Pelosi, Cummings, New York Times fall victim to fake Twitter account - Polidicks

[QUOTE]The mixup arose after the resignation of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, who left the White House on Monday night after revelations that he misled Vice President Pence about a December phone call Flynn had with a Russian official. Early Tuesday morning, the account @GenMikeFlynn seemingly shared the retired lieutenant general’s thoughts on his ouster. “While I accept full responsibility for my actions, I feel it is unfair that I have been made the sole scapegoat for what happened. But if a scapegoat is what’s needed for this administration to continue to take this great nation forward, I am proud to do my duty,” the account tweeted in a pair of messages. “Madam Leader, just this morning, Flynn tweeted, and this is a quote, ‘scapegoat,’ end of quote. Scapegoat. He basically described himself as a scapegoat,” said Cummings, D-Md. Pelosi, D-Calif., added: “I have a tweet, I’m going to make, I’m telling my staff right now – it’s not scapegoat, it’s stonewall. And that’s exactly what the Republicans in Congress are doing.” Just one problem, of course: the account has nothing to do with the real Flynn, who uses the verified handle @GenFlynn. Flynn had not tweeted from his official account since December but appeared to be back online later Tuesday after the flap over the fake account. The New York Times had also used the tweets in its story on Flynn’s resignation. The paper issued an online correction at the bottom of its report after discovering the error. “Also, because of an editing error, an earlier version quoted three posts from an unverified Twitter account purporting to be Mr. Flynn’s, responding to the resignation,” the correction said.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/15/pelosi-cummings-new-york-times-fall-victim-to-fake-twitter-account.html"]Source[/URL]

[url=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/us/politics/donald-trump-national-security-adviser-michael-flynn.html?_r=0]here's[/url] the new york times article in question their editors seriously have to be pants-on-head retarded to quote a twitter account whose name is "Not Michael Flynn" and has "[Parody Account]" in the description

These mistakes are only going to be worse with time, are they not.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51826578]Im 90% sure those designations were added after this broke[/QUOTE] yeah looks like it's true, but it's still an incredible failure of verification for a respected news publisher like the New York Times

More fuel for the FAKE NEWS label

This fuck-up has invalidated every single one of New York Times' articles. [sp]/s[/sp] FAKE NEWS

[QUOTE=Perrine;51826594]yeah looks like it's true, but it's still an incredible failure of verification for a respected news publisher like the New York Times[/QUOTE] Mistakes happen, humans are fallible

[QUOTE=Perrine;51826594]yeah looks like it's true, but it's still an incredible failure of verification for a respected news publisher like the New York Times[/QUOTE] Stuff like this is why I've lost almost all trust in major American media. I pretty much just trust AP and Reuters at this point, and even then I'm trying to be more actively critical of the things I read. I think it's unfortunate that our media is so shitty that Trump actually has some sliver of justification for his "fake news" brigading. They're giving him fuel for his smear campaign which is allowing him to discredit the media so that when they report on his [I]actual[/I] controversies, nobody is sure what to believe. [editline]15th February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Lambeth;51826806]Mistakes happen, humans are fallible[/QUOTE] Kind of like how it was just a mistake that Conway made up the Bowling Green Massacre right? You're using the same logic Trump supporters use to defend his administrations' gaslighting to defend the failing corporate media of America. You can admit that our media is shit and still hate Trump, you know?

[QUOTE=srobins;51826944] They're giving him fuel for his smear campaign which is allowing him to discredit the media so that when they report on his [I]actual[/I] controversies, nobody is sure what to believe.[/QUOTE] What [I]actual[/I] controversies?

[QUOTE=srobins;51826944] Kind of like how it was just a mistake that Conway made up the Bowling Green Massacre right?[/QUOTE] I dunno when you make that mistake more than once I think it's a lie

[QUOTE=srobins;51826944] Kind of like how it was just a mistake that Conway made up the Bowling Green Massacre right? You're using the same logic Trump supporters use to defend his administrations' gaslighting to defend the failing corporate media of America. You can admit that our media is shit and still hate Trump, you know?[/QUOTE] The spokesperson for the President of the United States of America said a bold face lie [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/06/kellyanne-conways-bowling-green-massacre-wasnt-a-slip-of-the-tongue-shes-said-it-before/?utm_term=.07503ca93f73"]thrice[/URL]. This is not the same as people sourcing the wrong Twitter for quotes then almost immediately going back and correcting themselves.

Also I don't think it's really possible to hold the entire media to the same accountability as a single person. One is a industry that has thousands if not millions of people working for it. The other is Kellyanne Conway, professional bullshitter

The difference between a tabloid/fake news outlet and a reputable outlet is whether or not they admit their faults and issue corrections.

