• Pakistani railways minister puts $100,000 bounty on Nakoula Basseley Nakoula's head
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[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19687386[/url] [quote=BBC News][B]A Pakistani government minister has offered a $100,000 reward for the death of the maker of an anti-Islam film produced in the US.[/B] Railways Minister Ghulam Ahmad Bilour told the Associated Press (AP) that he would pay the reward for the "sacred duty" out of his own pocket. He suggested the Taliban and al-Qaeda would be eligible for the reward. His comments came a day after at least 20 people died in clashes between anti-film protesters and police. The violence occurred in cities throughout the country, with Karachi and Peshawar among the worst hit. The film, denigrating Islam's Prophet Muhammad, has sparked violent protests throughout the Muslim world in recent weeks. Scores of people were reported to have been injured on Saturday in a clash in Bangladesh's capital Dhaka between police and hundreds of demonstrators. AP reports that police fired tear gas and used batons to disperse stone-throwing protesters who set several vehicles alight. [B]In hiding[/B] The exact origins of Innocence of Muslims, the low-budget film that has prompted the unrest, are unclear. The alleged producer of the trailer of the film, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, is in hiding. Anti-US sentiment grew after a trailer for the film dubbed into Arabic was released on YouTube earlier this month. US citizens have been urged not to travel to Pakistan and the US embassy has paid for adverts on Pakistani TV showing President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton condemning the film. Although US targets have borne the brunt of protests against the film, anti-Western sentiment has been stoked further by caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad published this week in the satirical French magazine, Charlie Hebdo. France shut embassies and other missions in about 20 countries across the Muslim world on Friday.[/quote]
Religion of peace.
Hypocrisy to the max.
pakistan biggest shithole
Lets prove to them that we're not what the film says we are by doing exactly what the film says we are. Logic where art thou?
I didn't realize how accurate the movie is until now.
So is that his department's annual budget?
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;37760551]Religion of peace.[/QUOTE] There needs to be some kind of secret UN squad of assassins that puts an end to people making such inane platitudes before any more innocent people can be subjected to them.
Have to look at the bright side of this - They seem to be going after only the producer. I'm thankful that they're not targeting the actors who had no idea that they were doing this.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;37760551]Religion of peace.[/QUOTE] Really sad to see these assholes make other Muslims look bad. I know some in real life who are some of the nicest people you could know. Try and remember Islam has over a Billion and half members but is the state religion of many backwards countries such as Pakistan. Do you ever see Turks do shit like this? It's not the Religion that makes people horrible but the people who teach them it.
[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;37761505]Really sad to see these assholes make other Muslims look bad. I know some in real life who are some of the nicest people you could know. Try and remember Islam has over a Billion and half members but is the state religion of many backwards countries such as Pakistan. Do you ever see Turks do shit like this? It's not the Religion that makes people horrible but the people who teach them it.[/QUOTE] If I remember correctly, the biggest population of Muslims on the planet is in Indonesia. And I've yet to hear about Indonesia at all in any of this. So yeah, the squeaky wheel gets the attention.
And why is US still Allies with Pakistan?
[QUOTE=shian;37761709]And why is US still Allies with Pakistan?[/QUOTE] Because of Afghanistan and Iran.
[QUOTE=shian;37761709]And why is US still Allies with Pakistan?[/QUOTE] Small Taliban groups operate in Pakistan.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;37761743]Because of Afghanistan and Iran.[/QUOTE] Well they could still go with India instead. I mean Pakistan supplies the freaking taliban and yet they are also getting bombed by the same taliban.
[QUOTE=shian;37761821]Well they could still go with India instead. I mean Pakistan supplies the freaking taliban and yet they are also getting bombed by the same taliban.[/QUOTE] Then it would asking "Why are we allies with India" and the answer would be, "Because of Afghanistan, Iran, and Pakistan". Moment we switch to India, the moment Pakistan swit-....goes all the way, to the other side.
[QUOTE=shian;37761821]Well they could still go with India instead. [/QUOTE] India refused to be the bitch of US from the beginning of cold war. It refused to take sides. Then came Pakistan with its glorious leader offering US base right in their land. Now US is stuck with Pakistan because of the mutual secrets they share which can be quite revealing if the relationship breaks. Taliban's inception was a shared effort and overlooking the consequences.
[QUOTE=shian;37761821]Well they could still go with India instead. I mean Pakistan supplies the freaking taliban and yet they are also getting bombed by the same taliban.[/QUOTE] I don't understand, why would they want to ally with India? The Taliban are in Pakistan, not India, it just seems like trying to sort out the Mexican drug cartels by allying with Canada
fringe islam needs to stop embarassing islam islam for the sake of islam as a whole
[QUOTE=Mon;37763019]fringe islam needs to stop embarassing islam islam for the sake of islam as a whole[/QUOTE] No. Islam Islam needs to stand up and assert their alleged majority over the crazy ones. Guilt by association is a very common thing in the west. If someone is drunk as fuck at a party, you can be charged with reckless endangerment by allowing him to drive home. By doing nothing, they are in many ways guilty of related crimes to the offenses against human rights that the raging psychopaths continue to encourage.
