• Three Australian soldiers killed in Afghanistan
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[quote]An attacker wearing an Afghan army uniform has shot dead three Australian soldiers and wounded seven others in Afghanistan. An Afghan interpreter was also killed in the incident, which happened during a routine morning parade at Shah Wali Kot in Kandahar province in southern Afghanistan. The attacker was shot dead. The Australian soldiers wounded have been taken to a medical facility. The Australian Defence Force (ADF) has notified the families of the victims and is investigating incident. Australian army cook Lance Corporal Andrew Jones was shot dead by an Afghan soldier in May. A total of 33 Australians have now been killed in Afghanistan. The deaths come as 13 American troops operating under NATO were killed in a car bomb attack on a foreign military convoy in Kabul. At least one other soldier was wounded, the officials said, warning that they were still working off initial reports and the death toll may increase. Violence across Afghanistan is at its worst since the start of the war 10 years ago, according to the United Nations, despite the presence of more than 130,000 foreign troops.[/quote] Can someone remind me why Australians are in Afghanistan? [url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-29/three-australian-soldiers-killed-in-afghanistan/3608612[/url]
Seems like our troops won't be leaving Afghanistan any time soon. R.I.P to those that died.
This is terrible. It's especially bad when the attacker is wearing an Afghan army uniform because it severely undermines the trust between Nato and Afghan forces which is vital for accomplishing anything worthwhile over there.
Not the first time this has happened to Australian soldiers. It's probably not helping trust between the Afghan army and our forces.
They should be defending the Austrio-Hongkong border. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3BO6GP9NMY[/media]
Fuck Afghanistan, our troops shouldn't even be there.
If NATO and the Afghanistan guys are supposed to be together... Maybe it's someone dressed up as an Afghan soldier to stir some shit up? Like, a third party.
I'm so glad Canada got out while we still could. This shit is just pointless now. Anti coaltion militias will only go away when NATO leaves. Half of the guys shooting at NATO troops aren't even Taliban anymore.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;33034937]I'm so glad Canada got out while we still could. This shit is just pointless now. Anti coaltion militias will only go away when NATO leaves. Half of the guys shooting at NATO troops aren't even Taliban anymore.[/QUOTE] Source please.
[QUOTE=EpikEnvy2.0;33034824]If NATO and the Afghanistan guys are supposed to be together... Maybe it's someone dressed up as an Afghan soldier to stir some shit up? Like, a third party.[/QUOTE] Possibly, some of the older ANA still use choc chip camo if it was that then I wouldn't be worried. The newer guys have CADPAT clones, but the ammount of recruit attrition is pretty high reckon some would desert and sell on the kit. Still pretty fucked up if it happened during a parade, sugests that some guy on khet started shooting into the grounds.
I'm pretty sure Australia isn't NATO.
[QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;33036411]I'm pretty sure Australia isn't NATO.[/QUOTE] We're classified as a [i]"contact country"[/i], whatever that means.
That's really sad to here. Thanks for supporting us at least....
RIP Troops. [QUOTE=Taepodong-2;33034937]I'm so glad Canada got out while we still could. This shit is just pointless now. Anti coaltion militias will only go away when NATO leaves. Half of the guys shooting at NATO troops aren't even Taliban anymore.[/QUOTE] They forgot to mention the Canadian killed in the blast. [quote]Master Corporal Byron Greff and 16 others working with the NATO training mission were killed on Saturday in a suicide bomb attack in Kabul. He was one of more than 900 Canadian military personnel dispersed around operations in Kabul and two other cities &#8211; compared to an average of about 2,500 soldiers that were deployed at the height of the combat mission in Kandahar. Canada also has more than 1,000 military personnel in Kandahar, engaged in the massive logistical effort of closing down the sprawling base and returning the equipment home. They are due to be out by the end of the year. [/quote]
They're in Afghan to train the Afghan soldiers so they can keep control of it from the Taliban. However when an Afghan soldier kills Australian soldiers something isn't right.
Call me heartless, but I don't see how soldiers dying in a war is news.
