Western official: Israel is behind recent Iran explosion - Polidicks

[release] [img]http://www.stopfundamentalism.com/images/stories/irgc/iran_explosion.jpg[/img] [B]Western intelligence source tells Time Magazine that he believes the Mossad was responsible for deadly blast near Tehran which killed key figure in Iran's missile program.[/B] Israel stands behind the recent explosion at an Iran missile base, a Western intelligence source told Time Magazine on Sunday. "Don't believe the Iranians that it was an accident," the Western official told Time, insisting that widespread assumptions that Israel's Mossad was responsible for Saturday's blast, which killed 17 and wounded 15, were correct. The official also said that more plans to sabotage Iran's nuclear program exist, telling Time, "There are more bullets in the magazine." The massive explosion at the military arms depot near Tehran killed a Revolutionary Guard commander who was a key figure in Iran's missile program. Gen. Hasan Moghaddam was killed together with 16 other Guard members Saturday at a military site outside Bidganeh village, 40 kilometers southwest of Tehran. The Guard said the accidental explosion occurred while military personnel were transporting munitions.[/release] [URL="http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/western-official-israel-is-behind-recent-iran-explosion-1.395512"]Source[/URL] This sounds kind of probable. Mossad have been targeting Iran's nuclear and aerospace engineers for awhile, and a university professor connected to the Iranian missile program was killed in the blast. Oh and its Israel.

Probably probable, but at this point, Iran is probably just wanting any reason to wave the blame stick at Israel. Just remember, anyone could be trying to frame Israel to spark a war, or even Iran detonated those munitions just to blame Israel so Iran can preemptively attack without looking like the bad guy.

I'm so shocked.

"Western intel" is kind of ambiguous. Do we know who exactly made the claim? It seems to conflict with the way the US supports Israel, so I'm curious. However, "Western intel" intel typically manages to be pretty accurate on issues like this, and I'm sure we'd know by now if Iran blew its own shit up (that's hard to hide from an investigation).

Oh god don't start a war please :'(

[QUOTE=Amplar;33292997]Probably probable, but at this point, Iran is probably just wanting any reason to wave the blame stick at Israel. Just remember, anyone could be trying to frame Israel to spark a war, or even Iran detonated those munitions just to blame Israel so Iran can preemptively attack without looking like the bad guy.[/QUOTE] The Iranian official statement was that it was a accident.. also why would they blow up a chunk of their long range capable missiles just to kill a Iranian scientist/university professor. Doubt its Iran framing Israel.

Espionage escalation, whoo. I wouldn't trust anyone in this over whose fault it is. Iran has plenty of reasons to say it was an accident rather than espionage, the "source" could very well just be talking shit or they could be reasonable and it's the media that's distorting it and making it sound stupid.

As much as this wouldn't surprise me, I think it's still too early to make any judgments.

I honestly hope they start a war and the rest of the world is wise enough to sit back and watch them burn. Sorry but I'm kind of fed up with all this squabbling over some stupid land just because a few ancient con man books say it's worth something That or both countries wake up to the stupidity of it

[QUOTE]The official also said that more plans to sabotage Iran's nuclear program exist, telling Time, "There are more bullets in the magazine."[/QUOTE] Ok that's badass.

[QUOTE=doonbugie2;33293074]The Iranian official statement was that it was a accident.. also why would they blow up a chunk of their long range capable missiles just to kill a Iranian scientist/university professor. Doubt its Iran framing Israel.[/QUOTE] I agree, surely if they were trying to frame Israel they would have done something less damaging to themselves, and accused them of it instead of admitting(?) it was an accident.

[QUOTE=thrawn2787;33293366]I honestly hope they start a war and the rest of the world is wise enough to sit back and watch them burn. Sorry but I'm kind of fed up with all this squabbling over some stupid land just because a few ancient con man books say it's worth something That or both countries wake up to the stupidity of it[/QUOTE] so basically you hope millions of people die you are a terrible person

There won't be a war with Iran, only covert operations and military strike.

