Google Fiber Users Receiving Automated Fines for Piracy
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[b]Google Fiber Users Receiving Automated Fines for Piracy[/b]
Source: [url=http://www.eteknix.com/google-fiber-users-receiving-automated-fines-piracy/]eTeknix[/url]
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Google is sending customers of its fibre service that are suspected of illegally downloading copyrighted materials automated fines. Google Fiber users have received fines, sent through automated e-mails, of up to hundreds of dollars. Other automated messages from the internet provider include takedown notices to users thought to be hosting pirated data.
Google, though its search engine, usually has a good record at protecting users from DMCA takedown notices from copyright holders, so the company’s use of automated fines as a first point of contact is surprising. Settlement fees send through such e-mails tend to range from anywhere between $20 and $300. Even ISPs such as Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T protects its customers from such settlement demands, which makes Google allowing these e-mails, though copyright enforcers such as Rightscorp and CEG TEK a real concern.
According to Mitch Stoltz, an attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), ISPs are no required by law to forward DMCA notices to users, and should be obliged to carefully review any such notice before taking action.
“In the U.S., ISPs don’t have any legal obligation to forward infringement notices in their entirety. An ISP that cares about protecting its customers from abuse should strip out demands for money before forwarding infringement notices. Many do this,” Stoltz says.
“The problem with notices demanding money from ISP subscribers is that they’re often misleading. They often give the impression that the person whose name is on the ISP bill is legally responsible for all infringement that might happen on the Internet connection, which is simply not true,” he adds.
Google has so far refused to comment on the matter.[/quote]
Ain't that some shit...
holy shit
I don't want google fiber anymore.
ehm... no, not okay
I am think I am okay with my copper wires for now :v:
It's more of worrysome that no one knew about this. If they gave out warning, fine, our own risk but for fuck sake, who these days doesn't illegaly download SOMETHING?
Facepunch should be alright with this because we only use torrents for Linux distros.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47777349]this wont stop sign ups from happening thou[/QUOTE]
It'll sure as hell stop my sign up. I'll stick with AT&T if this continues, tyvm.
All the more reason why we should move towards locally owned Internet providers over giant companies like google and Comcast.
Google isn't assessing the fines. Every ISP gets in hundreds of emails for copyright violation with fines sometimes. Google is just forwarding them to the customers. Charter does this too in some areas. I know it says this right in the article, but most of you won't read it.
[QUOTE=Banhfunbags;47777351]Facepunch should be alright with this because we only use torrents for Linux distros.[/QUOTE]
That's what I'm worried about. I don't want Google's detection service to see me using microtorrent for my linux distros and think I'm pirating the latest and greatest in filmography.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47777365]That's what I'm worried about. I don't want Google's detection service to see me using microtorrent for my linux distros and think I'm pirating the latest and greatest in filmography.[/QUOTE]
Speaking of pirating movies, here's my list of all the best movies to download from the past few years.
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If you pay the fine then you are stupid. Never pay a settlement for a DMCA notice. You have to remember that they have to [I]prove[/I] that not only you did download items illegally, but also that it was your connection that did it.
Google is just forwarding the emails they get to the user. I'd ignore them until I get a court summons.
the only copyright notice i've ever gotten in my life was for kung fu panda 2.
i've never seen kung fu panda 2.
Also VPN's man. If you're not torrenting your linux distros through a VPN you're most definitely should be.
Holy shit guys, I havent got a letter from my ISP [for linux distros] ever since I started using a VPN
[QUOTE=Levelog;47777363]Google isn't assessing the fines. Every ISP gets in hundreds of emails for copyright violation with fines sometimes. Google is just forwarding them to the customers. Charter does this too in some areas. I know it says this right in the article, but most of you won't read it.[/QUOTE]
When Verizon, Comcast, and AT&T are doing something to the benefit of consumers that's one hell of a statement.
People should be upset that Google is forwarding the demands for money when they aren't legally required to, especially since the demands are extortion.
