Mexican presidential palace lit on fire during mass protest over massacre of 43 trainee teachers by - Polidicks

[quote][B]A group of protesters set fire to the wooden door of Mexican president Enrique Pena Nieto’s ceremonial palace[/B] in Mexico City’s historic city centre late on Saturday,[B] denouncing the apparent massacre of 43 trainee teachers[/B]. The group, carrying torches, broke away from what had been a [B]mostly peaceful protest[/B] demanding justice for the students, who were [B]abducted six weeks ago and apparently murdered and incinerated by corrupt police in league with drug gang members[/B]. ... [B]Tens of thousands of people in recent weeks have taken to the streets[/B] of Mexico City and those of the southwestern state of Guerrero where the students were abducted to decry the government’s handling of the case in recent weeks. There were more protests outside the Guerrero state government headquarters on Saturday as classmates of the missing students set fire to vehicles. [B]The unrest has been fuelled by comments made by the attorney general Jesus Murillo[/B] at a press conference on Friday to announce that the charred remains of bodies believed to be those of the students had been found. After [B]speaking to the media for a hour he said “ya me canse”,[/B] an expression in Spanish meaning [B]“I’ve had enough”[/B] or “I’m tired”, and walked away. Mexicans have seized on the comments on social media and are using the remarks as a [B]rallying cry, saying they have had “enough of fear”[/B]. The case is the toughest challenge yet to face Pena Nieto, who took office two years ago vowing to restore order in Mexico, where about 100,000 people have died in violence linked to organized crime since 2007.[/quote] [img]http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-620/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/11/9/1415517883499/525150e6-4411-498d-8071-6c1d61f3794c-620x372.jpeg[/img] [i]A large message on the ground at Mexico City’s main Zocalo Square on Saturday saying: ‘All politicians must go.’ Photograph: Antonio Nava/AFP/Getty Images[/i] [vid]http://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/74A89D97F11143086958026100736_3b36dd24468.0.1.2758234554934459806.mp4?versionId=RlCzGSmz.zHCsIkAOQ.Q9uPdg2Jcmo6E[/vid] [i]Students attempt to batter down the doors of the presidential palace.[/i]

To be fair, if I was a Mexican, or living in Mexico I'd probably have had enough of the cartels and shit by now to be saying enough's enough.

[QUOTE=bravehat;46448127]To be fair, if I was a Mexican, or living in Mexico I'd probably have had enough of the cartels and shit by now to be saying enough's enough.[/QUOTE] the only way for the cartels to end, is for the population to decide they had enough of them, and go hog wild all over them. [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexican-anti-cartel-militiamen-resisting-government-plan-to-demobilize-them/2014/05/11/afc5ae2c-e05f-4eb0-952c-a8c5c427f67f_story.html[/url] militias in general tend to be bad, but when your own government is generally on the side of the criminals, welp.

[QUOTE=bravehat;46448127]To be fair, if I was a Mexican, or living in Mexico I'd probably have had enough of the cartels and shit by now to be saying enough's enough.[/QUOTE] They aren't protesting about the cartels, they're protesting about police and the government orchestrating a mass execution of students because the protest they were about to launch would have been politically embarrassing.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;46448884]They aren't protesting about the cartels, they're protesting about police and the government orchestrating a mass execution of students because the protest they were about to launch would have been politically embarrassing.[/QUOTE] I don't think they realized that it's even more politically embarrassing to have it come out that you worked with cartels to execute students.

Dude, post link to the article. [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/09/protesters-fire-mexican-palace-anger-missing-students-grows[/url] If the people had any minimal trust for their goverment, I bet it's gone now. I'm starting to feel like Mexico is beyond any help, now that the law enforcements are pulling this cartel kind of shit.

I wouldn't be surprised if Mexico has some kind of revolution in the near future considering all the shit that has been going on down there because you can only push people so far before they start pushing back.

I'm very happy that this is getting some worldwide attention.

I've always wondered why the US government never intervened in Mexico. We have some very good reasons to, as the cartels have killed American citizens, the Mexican government could no doubt use the help, and we're so close that it immediately wipes out half the problems that fighting the insurgency in the Middle East did.

[QUOTE=ImperialGuard;46449974]I've always wondered why the US government never intervened in Mexico. We have some very good reasons to, as the cartels have killed American citizens, the Mexican government could no doubt use the help, and we're so close that it immediately wipes out half the problems that fighting the insurgency in the Middle East did.[/QUOTE] Because the last we got involved in Mexico it didn't go so well and war almost broke out and the only thing that stopped it was World War I. And I'm sure some Mexicans still don't think of the U.S very highly because of our earlier confrontations which stripped Mexico of more than half of it's territory.

[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;46450042]Because the last we got involved in Mexico it didn't go so well and war almost broke out and the only thing that stopped it was World War I.[/QUOTE] I think the situation here is slightly different, and I'm saying with Mexican permission.

Why the fuck would you kill 43 trainee teachers? wtf

that entire government is corrupt. the president of mexico is in the pocket of a cartel.

[QUOTE=ImperialGuard;46450090]I think the situation here is slightly different, and I'm saying with Mexican permission.[/QUOTE] Who's permission? The Governments? They're in bed with the cartels, why would they give us permission? The people's permission? Now that's not even legally possible.

If I was a Mexican then I would be absolutely terrified, stories I hear about the cartel really worries me.

¡Viva la Revolución!

[QUOTE=ImperialGuard;46449974]I've always wondered why the US government never intervened in Mexico. We have some very good reasons to, as the cartels have killed American citizens, the Mexican government could no doubt use the help, and we're so close that it immediately wipes out half the problems that fighting the insurgency in the Middle East did.[/QUOTE] We have already intervened with Mexico, it has caused this entire problem. America is currently pretending we didn't export our organized crime problem.