[QUOTE=Mon;37763019]fringe islam needs to stop embarassing islam islam for the sake of islam as a whole[/QUOTE] actually those in the fringe are "true muslims", the rest of them are just a bunch of half-weight dongs. Like the the majority of christians who ignore the lesser-known awfulness of the bible. Anyways, how is the US supposed to respond to a member of the Pakistani government putting a bounty on presumably a US citizen?
[QUOTE=Lamar;37763169]Anyways, how is the US supposed to respond to a member of the Pakistani government putting a bounty on presumably a US citizen?[/QUOTE] Full-scale war.
[QUOTE=Lamar;37763169] Anyways, how is the US supposed to respond to a member of the Pakistani government putting a bounty on presumably a US citizen?[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://facepunch.com/image.php?u=7513&dateline=1331757436[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Lamar;37763169] Anyways, how is the US supposed to respond to a member of the Pakistani government putting a bounty on presumably a US citizen?[/QUOTE] The US government obviously should put a higher bounty on the person that kills Nakoula. [editline]1[/editline] Or just don't react at all.
[QUOTE=shian;37761821]Well they could still go with India instead. I mean Pakistan supplies the freaking taliban and yet they are also getting bombed by the same taliban.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/FC1dw.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/zThBu.gif[/IMG] Which do you think is a better option? [QUOTE=fritzel;37762963]India refused to be the bitch of US from the beginning of cold war. It refused to take sides. [/QUOTE] India was russia's bitch at that time, thats why they didnt support any form of mujahideen action against them. [quote=wikipedia on soviet war]India, a close ally of the Soviet Union, refused to support the Afghan war[/quote]
There is also the fact Pakistan's government would rather crawl into a ball and die then go to India for help on anything.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;37763081]No. Islam Islam needs to stand up and assert their alleged majority over the crazy ones. Guilt by association is a very common thing in the west. If someone is drunk as fuck at a party, you can be charged with reckless endangerment by allowing him to drive home. By doing nothing, they are in many ways guilty of related crimes to the offenses against human rights that the raging psychopaths continue to encourage.[/QUOTE] That would be kind of hard to do with out a centralized leadership, and assuming that all "Muslims" are one cohesive blob. I mean why should they stand up, really? A Muslim in Turkey really has nothing to do with the actions of a Muslim in Pakistan beyond their common religious ties, much as a Catholic in Italy would with a Catholic in Nigeria. Should one be told to "apologize" or reign in the others they have no control over? I mean, by your logic I should be telling Americans to own up to the wars started by the previous administration because they are "American", Baptists over the evangelical nutties, Catholics over some priests, etc... For whose benefit in the end? Just to make some other people feel comfortable? There's literally nothing in it for them. Hey, some users on facepunch are bitching about you, please make them feel better! As for this politician, it should be noted that his party (Awami National Party) and the leading group in the cabinet (Pakistani People's Party) have criticized him for those comments. They can't really act against him though without someone among the notables (tribal chiefs, clerics, warlords) interpreting as yet another example of the government taking orders from Washington and causing more violence on the streets. I mean, it's not like the US was simply burdened by this movie already. Anti-US sentiment already exists due to the perceived responsibility the US has in the corruption in the country, in having the country involve itself in efforts in Afghanistan which they had no interest in, drone operations, etc. all generally feeding towards the idea that Islamabad is following diktats from Washington. Again, this is the perception there, the reality is more complex. But it's an easy sentiment to exploit and further violence there when most people just know of these things from what they read or hear locally. Just looking at the ongoing war in the northwest, we have: 3,946 security forces members killed Over 3.44 million civilians displaced 40,309 total killed Yeah it's not really a climate you want to exacerbate.
[QUOTE=C47;37770603] India was russia's bitch at that time, thats why they didnt support any form of mujahideen action against them.[/QUOTE] Here we go. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOEUkWqZhfA[/url]
Does anyone have a link to the video?
[QUOTE=C47;37770603][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/FC1dw.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/zThBu.gif[/IMG] Which do you think is a better option? [/QUOTE] Btw Pakistan in control of whole area is mainly punjab. Taliban is a creation of Pakistan and the Frankenstein is attaching it's own creator now. And guess whose money was channeled into it's creation ? Myopic goals yields disastrous results. Your map is slightly incorrect that it doesn't include the Taliban in Pakistan which is supported by ISI (Pakistan's intelligence agency). [IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_H6XW_a4TYus/Sg2o32uIW3I/AAAAAAAAAxI/SbywUBbIRig/s400/taliban+in+pakistan+map.bmp[/IMG]
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