GOP delegate issues in Georgia: Majority of Trump delegates will vote Cruz in 2nd round voting if th
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[quote]Trump won almost 40% of the vote and came in first in all but four counties in Georgia's primary. By state rules, 42 delegates are therefore "bound" to support him on the first round of voting at the national convention. However, if no nominee is chosen at the first ballot, these delegates will no longer be bound to vote for Trump and instead may support another candidate.
It was clear after Saturday's delegate selection that many of these delegates, once "unbound," would vote for Cruz.
The Texas senator came in third by popular vote in Georgia, and won no counties in the state, but he has earned 18 pledged Georgia delegates, who will be "bound" for him on the first ballot. After organizing at the county level in March and again at the congressional districts on Saturday, Cruz's supporters make up a large portion of Georgia's convention delegation so far.[/quote]
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/18/politics/georgia-delegate-donald-trump-ted-cruz/index.html[/url]
Looks like Bernie isn't the only one taking the wild ride all the way to the convention
I'm still waiting for the RNC to give it to Cruz rather than the person rightfully chosen by the American people. For better or worse Trump deserves a spot on the November ballot...and I wanna see that ripped away from him.
I think it would spur a strong desire for election reform and make the 2020 nomination process a whole hell of a lot more fair on both sides.
Yeah as much as I don't like Trump, I really, really do not want to see the shitstorm that would brew because of this.
Just give the nomination to Trump, after all everyone else has dropped out, so that [I]should[/I] make them ineligible.
There won't be a second ballot. Donald only needs 100 delegates of the available 378. And everybody else got out of the race.
[QUOTE=TestECull;50313092]I'm still waiting for the RNC to give it to Cruz rather than the person rightfully chosen by the American people. [/QUOTE]
Please stop pretending primaries are a democracy.
[QUOTE=TestECull;50313092]I'm still waiting for the RNC to give it to Cruz rather than the person rightfully chosen by the American people. For better or worse Trump deserves a spot on the November ballot...and I wanna see that ripped away from him.
I think it would spur a strong desire for election reform and make the 2020 nomination process a whole hell of a lot more fair on both sides.[/QUOTE]
"Rightfully chosen" - Trump is no more deserving than Cruz. Neither of them won the majority of the primaries. Trump may have won most, but until everyone else dropped out, never won a majority of any state, constantly winning at best 40% of each primary.
If Cruz were handed it, it wouldn't make any difference, he only got roughly 35% of each primary, a slim margin of 5% less than Trump - with both still less than 50%+
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50313253]"Rightfully chosen" - Trump is no more deserving than Cruz. Neither of them won the majority of the primaries. Trump may have won most, but until everyone else dropped out, never won a majority of any state, constantly winning at best 40% of each primary.
If Cruz were handed it, it wouldn't make any difference, he only got roughly 35% of each primary, a slim margin of 5% less than Trump - with both still less than 50%+[/QUOTE]
Trump won 50% or more of the vote in 7 states while Cruz and Kasich were still in the running: New York, Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Indiana. He also got 46% of the vote back in Nevada, 49% in Massachusetts, 47% in Mississippi, 46% in Florida, and 46% in Arizona. Cruz on the other hand has only won 2 states by 50% or more, Wyoming and Utah. Coming close in Wisconsin (48%), Kansas (47%), Maine (46%), Idaho (45%), and Texas (44%).
Trump also has 40% of the popular vote, compared to Cruz's 27% (mind this includes the Nebraska and WV primaries). But no, that difference of 3,614,466 is really just a slim margin.
By every metric, Trump is the clear winner. Sanders--who so many people are happy to dismiss--is basically an equal distance from Hillary in terms of the popular vote as Cruz is to Trump (percentage wise, 13.62% vs 13.3%).
In what world is "40% of the popular vote" a [U]clear[/U] winner? 60% still voted for Not Trump
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50313438]In what world is "40% of the popular vote" a [U]clear[/U] winner? 60% still voted for Not Trump[/QUOTE]
How is it not clear? By your logic, 73% still voted Not Cruz, 86% still voted Not Kasich, etc...
Trump is the clear winner within the system that existed before he came along. The system is shit at handling more than two somewhat popular candidates, because a good system would have preference voting so as candidates dropped out voters could still have their say as to what their second, third, etc... preference would be. But, that's the system the RNC chose to use, so.
The logic that no one has an absolute majority and thus the distribution of votes doesn't really matter is illogical. It isn't like two candidates are close; there's a significant gap between first, second, and third.
Nevermind bound delegates (which is all that really matters officially), which Trump does have over 50% in (because of, once again, the shit system the RNC uses with winner take all states).
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;50313569]Winner take all states in any context are just fucking retarded. They cause so many issues, I don't understand why they still exist.[/QUOTE]
to clear the field quickly
no one has the time or money to keep running these primaries and then gearing up for a drawn out general election
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50313438]In what world is "40% of the popular vote" a [U]clear[/U] winner? 60% still voted for Not Trump[/QUOTE]
Because in a lot of cases you don't need 50+% to get the popular vote. You just need the most (as long as you pass a certain bar, like 10%)
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