[QUOTE=Badballer;33049435]They're in Afghan to train the Afghan soldiers so they can keep control of it from the Taliban. However when an Afghan soldier kills Australian soldiers something isn't right.[/QUOTE] It's been well known for a long time that there are many Taliban within the ranks of the ANA. This is the exact reason the German KSK attribute the failure of many missions to capture high value persons on leaks inside the ANA, and subsequently have refused to operate hand in hand with them in the future. The only element within the ANA that seems to have a good rep across the board is the SF, which of course is hand selected and trained by coalition forces, as such it's made up of Afghani men who are very motivated and much less likely to be on the Taliban's payroll.
[QUOTE=Badballer;33049435]They're in Afghan to train the Afghan soldiers so they can keep control of it from the Taliban. However when an Afghan soldier kills Australian soldiers something isn't right.[/QUOTE] [quote]An attacker wearing an Afghan army uniform...[/quote] Did you catch this? Article didn't say he was part of the Afghan army or not.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;33052122]Did you catch this? Article didn't say he was part of the Afghan army or not.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the Taliban have a tendency of wearing ANA uniforms.
[QUOTE=Contag;33052130]Yeah, the Taliban have a tendency of wearing ANA uniforms.[/QUOTE] Sarcasm?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33052236]Sarcasm?[/QUOTE] Uh.. no? [url]http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2011/08/afghan_forces_uncover_clandest.php[/url] [quote]Insurgents aligned with the Taliban and the Haqqani Network (and the Kabul Attack Network) have repeatedly used authentic and bootleg copies of Afghan National Army and Afghan National Police uniforms to conduct complex assaults against urban targets. On April 18, insurgents wearing Afghan National Army (ANA) uniforms stormed the Ministry of Defense headquarters in Kabul, killing two soldiers and injuring scores of others. As previously reported by The Long War Journal, the suicide bomber, who was wearing an Afghan Army uniform and carried military identification papers, was able to get past several layers of security and enter the main building of the Ministry of Defense in the Afghan capital. According to reports, the bodyguard to the defense minister, and the secretary of the Army Chief of Staff were among the seven people wounded in the attack. On June 18, three Taliban suicide bombers dressed in ANA uniforms launched an attack against the police station in the 1st nahiya (district) in Kabul, near the Finance Ministry, killing nine people. Earlier this year, in what may be the most savage attack attributed to Taliban militants disguised as Afghan national security forces, militants from the Haqqani Network dressed in Afghan Border Police uniforms overran the Kabul Bank location in the eastern city of Jalalabad on February 19, killing at least 42 people, nearly all of them civilians. Most of the victims were executed at point-blank range as they were corralled inside the bank building by the gunmen. Over 70 others were injured in the ensuing gun fight and suicide-bomb detonations. Previously, members of the Taliban and Haqqani Network have used this tactic to raid a series of government buildings in Khost City and Gardez, and have targeted NATO bases at Bagram and in Jalalabad. Yesterday's seizure of the clandestine military uniform production facility is the latest operation conducted by the Ministry of the Interior against the terror cells active in Kabul City. Afghan authorities have broken up three planned terror assaults against military and civilian infrastructure inside Kabul since last month, nearly all of which included militants to be dressed as Afghan National Army officers.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Sharker;33049848]Call me heartless, but I don't see how soldiers dying in a war is news.[/QUOTE] It's news for us Australians, since we don't lose soldiers as often as other Coalition forces there.
[QUOTE=hehe;33052346]It's news for us Australians, since we don't lose soldiers as often as other Coalition forces there.[/QUOTE] Also most of the dead Australians tend to be special forces, rather than, you know, a cook at a parade.
[QUOTE=Contag;33052332]Uh.. no?[/QUOTE] Ah, okay, I just wasn't sure. Seemed plausible though, so I can't say I didn't expect it.
I'm sure legitimate ANA members have done it before, but it seems the Taliban dressing up as ANA/ANP soldiers is more common.
[QUOTE=Contag;33052358]Also most of the dead Australians tend to be special forces, rather than, you know, a cook at a parade.[/QUOTE]Do you remember that soldier from the SAS, David Nary, that died about 6 years ago in a training accident? That was my best friend's dad. The funeral was so sad.
Recco, why did you rate the OP funny?
[QUOTE=Badballer;33052780]Do you remember that soldier from the SAS, David Nary, that died about 6 years ago in a training accident? That was my best friend's dad. The funeral was so sad.[/QUOTE] Was that the Black Hawk crash incident?
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Stop taking ownership and acting appalled just because you share nationality, humans are humans.
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