• Inmate in California prison found nearly cut in half with his organs missing and body folded and stu
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[QUOTE]SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Nearly 15 hours after a riot at a Northern California prison, guards found a missing inmate sawed nearly in two, with his abdominal organs and most chest organs removed, his body folded and stuffed into a garbage can in a shower stall a few doors from his cell. Details of the gruesome May killing at the medium-security California State Prison, Solano, are laid out in an autopsy report obtained by The Associated Press under a public records request. The grisly discovery raises obvious questions about the prison's security: How could such a gruesome killing happen inside a locked facility with security and surveillance? How could someone obtain weapons sharp enough to dissect a body? And why did it take so long to uncover? Homicides are distressingly common in California prisons. More than 160 inmates have been killed in the last 15 years, and the state has one of the nation's highest inmate homicide rates. Yet the death of 24-year-old Nicholas Anthony Rodriguez stands out. Rodriguez's missing organs are "still part of the investigation" at the prison in Vacaville, 40 miles southwest of Sacramento, Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation spokeswoman Terry Thornton said Friday.[/QUOTE] [url]http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d7fdf6346d25420880acd75a0fc071ac/ap-exclusive-inmate-was-cut-nearly-two-organs-missing[/url]
[i]What the mother fuck.[/i] WHY. [editline]boop[/editline] That's so unbelievably fucked up.
jesus fucking christ it scares me to think what would happen to those organs in a prison like that
Life Without Parole: Living in Prison Today, is a good book about the inner machinations of prisons. Y'all should read it.
Remind me never to do anything illegal in California. I mean, anywhere, but especially California. [quote]Rodriguez had alcohol in his system and was dead before he was eviscerated, killed by blows to the head that left him with a deep star-shaped wound on his forehead among his multiple skull fractures, cuts and other wounds, according to the May 27 autopsy report conducted by the Solano County Sheriff coroner's office.[/quote] At least it seems like he died before he had his organs ripped out. I wonder how many Americans support prison reform. Because we seriously have a really shitty prison system.
but why?
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;48167776]but why?[/QUOTE] Because prison is absolutely fucked.
this most've been a guy who pissed someone off badly.
only thing i can think of the organs being used for is, uhh, cannibalism or ritualism
America needs to figure itself out. The fact that prison breeds life-long criminals is one thing, but the fact that someone can be ripped in half with organs missing is downright stupid.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;48168138]only thing i can think of the organs being used for is, uhh, cannibalism or ritualism[/QUOTE] considering how large smuggling is in the prison system, I would think that whoever dissected the prisoner was planning on sending the organs out in return for drugs or other shit
[QUOTE=Native Hunter;48168310]considering how large smuggling is in the prison system, I would think that whoever dissected the prisoner was planning on sending the organs out in return for drugs or other shit[/QUOTE] Or logically, considering how insanely difficult organ transplant is in hospital settings let alone a prison, it was taken to scare and send a messsge to any allies or just guards.
Something tells me surveillance in this prison leaves a little something to be desired.
How can you do this to another human being?
[QUOTE=zeroXSBK;48168612]Something tells me surveillance in this prison leaves a little something to be desired.[/QUOTE] Every prison has blinds spots. It's not by accident either. Guards use them to abuse inmates.
[QUOTE=Native Hunter;48168310]considering how large smuggling is in the prison system, I would think that whoever dissected the prisoner was planning on sending the organs out in return for drugs or other shit[/QUOTE] Organs don't work that way, Hollywood is very bad at getting this
Without an organ cooler that shit will go bad real fast. Even if you had one you still only have hours to work with it.
[QUOTE=kila58;48176080]Without an organ cooler that shit will go bad real fast. Even if you had one you still only have hours to work with it.[/QUOTE] And that's if you don't drop it. [video=youtube;lJ3AQ5rTqB8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ3AQ5rTqB8[/video] But on a slightly more serious note, although this might be an unpopular opinion, aren't the guards ultimately responsible? I mean, the prisoners don't exactly have a choice in being there, and in most situations if you force someone into a situation without a means for them to get out of it themselves, isn't the person who put them in that situation responsible? Yeah sure they are there through there own fault, but it's not their fault that they are there [I]with some other psycho[/I]?
