Canadian study proves vaccinating kids against flu helps entire communities - Polidicks

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/10/health/10flu.html[/url] [quote]An unusual study done in 49 remote Hutterite farming colonies in western Canada has provided the surest proof yet that giving flu shots to schoolchildren protects a whole community from the disease. Although previous studies have demonstrated what scientists call “herd immunity,” none have been so incontrovertible, because they were done in less isolated places with more sources of flu passing through. Also, only one other study, done 42 years ago, immunized over 80 percent of a community’s children, as this one did. Success repeated in many separate communities with very high vaccination rates implies that the shots themselves — rather than luck, viral mutations, hand-washing or any other factor — were the crucial protective element. The study, done by scientists from several Canadian universities and St. Jude’s Children’s Research Hospital in Tennessee, was paid for by the governments of Canada and the United States. It was published online Tuesday by The Journal of the American Medical Association. “This is quite a definitive study, and it took a Herculean effort,” said Dr. Carolyn B. Bridges, an expert in influenza epidemiology at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “My hat’s off to them.”[/quote] In other news, Jenny McCarthy's head explodes.

Fuck you Jenny McCarthy

haha fuck you you cunt leave the science to the scientists, bitch.

hutterites are awesome

Fucking Fuck Fuck. I hate needles.

[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;20662241]Fucking Fuck Fuck. I hate needles.[/QUOTE] Oh, grow a pair. I seriously don't understand why you people can't take a measly needle.

[QUOTE=Robbazking;20662300]America vaccinate kids free right? If not something is very wrong[/QUOTE] They do for the people who accept them. That number has fallen to just about 76% now, because of all the baseless claims that vaccinations are linked to autism.

Vaccinations caused 9/11

[QUOTE=Dr Magnusson;20662381]They do for the people who accept them. That number has fallen to just about 76% now, because of all the baseless claims that vaccinations are linked to autism.[/QUOTE] Even if every single case of autism was caused by the vaccination schedule, it would still be worth it. The incidence of severe autism is low enough where the benefit gained from immunization far outweighs even that hypothetical risk. Of course, this point is rendered redundant, as there is not a single well formed study that even shows a correlation between autism and vaccines.

[QUOTE=Dr Magnusson;20662381]They do for the people who accept them. That number has fallen to just about 76% now, because of all the baseless claims that vaccinations are linked to autism.[/QUOTE] I'm curious when did people get the idea that vacinations cause autism?

[QUOTE=Kagrenak;20662466]Even if every single case of autism was caused by the vaccination schedule, it would still be worth it. The incidence of severe autism is low enough where the benefit gained from immunization far outweighs even that hypothetical risk. Of course, this point is rendered redundant, as there is not a single well formed study that even shows a correlation between autism and vaccines.[/QUOTE] Exactly, but people have never experienced polio or smallpox, so they don't know what they're choosing between. It's an incredibly stupid way to go about things like this. The problem is that a majority of people are still vaccinated against these diseases so those who don't get vaccinated are still somewhat safe under, as the article of this thread says, herd immunity. If the vaccination rates fall too low however it could result in an epidemic, and that's wha these people don't realize.

My friend and his family declined any type of shot because they fear that the shot injects mercury into them thus causing autism.

Flu vaccines are the reason we have shit like H1N1 to deal with

[QUOTE=Zeke129;20663262]Flu vaccines are the reason we have shit like H1N1 to deal with[/QUOTE] How? Vaccines aren't like antibiotics - the targeted virus can't develop resistance to them (the cause of so-called 'superbugs').

[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;20663175]My friend and his family declined any type of shot because they fear that the shot injects mercury into them thus causing autism.[/QUOTE] I guess they can't eat fish either.

[QUOTE=Lucinice;20662599]I'm curious when did people get the idea that vacinations cause autism?[/QUOTE] Well the autism thing in MMR dates back to 1998: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy[/url] It is of course bullshit taken completely out of context by the media. Skip to 2:30 and you'll see where it all went wrong: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn8trMXe8ok[/media]

Were the Canadian scientists just really bored and felt like stating the obvious?

[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;20663175]My friend and his family declined any type of shot because they fear that the shot injects mercury into them thus causing autism.[/QUOTE] see what this guy is doing is hoping someone will prove that vaccinations are right or wrong responding to his post as he has no idea if its right or not, hes simply putting the topic out there i just had to say that sorry

I got a vaccination and the next thing I knew there was a small red circle on my arm about 1mm in diameter!!!!! It has now gone but I am sure to die

[QUOTE=Dr Magnusson;20662381]They do for the people who accept them. That number has fallen to just about 76% now, because of all the baseless claims that vaccinations are linked to autism.[/QUOTE] The time it takes to properly develop and test a vaccine is far more than the rush that was done to get the vaccine out for the "Worst flu pandemic in history."

I haven't had a single vaccination in my life, due to my parents beliefs when I was younger (they researched it and shit). If I had been vaccinated, I would be dead, because of the weird form of epilepsy I had when I was 3-5.

What are these whackjobs talking about? The CDC has been using herd immunity as a criterion for vaccinations since the dawn of time. [editline]06:25PM[/editline] oh it's canada. [editline]06:25PM[/editline] figures.

[QUOTE=TropicalV2;20666401]What are these whackjobs talking about? The CDC has been using herd immunity as a criterion for vaccinations since the dawn of time. [editline]06:25PM[/editline] oh it's canada. [editline]06:25PM[/editline] figures.[/QUOTE] [quote]“This is quite a definitive study, and it took a Herculean effort,” said Dr. Carolyn B. Bridges, an expert in influenza epidemiology at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “My hat’s off to them.”[/quote] Since the CDC praised them for it, they obviously haven't done any studies this conclusive themselves. I was being sarcastic about that H1N1 comment, by the way. It was the typical response during the swine flu panic.

This is a government study, this is what they want us to think :tinfoil:

Anyone that thinks MMR causes Autism is an idiot.

[QUOTE=radioactive;20667410]Anyone that thinks MMR causes Autism is an idiot.[/QUOTE] Even the guy that made the first study suggesting the link between the two has said that it was pretty much bullshit, and that people should now just disregard it.

[QUOTE=radioactive;20667410]Anyone that thinks MMR causes Autism is an idiot.[/QUOTE] I remember on the TV they had a women who was being smug about her kid not having the MMR since theres a "Strong link to autism" Later she came back on with her son who hadn't had the vaccine, and he had autism and mumps and was begging people to get the jab.

that guy sure had some [i]sharp[/i] wit

[QUOTE=post doctor;20675563]that guy sure had some [i]sharp[/i] wit[/QUOTE] That doesn't even make sense.

Canadian study proves common sense.