not only are they selling them insurance they can barely afford, if they actually have to go the hospital for something, it won't cover them. That's how much Republicans hate poor people.
But the elderly? Really? That's odd to me, generally, they pander their blackened, geriatric hearts out to their own stock, but it seems "Shut Up and Die" as you put it isn't even a joke, it's an order. They are being blatantly transparent with their pro-big-corporation motives, at the expense of actual humans, they are going against basically all of them now in one way or another. Repubs usually veil their true intentions behind nice sounding words and feel good measures that make certain people happy but do nothing for everyone else, but with this healthcare bill, their true intentions are so thinly veiled you may as well kiss the bride.
[QUOTE=Xion21;51934186]I have to admit, this part is particularly strange to me because generally if you were to choose a group of people that would stereotypically benefit from Repub. legislature even if no one else would, it's almost always older people. Probably because that's what most of them actually are. But in this case, nope.
It has all the expected bullshit for the expected "undesirable demographics" that they always screw over every chance they get, like the poor and unemployed, to the point of offering plans that DON'T COVER ANYTHING to people, so not only are they selling them insurance they can barely afford, if they actually have to go the hospital for something, it won't cover them. That's how much Republicans hate poor people.
But the elderly? Really? That's odd to me, generally, they pander their blackened, geriatric hearts out to their own stock, but it seems "Shut Up and Die" as you put it isn't even a joke, it's an order. They are being blatantly transparent with their pro-big-corporation motives, at the expense of actual humans, they are going against basically all of them now in one way or another. Repubs usually veil their true intentions behind nice sounding words and feel good measures that make certain people happy but do nothing for everyone else, but with this healthcare bill, their true intentions are so thinly veiled you may as well kiss the bride.[/QUOTE]
That's because the republicans are more thinly veiled than ever, since it's a full republican government. They're going full "Fuck you got mine" mode.
[QUOTE=Xion21;51934186]I have to admit, this part is particularly strange to me because generally if you were to choose a group of people that would stereotypically benefit from Repub. legislature even if no one else would, it's almost always older people. Probably because that's what most of them actually are. But in this case, nope.
It has all the expected bullshit for the expected "undesirable demographics" that they always screw over every chance they get, like the poor and unemployed, to the point of offering plans that DON'T COVER ANYTHING to people, so not only are they selling them insurance they can barely afford, if they actually have to go the hospital for something, it won't cover them. That's how much Republicans hate poor people.
But the elderly? Really? That's odd to me, generally, they pander their blackened, geriatric hearts out to their own stock, but it seems "Shut Up and Die" as you put it isn't even a joke, it's an order. They are being blatantly transparent with their pro-big-corporation motives, at the expense of actual humans, they are going against basically all of them now in one way or another. Repubs usually veil their true intentions behind nice sounding words and feel good measures that make certain people happy but do nothing for everyone else, but with this healthcare bill, their true intentions are so thinly veiled you may as well kiss the bride.[/QUOTE]
It's really just the Republicans rushing out an under-thought, under-planned bill hastily compromised upon between as many Republican caucuses as they can.
Huge hurdles for any Republican replacement plan have been groups like the Freedom Caucus, libertarian-right Republicans who felt the ACA in and of itself was a huge blow to Free Commerce, and essentially can't stomach the idea of "no pre-existing conditions," the one hugely popular cornerstone of the ACA that is virtually non-controversial outside of that particular sphere.
This is their compromise. "No pre-existing" stays in, but the insurance companies get to tighten the screws as hard as they need to because, "free market."
It directly and tremendously, and absolutely transparently, screws over one of the Republican's biggest and most loyal voter bases, so we'll have to see how this plays out.
As they say, "it's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off."
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51934193]That's because the republicans are more thinly veiled than ever, since it's a full republican government. They're going full "Fuck you got mine" mode.[/QUOTE]
This sort of thinking dramatically undersells, underestimates and undervalues the Republican party, both as an obstacle and as a group of equal political peers.
I won't deny the Republicans are [I]clearly[/I] playing partisan hardball, but the Democrats have, and if they had the wheel, would be too. That's the brass tacks of politics. If we wish to understand how certain things happen, predict future things, and wish to have any rational understanding of the world beyond, "the people I don't like are bad guys," then we absolutely must do our best to look deeper when we can.
They should run a mail campaign to raise awareness; AARP certainly has the resources to do so.
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Stop fucking sending me mail, AARP. I'm not even 30 yet.
The elderly don't care either. I'm betting most of them don't even know this is happening. They'll continue to blindly vote republican because old people hate change, including changing opinions. Like Chonch said AARP could do a lot of damage to republicans if they were to run some sort of information or smear campaign.
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