[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;47777362]All the more reason why we should move towards locally owned Internet providers over giant companies like google and Comcast.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. I know that having one or two accounts that manage every aspect of your life is a convenient concept, but I hate the idea of having a single corporation holding sway over so much. Google provides so many services under a single banner, but I simply don't want to use all of them because it's frighteningly monopolistic.
Also, there's a certain security in having accounts with several different hosts. If one account is compromised or the company turns bad, I can drop it without too much difficulty.
At university torrenting is blocked magically, so no linux distros
Somehow my housemate somehow was the only one who could actually do it
And he never got told off, even when he's right down the road from IT Management
[QUOTE=DaMastez;47777424]When Verizon, Comcast, and AT&T are doing something to the benefit of consumers that's one hell of a statement.
People should be upset that Google is forwarding the demands for money when they aren't legally required to, especially since the demands are extortion.[/QUOTE]
People are making it out to be a bigger deal than it is though. Is it a dick move on Google's part? Definitely. Is it some horrible thing that people shouldn't get google fiber over? Not really at all.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;47777420]Holy shit guys, I havent got a letter from my ISP [for linux distros] ever since I started using a VPN[/QUOTE]
I take zero precautions besides the occasional private tracker, never got any sort of letter. Dutch ISPs don't care
[QUOTE=Goz3rr;47777455]I take zero precautions besides the occasional private tracker, never got any sort of letter. Dutch ISPs don't care[/QUOTE]
Private tracker for linux distros?!
Where?!
[QUOTE=TheHydra;47777398]the only copyright notice i've ever gotten in my life was for kung fu panda 2.
i've never seen kung fu panda 2.[/QUOTE]
Make sure you never do.
[QUOTE=Scratch.;47777467]Private tracker for linux distros?!
Where?![/QUOTE]
[url]https://rms.sexy/[/url]
torrent more you dirty slut
I stopped torrenting Linux Distros when I got a job... Just started uhm... Donating?... For.. Linux.. Distros...... Yeah.
Meh, they're just doing what every other ISP does... forwards on the notice.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;47777570]Meh, they're just doing what every other ISP does... forwards on the notice.[/QUOTE]
No.
[quote]Even ISPs such as Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T protects its customers from such settlement demands, which makes Google allowing these e-mails, though copyright enforcers such as Rightscorp and CEG TEK a real concern.
According to Mitch Stoltz, an attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), ISPs are no required by law to forward DMCA notices to users, and should be obliged to carefully review any such notice before taking action.
“In the U.S., ISPs don’t have any legal obligation to forward infringement notices in their entirety. An ISP that cares about protecting its customers from abuse should strip out demands for money before forwarding infringement notices. Many do this,” Stoltz says.
“The problem with notices demanding money from ISP subscribers is that they’re often misleading. They often give the impression that the person whose name is on the ISP bill is legally responsible for all infringement that might happen on the Internet connection, which is simply not true,” he adds.[/quote]
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47777374]but then how can you download your [I]linux distros [/I]faster?
faster speeds and a higher risk of getting fined
or god awful speeds and still a chance of at&t bitching at you
if i had google fibre, even if its cheaper i could use those savings to pay for the things i could of pirated
this is pretty smart since any isp is meant to hit you with fines if they catch you
[editline]22nd May 2015[/editline]
see this too[/QUOTE]
I don't want their system shitting a brick because I had the audacity to update War Thunder. WT's update service runs off torrent protocols and will trigger ISP anti-torrenting systems.
[QUOTE=TestECull;47777996]I don't want their system shitting a brick because I had the audacity to update War Thunder. WT's update service runs off torrent protocols and will trigger ISP anti-torrenting systems.[/QUOTE]
But it's not an anti-torrent system at all. It's third parties contacting Google on a media company's behalf to let them know of an IP that is downloading illegal content. Did you even read the OP snippet? Not even the whole article. Or were you just looking for something to needlessly complain about.
[editline]22nd May 2015[/editline]
And these companies are really the bottom of the bottom. Just shoddily written emails containing the names of movies they may or may not have downloaded. I've even gotten some from just a [I]genericbusinessname[/I]@aol.com address.
I am actually proud that its legal to download and use warez for non commercial reasons in Estonia.
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