[QUOTE=s0beit;46450455]We have already intervened with Mexico, it has caused this entire problem. America is currently pretending we didn't export our organized crime problem.[/QUOTE] That's interesting. What do you mean when you say America "exported" it's organized crime problem?

More footage of the protests [video=youtube;YfUpejYJ9VY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfUpejYJ9VY[/video] But seriously the door in that video barely even budges no wonder why they had to burn it down.

Come on Mexican Self-Defense Militias, make a new bridgehead with this and fucking eradicate the drug cartels.

[QUOTE=WhollyRufus;46450512]That's interesting. What do you mean when you say America "exported" it's organized crime problem?[/QUOTE] Tinfoil hat theories. Basically, he's taking the fact that the CIA financed/supplied some of the cartels several decades ago, and turns it in to "The US is supporting all cartels and turning mexico in to a lawless hellhole"

America did cause it, in the following ways: 1. America's Plan Colombia disincentive Colombian Coca Cartels from continuing to operate in the Gulf Region, effectively ending Colombian product import into the US. In order to maintain revenue, Colombian Cartels were forced to step out of the Gulf region and begin to do handoffs to organized elements in Mexico. The first Mexican cartels started with the cocaine trade. Colombians would mule it up to Mexico by land or boat, and Mexican cartels would ferry it over the border. This established revenue to cartels. 2. NAFTA promised Mexico American businesses. In order to accommodate the demands of American corporations, Mexico cut wages and labor protections, confiscated civilian, public, and tribal lands, and sunk large amounts of money into building production facilities. American companies moved in. American companies moved out when China undercut them in every way, leaving Mexico with useless infrastructure, heavily in debt, and with legions of poor and unemployed. And at the same time, who now had jobs, money, and security? Cartels, who offered to the poor, the young, and the needy a way out of poverty. The decision was made even easier with the "silver or lead" intimidation campaigns. So, America established the conditions that allowed for the cartels to spawn. Not to mention how some of the more brutal leaders of the cartels, like los Zetas' founders Heriberto Lazcano and Arturo Guzman Decana, were trained in the School of the Americas while it was still under US military command (late 90s), and how the US is the primary destination for and creates virtually all of the demand for the drugs that cartels get their dosh from.

The war on drugs in the US has made drugs a profitable commodity. This is why there are drug cartels with the money to buy political and law enforcement officials. I'm sure everyone can see there are no beer cartels engaging in massacres. Beer is legal and cheap. Back when alcohol was prohibited there was a great deal of violence in that industry. So it's weird for us to say that it's up to the Mexican people to decide they've had enough and do something about it when we are the ones financing the cartels.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;46448182]the only way for the cartels to end, is for the population to decide they had enough of them, and go hog wild all over them. [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexican-anti-cartel-militiamen-resisting-government-plan-to-demobilize-them/2014/05/11/afc5ae2c-e05f-4eb0-952c-a8c5c427f67f_story.html[/url] militias in general tend to be bad, but when your own government is generally on the side of the criminals, welp.[/QUOTE] Sorry Doesn't work like that. Won't resolve nothing. [QUOTE]Why the fuck would you kill 43 trainee teachers? wtf [/QUOTE] Kiddo, just because you have the power to, and because what's better than showing off what you can to those that oppose you?

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;46451003] Kiddo, just because you have the power to, and because what's better than showing off what you can to those that oppose you?[/QUOTE] Well, kiddo, the actual reason, kiddo, is because the student teachers, kiddo, were from a left-leaning college, kiddo, who were going to go and protest at a speech by the mayor's wife, kiddo, who was entering politics, kiddo, and it would be embarrassing. Y'know, kid?

Or we could just annihilate the Cartel's source of income by ending the goddamn War on Drugs, which is fueling the problem more than it is helping it.

[QUOTE]Well, kiddo, the actual reason, kiddo, is because the student teachers, kiddo, were from a left-leaning college, kiddo, who were going to go and protest at a speech by the mayor's wife, kiddo, who was entering politics, kiddo, and it would be embarrassing. Y'know, kid?[/QUOTE] Either he asked something else or you didn't understand what I said. And you, going to school me in state repression? Look at my flag kiddo. Remember what happened here, because from what you have said before, you know what kind of stuff your flag endorsed around here... Cool. [QUOTE]Tinfoil hat theories. [/QUOTE] Said by whom? FOX news? The Sun? wall street journal? EDIT: Oh, forgot to say, thanks [Seed eater] for giving a description of the events, not an explanation behind the reason. Might as well say he gave them candies, but why?

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;46451223]Either he asked something else or you didn't understand what I said. And you, going to school me in state repression? Look at my flag kiddo. Remember what happened here, because from what you have said before, you know what kind of stuff your flag endorsed around here... Cool. Said by whom? FOX news? The Sun? wall street journal?[/QUOTE] Hahaha. HAHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Holy shit, it's like... I don't even know what this is like, this is just hilariously stupid.

[QUOTE=ImperialGuard;46451287]Hahaha. HAHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Holy shit, it's like... I don't even know what this is like, this is just hilariously stupid.[/QUOTE] I said kiddo because it's totally innocent to ask something like that. Someone who hasn't bothered to understand what happens in the world -and no, I don't just mean "read the daily news"- asks something like that. Say, a kid. And It's even more stupid to say it's stupid without a reason.

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;46451315]I said kiddo because it's totally innocent to ask something like that. Someone who hasn't bothered to understand what happens in the world -and no, I don't just mean "read the daily news"- asks something like that. Say, a kid. And It's even more stupid to say it's stupid without a reason.[/QUOTE] Calling anyone a kid or kiddo is very disrespectful and makes you look like a douche.