• Karzai: Freed rape victim has choice to marry attacker
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[QUOTE]Kabul (CNN) -- Afghan President Hamid Karzai has said that a rape victim freed from prison after he intervened on her behalf has the right to make her own choice about whether to marry her attacker. In an exclusive interview from Kabul, Karzai told CNN's Fareed Zakaria that the woman's case appeared to be a "misjudgment" that had to be resolved. The woman, identified only as Gulnaz for her own protection, was sentenced to 12 years in prison after she reported that her cousin's husband had raped her. But the 21-year-old was freed this week following the president's intervention, and is now staying at a women's shelter in Kabul, with the daughter she conceived in the attack and gave birth to in prison. Her plight attracted international attention when it came out that she had agreed to marry her attacker to gain her freedom and legitimize her daughter. Karzai said he had convened a judicial meeting when he came aware of her case. "The issue was discussed in detail, and the right inquiries made. We, on advice from the chief justice and the minister of justice, decided that this was a case, perhaps, of misjudgment and that it has to be resolved, and resolved by giving her a pardon immediately. That's what I did." Asked whether it was appropriate that Gulnaz should marry her attacker, as some in Afghanistan say, Karzai said it was her choice. "It's up to her to decide who to marry or who not to marry," he said. "And Islam gives her that right." Looking to the future, Karzai said the West should have confidence in Afghanistan's judicial processes after international forces withdraw. "It's a country that has been troubled a lot. But it is also an old country, with laws and a penal code and judicial history," he said. "I can assure you that, once the international forces are withdrawn and not as many as there are today, Afghanistan will neither go into a trouble within the country or strife or into miscarriage of justice. I can assure you of that." After the attack two years ago, Gulnaz hid what happened as long as she could because she was afraid of reprisals. But then she began showing signs of pregnancy and, aged only 19, was found guilty by the courts of sex outside of marriage -- adultery -- and sentenced to 12 years in jail. A key problem is that Afghan law fails to clearly distinguish between rape and adultery, which is a crime under Sharia, or Islamic law. And despite the pardon, Gulnaz's future remains unclear in a conservative society where her ordeal is considered to have brought shame on her family. She told CNN from prison last month that she was willing to marry her attacker in order to end her incarceration, though she did not want that option. Karzai also discusses Afghanistan's future relationship with the United States and his country's efforts to deal with the Taliban in the exclusive interview, to be broadcast Sunday on Fareed Zakaria GPS.[/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/17/world/asia/afghanistan-rape-interview/index.html?hpt=hp_t2[/url]
She actually has CHOICE to MARRY her RAPIST?! WOW.
Knowing those places she'll probably be murdered if she refuses anyway
I like how he insists that international forces should just go away and their country will be just fine.
Why the hell would there even be an option to marry a rapist? It's like becoming friends with someone who murdered you.
So wait, in Afghanistan... if you're raped... and accuse someone of raping you... YOU go to prison? Wow. Well. Wow. Ok, you really can't be considered prejudice for hating a country based on something like that. I mean, if a large percentage of the population believes that that's ok, come on.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;33769730]It's like becoming friends with someone who murdered you.[/QUOTE] how does that work exactly does your ghost become friends with him
[QUOTE=IdiotStorm;33769769]how does that work exactly does your ghost become friends with him[/QUOTE] You can't. The same way you can't have a successful relationship with a rapist.
Now she has the choice. That's progress
[quote]A key problem is that Afghan law fails to clearly distinguish between rape and adultery[/quote] I don't understand how this oversight can occur
[QUOTE=Dr.C;33770106]Now she has the choice. That's progress[/QUOTE] An admittedly really, really dumb choice, but a choice nonetheless.
[QUOTE=Cone;33770191]An admittedly really, really dumb choice, but a choice nonetheless.[/QUOTE] Don't hide it, you know you like it.
[QUOTE=znk666;33769379]She actually has CHOICE to MARRY her RAPIST?! WOW.[/QUOTE] didnt read [quote]Her plight attracted international attention when it came out that she had agreed to marry her attacker[B] to gain her freedom and legitimize her daughter.[/B] Karzai said he had convened a judicial meeting when he came aware of her case.[/quote]
wow no wonder Afghanistan is rated the worst place in the world for women
At least Karzai still has [i]some[/i] grasp on true Sharia law, not the radical bullshit the Taliban etc. promote.
gUYS its THERE CULTUREEE U CAN'T say stuufff like that geeseh they have a rigtht to be like how they want.
Way to go, Afghanistan! But what the hell is up with the "she was sentenced to 12 years of prison because she reported that she was raped"? You are tearing me apart, Hamid!
[quote]Freed rape victim has choice[/quote] KARZAI IMPOSES PRO-CHOICE AGENDA ON AFGHANISTAN, CAN THE US TRUST HIM? MORE AT 11
AREN'T THEY NOT MERCIFUL!?
Actually in the previous article they claimed she would be let go free irregardless of her marrying the man. But she wants to marry him for legitimising her daughter and because in the religious society it gives her more safety.
[QUOTE=The golden;33773892]It's Afghanistan. Currently rated as THE worst place to live in the entire world.[/QUOTE] I thought it was somalia or north korea.
stay classy, Afghanistan.
[QUOTE=Fahrenheit;33773584]gUYS its THERE CULTUREEE U CAN'T say stuufff like that geeseh they have a rigtht to be like how they want.[/QUOTE] Who acts like this? Every time a comment like this comes up in a "some fucked-up shit is going down in a muslim country" news story, I become a little more suspicious that it's parodying a mindset that doesn't actually exist in any significant way.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;33774794]irregardless[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;33769746]So wait, in Afghanistan... if you're raped... and accuse someone of raping you... YOU go to prison? Wow. Well. Wow. Ok, you really can't be considered prejudice for hating a country based on something like that. I mean, if a large percentage of the population believes that that's ok, come on.[/QUOTE] Its like that in many middle-eastern countries. Like said above the law fails to distinguish between rape and adultery, so in most if not all cases the woman gets raped then either killed by a family member to restore the honor of the family or faces extreme punishment.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33770190]I don't understand how this oversight can occur[/QUOTE] It's not an oversight. It's a way of oppressing women.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;33769879]You can't. The same way you can't have a successful relationship with a rapist.[/QUOTE] You could if you later realised that you actually enjoyed it. Not sure how that would work out if you were murdered though...
[QUOTE=LCBADs;33776369]Who acts like this? Every time a comment like this comes up in a "some fucked-up shit is going down in a muslim country" news story, I become a little more suspicious that it's parodying a mindset that doesn't actually exist in any significant way.[/QUOTE] You would be surprised at the number of sick idiots who would stand idly by and let this happen because it's "cultural so it's ok".
[QUOTE=Un.Hxx.Aé;33780574][quote=wraithcat]irregardless[/quote][/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless[/url] Have a major problem with it?
[QUOTE=wraithcat;33784007][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless[/url] Have a major problem with it?[/QUOTE] Yeah kinda [quote=wikipedia]Most dictionaries list it as "nonstandard" or "incorrect".[/quote]
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