Bosnian Police Arrest five, seize arms intended for Sweden

[Joey Skylynx]

[quote]Police in Bosnia have arrested five people suspected of trafficking arms to Islamists in Sweden and seized large amounts of weapons and military equipment, officials said on Friday, after a sixth person was held earlier in Sweden

The arrests were made on Thursday during raids on seven locations in northwestern Bosnia by a police counter-terrorism unit in Bosnia's autonomous Serb Republic, said Mirna Miljanovic, head spokeswoman at the region's interior ministry.

Miljanovic said the action was in cooperation with Swedish police as part of an international operation codenamed "Wolf RS". All five arrested on Thursday were Bosnian Serbs, and the person detained last week in Sweden was of Bosnian origin, she said. Two others were on the run.[/quote]

[url=http://www.reuters.com/article/us-bosnia-sweden-arms-idUSKCN0Y41GN]Reuters[/url]
Remember when terrorist groups had their headquarters raided in order to prevent mass-death from happening?? Why are we not raiding mosques and political groups that are clearly involved with terrorist groups from around the world in Europe? Can you imagine how quickly all of these problems could be solved with a few mosques being taken down for sending, aiding, and funding terrorist groups in the Middle East and abroad?

[Joey Skylynx]

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50443061]I dont get it, the article is over a raided HQ, and you are saying "why dont we raid HQs".

If you arent suggesting burning down mosques indiscriminately, but I don't think you are that dumb.[/QUOTE]
I'm suggesting that clerics and mosques which are involved directly with sending young men and women over seas to fight for ISIS or some other shitty group be actually targetted for once. Instead of just simply capturing a few firearms, deal with the group which is receiving them and actually put them in prison cells or deporting them outright, while shutting down the primary recruitment areas.

[Zolofto]

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50443046][url=http://www.reuters.com/article/us-bosnia-sweden-arms-idUSKCN0Y41GN]Reuters[/url]
Remember when terrorist groups had their headquarters raided in order to prevent mass-death from happening?? Why are we not raiding mosques and political groups that are clearly involved with terrorist groups from around the world in Europe? Can you imagine how quickly all of these problems could be solved with a few mosques being taken down for sending, aiding, and funding terrorist groups in the Middle East and abroad?[/QUOTE]

Oh come on man. Sure ISIS is a real issue to deal with, but you're talking like every Muslim is a walking timebomb.

[Conely]

what leads you to believe that the police know of terrorist cells but aren't doing anything about them? your quote in the OP actually contradicts this narrative:

[QUOTE]Miljanovic said the action was in cooperation with Swedish police as part of an international operation codenamed "Wolf RS".[/QUOTE]

perhaps the police ARE doing everything they can, they're just not doing it in the way you personally think is politically expedient. perhaps you shouldn't be telling the counter-terrorists how to do their jobs.

[isak]

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50443068]I'm suggesting that clerics and mosques which are involved directly with sending young men and women over seas to fight for ISIS or some other shitty group be actually targetted for once. Instead of just simply capturing a few firearms, deal with the group which is receiving them and actually put them in prison cells or deporting them outright, while shutting down the primary recruitment areas.[/QUOTE]

This is being done. [URL="http://www.thelocal.fr/20151202/france-forces-closure-of-three-radical-mosques"]France forced three radical mosques to close[/URL], raiding them with police and SWAT teams. The article shows that they raided 2,235 locations "and seized 334 arms, including 34 of a military grade." Over 200 people were arrested, even though the Imam had already fled back to the Middle East before the raid.

Not even that, but [URL="http://www.ibtimes.com/french-muslim-leaders-want-extremist-mosques-closed-islamic-preachers-be-licensed-2200224"]Muslims in France have also called for the closure[/URL] of extremist, radical, Wahhabist mosques. Multiple have called for radical Imams to be expelled from the country.

This is happening, even if it isn't blatantly obvious. Police across Europe are cooperating on locating, investigating, and shuttering extremist mosques, particularly those that try to smuggle weaponry into the country. Your complaints that people aren't doing this is contradicted by the article you posted in the first place.

[editline]2nd June 2016[/editline]

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50443093]I believe, OP serving as example, they are working on that. I am for a stricter attitude too, but "just raid mosques" is a recipe for disaster if those mosques turn out to be innocent, so Info agencies got to be sure before just busting in doors.

If you ask me I'd just ban Wahhabism and all related strict sects from even getting organised, but this would be a topic of discussion about religious freedom. This was what was done in Turkey back in 1920s, and it was a dictatorship so the applicability in modern Europe is problematic.

The way you worded it in the OP was weird tho.[/QUOTE]

We should not [i]ban[/i] Wahhabism. Those groups have freedom of speech as well, as despicable as that speech may be. So long as they are not actively threatening anyone and aren't promoting direct violence (which is pretty much impossible in Wahhabism), they should not be banned. Banning religious sects would be a mistake, even when they're as nuts as Wahhabists are. France is doing what should be done, cooperating with the existing Muslim leadership and national Muslim organization to get rid of unlicensed mosques. If the Muslim leadership in a country bans Wahhabism and extremist language, and allows the government to step in to enforce those rules, excellent.

I can't agree with the [I]government itself[/I] banning certain religious sects, though, even if they are extremist. Salafism was once a modernist, decently liberal movement inside Islam before it was co-opted and transformed by radical literalists. There's little reason that the reverse can't happen, and banning certain religious groups through legislation defies numerous international treaties on freedom of religion. Cooperating with existing modernist European Islam leadership is the best way to crack down on radical Islamism within Europe.