[QUOTE=srobins;51826944]Stuff like this is why I've lost almost all trust in major American media. I pretty much just trust AP and Reuters at this point, and even then I'm trying to be more actively critical of the things I read. I think it's unfortunate that our media is so shitty that Trump actually has some sliver of justification for his "fake news" brigading. They're giving him fuel for his smear campaign which is allowing him to discredit the media so that when they report on his [I]actual[/I] controversies, nobody is sure what to believe.[/QUOTE] You've lost trust of them for a minor error in a much larger topic, that they went back and corrected? Does one small error invalidate the rest of the article? Please give some more examples of "fake news" brigading.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51826983]What [I]actual[/I] controversies?[/QUOTE] Oh, the tone of my post probably gave the wrong idea. Stuff like "alternative facts", "bowling green massacre", her endorsing Ivanka, the Flynn business, etc. I'm saying that sloppy community-college tier reporting like this just gives Trump ammo to convince his base that the media is inaccurate or falsified, regardless of whether its true or not. [QUOTE=Raidyr;51826989]The spokesperson for the President of the United States of America said a bold face lie [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/06/kellyanne-conways-bowling-green-massacre-wasnt-a-slip-of-the-tongue-shes-said-it-before/?utm_term=.07503ca93f73"]thrice[/URL]. This is not the same as people sourcing the wrong Twitter for quotes then almost immediately going back and correcting themselves.[/QUOTE] It's not the same thing but I think it's comparable. Conway was absolutely lying, I'm not disputing that at all, I'm just saying I don't think there should be such leniency for the people running our country's media like this. This isn't a high school newspaper, it's the news media of our country and it's making basic mistakes like reporting on fake Twitter accounts. This isn't even the first time it's happened, I can't remember specifically but I'm positive a similar incident occurred just in the past few months, where the media blew up some story that turned out to be from a fake Tweet. The media should be held to a higher standard. [editline]15th February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=KillerJaguar;51827348]You've lost trust of them for a minor error in a much larger topic, that they went back and corrected? Does one small error invalidate the rest of the article? Please give some more examples of "fake news" brigading.[/QUOTE] lol, I've lost trust of them after months and months of shitty reporting on the election. If this were an isolated incident, you'd have a point, but they've been pretty consistently shit as far as I'm concerned.

Please give some more examples of "fake news" brigading.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;51827497]Please give some more examples of "fake news" brigading.[/QUOTE] Um, no? I don't really have any interest in doing so, if you disagree that's fine. I'm just saying in past months I've seen a number of stories that were either unsubstantiated, based on a falsification/spoof, or blown out of proportion and sensationalized. I don't care to spend the time justifying my personal beliefs to you just because you don't agree with my lack of trust for the media.

[QUOTE=srobins;51827387]Oh, the tone of my post probably gave the wrong idea. Stuff like "alternative facts", "bowling green massacre", her endorsing Ivanka, the Flynn business, etc. I'm saying that sloppy community-college tier reporting like this just gives Trump ammo to convince his base that the media is inaccurate or falsified, regardless of whether its true or not. It's not the same thing but I think it's comparable. Conway was absolutely lying, I'm not disputing that at all, I'm just saying I don't think there should be such leniency for the people running our country's media like this. This isn't a high school newspaper, it's the news media of our country and it's making basic mistakes like reporting on fake Twitter accounts. This isn't even the first time it's happened, I can't remember specifically but I'm positive a similar incident occurred just in the past few months, where the media blew up some story that turned out to be from a fake Tweet. The media should be held to a higher standard. [editline]15th February 2017[/editline] lol, I've lost trust of them after months and months of shitty reporting on the election. If this were an isolated incident, you'd have a point, but they've been pretty consistently shit as far as I'm concerned.[/QUOTE] You must be very happy that, in least this paricular story, they corrected themselves as soon as they could.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51827552]You must be very happy that, in least this paricular story, they corrected themselves as soon as they could.[/QUOTE] I mean, it's a good thing, but I'd much prefer they don't report false information that could be verified in literally ONE MINUTE in the first place. How many people do you think read the initial report? Now how many actually read the retraction? Take the difference and there's the problem.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51827651]Retractions/corrections existed as long as journalism did And it doesnt make a news corp shit[/QUOTE] Wow thanks for the enlightening post, I thought this was the first time a newspaper had to issue a retraction! Sure showed me.

[QUOTE=srobins;51827656]Wow thanks for the enlightening post, I thought this was the first time a newspaper had to issue a retraction! Sure showed me.[/QUOTE] You've pretty much shown you know nothing about journalism and are making up reasons to hate "the media".

[QUOTE=1239the;51827681]You've pretty much shown you know nothing about journalism and are making up reasons to hate "the media".[/QUOTE] Really? I'm curious how I've shown I know "nothing about journalism" just for expressing mistrust for American corporate media, please feel free to share your detailed analysis.