Mossad is known to be responsible for pulling off COD-esq missions just like this, and it wouldn't be surprised if they were behind it.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;33293453]Ok that's badass.[/QUOTE] Still not as bad ass as this, they're having a midbattle interview and then the guy looks up and they're fucking surrounded with Iraqi tanks. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmo04Nw5Vdg[/media] This is also why invasion might not work, a massive militia force.

If Israel is doing this, can someone explain to me WHY they are doing this? Why can't Iran have a missile program? Why would Iran want to frame Israel for this, surely Israel has a much bigger army and the support of the US.

[QUOTE=Lazor;33293670]so basically you hope millions of people die you are a terrible person[/QUOTE] Yup

Israel! What are you doing?!?!?!

As much as I think/know Israel is trying to start a war, I'm skeptical of this. More sources would be helpful. Here, I found one. [url]http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2011/1114/Did-Israel-assassinate-Iran-s-missile-king[/url]

"christian science monitor" sounds reliable

Oh Israel, what will you do next!

[QUOTE=IceBlizzard;33294003]If Israel is doing this, can someone explain to me WHY they are doing this? Why can't Iran have a missile program? Why would Iran want to frame Israel for this, surely Israel has a much bigger army and the support of the US.[/QUOTE] Because long range missiles are what allow them to launch a missile strike directly at Israel. Two crucial parts to a nuclear missile are the nuclear part and the missile part, stopping either is beneficial. The want to stop it for the same reason the Cold War happened, if they do get it then going down the military road leads to an incredibly fucked up scenario for both. They don't want Tel Aviv to become another Hiroshima and even if the first strike comes from Iran, it's still shit.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;33295534]Because long range missiles are what allow them to launch a missile strike directly at Israel. Two crucial parts to a nuclear missile are the nuclear part and the missile part, stopping either is beneficial. The want to stop it for the same reason the Cold War happened, if they do get it then going down the military road leads to an incredibly fucked up scenario for both. They don't want Tel Aviv to become another Hiroshima and even if the first strike comes from Iran, it's still shit.[/QUOTE] Doesn't Israel have all of those things, including hunderds of nukes, what makes them different from Iran? I think they have the right to own nukes like everyone else does, if Iran will be sanctioned more then it shouldn't only be against Iran but a whole lot of other unstable countries that own nukes, if Israel bombs everything in Iran that has to do with a missile or nuclear program then I don't see how it will be tolerated by the world.

[QUOTE=IceBlizzard;33295748]Doesn't Israel have all of those things, including hunderds of nukes, what makes them different from Iran? I think they have the right to own nukes like everyone else does, if Iran will be sanctioned more then it shouldn't only be against Iran but a whole lot of other unstable countries that own nukes, if Israel bombs everything in Iran that has to do with a missile or nuclear program then I don't see how it will be tolerated by the world.[/QUOTE] Because the US and Israel have a relationship, even if an odd one

[QUOTE=IceBlizzard;33295748]Doesn't Israel have all of those things, including hunderds of nukes, what makes them different from Iran? I think they have the right to own nukes like everyone else does, if Iran will be sanctioned more then it shouldn't only be against Iran but a whole lot of other unstable countries that own nukes, if Israel bombs everything in Iran that has to do with a missile or nuclear program then I don't see how it will be tolerated by the world.[/QUOTE] What makes them different is that they already have those weapons and you can't really stop development on something that is already developed. Along with that they are an ally of most large powers rather than a rogue state. Hell, Pakistan is fucking crazy and they've got nukes, not a lot we can do about that though is there? It would be bad if Israel bombed Iran obviously, but they can already do that and no amount of sanctions is going to take that away. All this equal rights stuff is bullshit anyway, if you're pointing a gun at someone do you just let them get a gun too because that would be fair?

[QUOTE=thrawn2787;33294863]"christian science monitor" sounds reliable[/QUOTE] The Christian Science Monitor is actually a very reliable source.

[QUOTE=thrawn2787;33294863]"christian science monitor" sounds reliable[/QUOTE] It actually is pretty credible. Don't let the name or the fact that a church is running it misguide you. Apparently NPR likes them quite a bit.

Did Time include anywhere who this source was or at least something more specific? We get enough "foreign policy experts" in the media like John Bolton so...

I didn't say they weren't, it's just the name that doesn't make it seem that way. It was meant to be funny not to discredit them