• Escaped Lynx captured after killing four lambs
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'Escaped lynx from Dartmoor Zoo is finally captured with a trap after killing four lambs' [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/31/escaped-lynx-from-dartmoor-zoo-is-finally-captured-with-a-trap-a/?campaign_id=A100&campaign_type=Email[/url] The 2-year-old Carpathian Lynx, Flaviu, dug his way out of Dartmoor Zoological Park three weeks ago, mere hours after his arrival at the park.
What, they didn't put an extra five feet of wall on the enclosure? I thought that was standard practice with most zoos. :what:
Because remember people, they want to reintroduce these to keep the deer population under control. Why would they hunt fast deer when they can grab livestock. Energy expenditure to energy gain.
[QUOTE=dunkace;50805127]Because remember people, they want to reintroduce these to keep the deer population under control. Why would they hunt fast deer when they can grab livestock. Energy expenditure to energy gain.[/QUOTE] Why use the Lynx when we can reintroduce Wolves instead, I don't remember the Lynx being native here? I might be wrong though whilst the Wolf was.
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;50805280]Why use the Lynx when we can reintroduce Wolves instead, I don't remember the Lynx being native here? I might be wrong though whilst the Wolf was.[/QUOTE] Atleast in scotland they want to reintroduce it. the wolf as well. Though wolves can do a hell of a lot more damage.
[QUOTE=dunkace;50805127]Because remember people, they want to reintroduce these to keep the deer population under control. Why would they hunt fast deer when they can grab livestock. Energy expenditure to energy gain.[/QUOTE] Can't we just use hunters to keep the population under control?
[QUOTE=Annoyed Grunt;50805593]Can't we just use hunters to keep the population under control?[/QUOTE] That may require adjustments to firearms laws. We do that over here in America where deer hunting is a hobby, but of course anyone with a clean record, enough money, and valid ID/citizenship can waltz into any half-decent gun shop, buy a 30-06, 12 gauge, .308 or Mosin and go straight into the woods to bag a couple.
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;50805280]Why use the Lynx when we can reintroduce Wolves instead, I don't remember the Lynx being native here? I might be wrong though whilst the Wolf was.[/QUOTE] It was, we had a subspecies of the Eurasian Lynx, got eradicated with the rest of our predators. The reasoning behind introducing the Lynx again is that, unlike Wolves, it poses no significant risk to humans. [editline]31st July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Annoyed Grunt;50805593]Can't we just use hunters to keep the population under control?[/QUOTE] Simple answer - not really. Would require far too intense an effort to actually be really viable. Most places that practice hunting as a form of population control also have predators controlling the population as well. [editline]31st July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=dunkace;50805127]Because remember people, they want to reintroduce these to keep the deer population under control. Why would they hunt fast deer when they can grab livestock. Energy expenditure to energy gain.[/QUOTE] Well, the areas they want to reintroduce them to have far more deer than sheep, you eat what's available. Sure, they'll spread, and some sheep will be taken, but I imagine their will be reimbursement schemes and if the population does really well, control licenses issued before. (Not exactly a new idea, we did this with the White Tailed Sea Eagle, too) Shit man, Norway and Sweden etc deal with this issue just fine. UK ecology is pretty fucked without any top predators, we need to do something. My biggest problem with it is that the estates in Scotland are righteous cunts about slaughtering endangered and recovering species because "Muh grouse" (ignoring that their population issues are cyclical dynamics from the absurd densities that they stock them at causing disease and stress on the birds), that any Lynx that is reintroduced will end up dead within a week.
[QUOTE=TestECull;50805708]That may require adjustments to firearms laws. We do that over here in America where deer hunting is a hobby, but of course anyone with a clean record, enough money, and valid ID/citizenship can waltz into any half-decent gun shop, buy a 30-06, 12 gauge, .308 or Mosin and go straight into the woods to bag a couple.[/QUOTE] Not as much of an adjustment as you'd expect. The problem is more that acquiring a hunting license (so you can legally own and use hunting rifles and hunting shotguns) is a bit confusing and contradictionary, but still a very good idea because it also hammers safety and good practice regarding handling of firearms and hunting in general into the heads of those wishing to go hunting. So The problem is more that it should be streamlined and updated so people acquiring a hunting license still learn what they're required to by law and what's considered good practice, without getting all confused and thus failing the 'exam' required as a final step.
[QUOTE=Van-man;50805731]Not as much of an adjustment as you'd expect. The problem is more that acquiring a hunting license (so you can legally own and use hunting rifles and hunting shotguns) is a bit confusing and contradictionary, but still a very good idea because it also hammers safety and good practice regarding handling of firearms and hunting in general into the heads of those wishing to go hunting. So The problem is more that it should be streamlined and updated so people acquiring a hunting license still learn what they need by law and what's considered good practice, without getting all confused.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I should point out that in the UK there is already ways to acquire firearms licenses for the purposes of hunting, this avenue already exists. It's not even a particularly difficult process, just time consuming as you have to be able to demonstrate that you can safely store your guns and pay for it.
[QUOTE=Van-man;50805731]Not as much of an adjustment as you'd expect. The problem is more that acquiring a hunting license (so you can legally own and use hunting rifles and hunting shotguns) is a bit confusing and contradictionary, but still a very good idea because it also hammers safety and good practice regarding handling of firearms and hunting in general into the heads of those wishing to go hunting. So The problem is more that it should be streamlined and updated so people acquiring a hunting license still learn what they're required to by law and what's considered good practice, without getting all confused and thus failing the 'exam' required as a final step.[/QUOTE] Hmm. Wouldn't actually be a bad idea to attach a license like that to firearms here, just in general. Make sure people buying them can safely handle them. Might be the compromise we need between the gun-totin' right and the gun-bannin' left to get that debate the hell out of our heads.
[QUOTE=TestECull;50805708]That may require adjustments to firearms laws. We do that over here in America where deer hunting is a hobby, but of course anyone with a clean record, enough money, and valid ID/citizenship can waltz into any half-decent gun shop, buy a 30-06, 12 gauge, .308 or Mosin and go straight into the woods to bag a couple.[/QUOTE] I don't think it would be that much of an adjustment. I've got a shotgun license for hunting; it's not a particularly arcane process, and as long as you've got permission to hunt on the land, you're pretty much left to your own devices. You have to have a letter demonstrating your good character, usually from an employer (or in my case, the local vicar), the police come around and check you have the appropriate gun storage stuff (it has to be a cabinet out of children's reach and bolted to the wall) and then you pay £60 and get your license. Obviously we don't let people carry weapons in public, and self-defence will never be accepted as a valid reason for requiring a license, though.
[QUOTE=Annoyed Grunt;50805593]Can't we just use hunters to keep the population under control?[/QUOTE] Gun laws so strict it almost punishes the you to own them. And difficulties securing recreational permission really hampers it. There is massive deer culls in North Scotland and in the Borders but it just isnt enough.
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