[QUOTE=teh pirate;48168855]How can you do this to another human being?[/QUOTE] You can do many things that are amoral if you put your mind to it and persuade yourself to think that 'they deserve it' or 'Well, he's dead, might as well make use of what is left' Your mind can persuade itself that pretty heinous crimes are 'eh' if you work your way up from what I have observed. "Well there is a phone laying there on the floor off the bar.. I doubt the person will miss it.. I could do with the cash" then its "That cash register has been left open, the guy seems busy serving drinks, I doubt they will miss a few notes.." then its shaking down drunk people in the road where they cant think for themselves and are semi-unconscious "They will just think they spent it or lost it..." and it just escalates from there as you become more desensitized to it. At least, that is the way I see how these people end up doing things like that...
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48176594]I'm not entirely sure petty thievery can escalate to mutilating another human being, but that's just me.[/QUOTE] It's more of a long term thing... sure some people jump the crowd due to mental illness or disturbing upbringing, but the majority of it is desensitization. If you keep doing small things, it becomes the norm and you are less resistant to going towards the next stage.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;48168160]America needs to figure itself out. The fact that prison breeds life-long criminals is one thing, but the fact that someone can be ripped in half with organs missing is downright stupid.[/QUOTE] Prison breeds lifelong criminals and states literally have prisoner quotas due to the influence of private prisons. Shits fucked. [url]http://rt.com/usa/private-prison-lockup-quota-108/[/url]
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48176651]Prison breeds lifelong criminals and states literally have prisoner quotas due to the influence of private prisons. Shits fucked. [url]http://rt.com/usa/private-prison-lockup-quota-108/[/url][/QUOTE] While our prisons do need reform, RT isn't a good source for this. It's the mouth of the Kremlin under the guise of a News company.
[QUOTE=teh pirate;48168855]How can you do this to another human being?[/QUOTE] Some people don't have a conscience. Many of these people end up in prison.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48176594]I'm not entirely sure petty thievery can escalate to mutilating another human being, but that's just me.[/QUOTE] Some people's heads operate differently than the average person's. Some people simply don't feel empathy or have developed the ability to ignore those emotions.
[QUOTE=teh pirate;48168855]How can you do this to another human being?[/QUOTE] They've already made it to prison, they're not exactly very concerned about their fellow human being.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;48167776]but why?[/QUOTE] Why do we have a shitty prison system? Here's why: I'm the average taxpayer. Tell me why MY tax money should be spent on helping a criminal have a better life when no one is paying for my law abiding kid to have a better life. So I have to pay for the criminal's job training/healthcare/education AND my own kids' needs too? They broke the law and somehow you want them to get some kind of reward for that? Keep in mind the average taxpayer doesn't see the long term. Fewer people in prison and more people working higher paying jobs saves money in the long run but try convincing Americans of that. Good luck!
Local news is saying it was the cell mate that did it. Also keep in mind this was during a riot. Not just a normal day in prison. [URL="http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Grisly-Solano-prison-slaying-Oakland-man-cut-6378311.php"]http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Grisly-Solano-prison-slaying-Oakland-man-cut-6378311.php[/URL]
Jesus, this is some pre-Elizabeth Fry stuff. Why not create more jobs and promote infrastructure by building more prisons? [editline]11th July 2015[/editline] Or perhaps try and figure out why so many people are in prison in the USA.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;48180518]Jesus, this is some pre-Elizabeth Fry stuff. Why not create more jobs and promote infrastructure by building more prisons? [editline]11th July 2015[/editline] Or perhaps try and figure out why so many people are in prison in the USA.[/QUOTE] Because somewhere along the line, it was decided that it was a good idea to allow private corporations to handle civilian imprisonment. Unfortunately, they tend to have a lot more influence and leeway with the law than you'd expect; human rights aren't really existent inside most US prisons. Like someone said, they're less rehabilitation facilities and more of "lets just keep these people in here as de facto slaves"
Prisons cost money, which is not something the public wants to spend on criminals. Also, WHERE do you build these prisons? "Not in my backyard" is the objection from the public. If you build the prisons way out in the middle of nowhere, then the gains to infrastructure and employment are minimized. Asking why so many are in prison is a touchy subject. Then you get into things like poverty, lack of opportunity, racism...all things Americans do not want to discuss in relation to crime. Americans believe it's up to YOU, and only you, to decide if you're going to break the law or not, there are no other factors involved. The last thing the public wants to address is the reality that circumstances can make criminals out of anyone.
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