Jehovah's Witnesses: Not our responsibility to report child sex abuse to police unless mandatory rep - Polidicks

[URL]http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/04/11/20/59/jehovah-s-witnesses-stay-in-line-on-abuse[/URL] [QUOTE]Jehovah's Witnesses say it is not their responsibility to report child sex abuse to police unless mandatory reporting legislation is in place. A Victorian inquiry on Thursday heard that when a Jehovah's Witness leader hears allegations of abuse they are directed immediately to contact the society's legal department to check their obligations under state law. Jehovah's Witness legal counsel Rachel van Witsen said elders were not expected to know their legal obligations. "This is done to ensure elders fully comply with any legal requirements that may be applicable in the state in which they reside," she said. "In Victoria if there was mandatory reporting the immediate advice would be to report that immediately." The society's director Terrence O'Brien said the decision to take the allegations to police lay with the victim. "Without mandatory reporting we don't feel that as ministers of religion that's our obligation to do that," Mr O'Brien said. However, the organisation would encourage the victim to report it and would co-operate fully with police, he said. Ms van Witsen said elders would make an exception if they felt the child was threatened. "We would report that to appropriate authorities," she told the inquiry. "We're about stopping child abuse."[/QUOTE]

... Right. They're about stopping child abuse, but they won't say anything unless they have to?

The fuck...

There actually is a law. Its called aiding a criminal if you don't report it.

[quote]"Without mandatory reporting we don't feel that as ministers of religion that's our obligation to do that,"[/quote] Motherfuckers. Can't believe that these guys are such shut-ins.

[del]This is why[/del]This of one of the reasons I hate my grandparents. (My mother's father is an elder.)

"We won't be helpful citizens unless someone makes us." That's the excuse a child uses on why he didn't clean his room.

Just what I would expect from a door to door knocker

"It's not our responsibility to be of any worth to the rest of society whatsoever."

[QUOTE=The Baconator;40245162]Just what I would expect from a door to door knocker[/QUOTE] It's what you'd expect of the elders, not the regular knockers. Your 'average' JW is not actually a bad person.

[QUOTE=Lolx0rz;40245186]It's what you'd expect of the elders, not the regular knockers. Your 'average' JW is not actually a bad person.[/QUOTE] In my area I would definitely have to disagree with that. The JWs that I've dealt with are almost universally slime balls.

Pull all their social benefits. If they don't want to be part of society, let them try it on their own.

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;40245223]In my area I would definitely have to disagree with that. The JWs that I've dealt with are almost universally slime balls.[/QUOTE] Where you at?

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;40245223]In my area I would definitely have to disagree with that. The JWs that I've dealt with are almost universally slime balls.[/QUOTE] i know a girl who is JW and she's really nice i guess the important thing to remember is that people member of X thing are not a hivemind

[quote]Jehovah's Witness legal counsel Rachel van Witsen said elders were not expected to know their legal obligations.[/quote] Are you fucking kidding me

It's not being a helpful citizen if someone is twisting your arm to make you do it.

I don't understand their reasoning

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40245225]Pull all their social benefits. If they don't want to be part of society, let them try it on their own.[/QUOTE] They still have to "bleed the beast" though! It's the only way they can kill their evil country! Read about the FLDS and how they think that by taking welfare payments from their country, that they are helping to kill it.

[QUOTE=elevate;40245446]They still have to "bleed the beast" though! It's the only way they can kill the evil United States![/QUOTE] This happened in Australia.

[QUOTE=Lolx0rz;40245452]This happened in Australia.[/QUOTE] Well excuse me.

Not doing anything about a crime means you could be prosecuted, in England anyway - it's called an ommission.

i was raised jehovah's witness. they are bad, crazy people with crazy beliefs. [editline]11th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Bobie;40245253]i know a girl who is JW and she's really nice i guess the important thing to remember is that people member of X thing are not a hivemind[/QUOTE] they try their hardest to make it a hivemind though. it's literally a cult that tries to isolate its members by saying everything else on earth is run by satan.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;40246748]i was raised jehovah's witness. they are bad, crazy people with crazy beliefs. [editline]11th April 2013[/editline] they try their hardest to make it a hivemind though. it's literally a cult that tries to isolate its members by saying everything else on earth is run by satan.[/QUOTE] What was it that you hated the most?

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;40247204]What was it that you hated the most?[/QUOTE] idk. one of the weirder things was that my mom didn't want me to watch anything dealing with ghosts or the supernatural because she was convinced that ghost sightings are actually demons

[QUOTE=TheHydra;40247222]idk. one of the weirder things was that my mom didn't want me to watch anything dealing with ghosts or the supernatural because she was convinced that ghost sightings are actually demons[/QUOTE] Make a thread on the life of a jw? I'd honestly read it...

If you dont report this stuff, you are the scum of the earth without doubt. Sex Crimes and Crime Against Children really get my blood going.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;40246748] they try their hardest to make it a hivemind though. it's literally a cult that tries to isolate its members by saying everything else on earth is run by satan.[/QUOTE] I had a mate who was being raised a Jo-ho, one of the best friends i ever had. that was untill his mum started literally indoctrinating him. like, she had taken him out of science and RE lessons before- but now she was out right punnishing him for doing anything that might give him an outsiders perspective on his beliefs. he got in shit for things like, watching nature shows, or talking to people who werent part of "the truth". in the end i literally had to stop talking to him, because he got to the point where he was constantly trying to debate evolution with me, only to accuse me of attacking his religion afterwards .

Anybody who thinks that its not their responsibility to report the sexual abuse of a minor can fuck right off. That is [b]always[/b] your responsibility, Jehovah's Witness or not.

To be honest I can't even see what could possibly be gained from this, it's just such a bemusing decision.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40245225]Pull all their social benefits. If they don't want to be part of society, let them try it on their own.[/QUOTE] Wait, they get social benefits? Like what?