Louisiana Police stun father as son died in house fire - Polidicks

[quote]LOUISIANA, MO. -- The Missouri State Fire Marshal continues its investigation into an early morning Thursday fire that took the life of a 3-year-old Louisiana, Mo. boy. The fire killed Riley Miller who was pronounced dead at Pike County Memorial Hospital. The original 911 call came in at 12:58 a.m. at 405 S. Main St. Firefighters arrived at the scene at 1:03 a.m. A city police officer stunned Riley's stepfather Ryan Miller with a Taser gun three times as he tried to enter the burning house.[/quote] [url]http://www.connecttristates.com/news/story.aspx?id=966109#.UnfvU-LjUnv[/url]

what the fuck

being a hero is ILLEGAL

It sounds like the house might of been a blazing inferno or something in which case restraining the man might of been justified but that all depends Blaming the police might just be a way for the family to cope since the parents didn't get him out first like they should of

As much as this isn't goin to be a popular opinion, maybe the police just saved his life. Maybe the house was being consumed by fire and going in there would've been suicide. I'm sure the police know more about how bad housefires are more than the average homeowner.

Just imagining the stepfather getting tazed 3 times before going down is sad :(

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;42756160]As much as this isn't goin to be a popular opinion, maybe the police just saved his life. Maybe the house was being consumed by fire and going in there would've been suicide. I'm sure the police know more about how bad housefires are more than the average homeowner.[/QUOTE] Yeah but some people would probably rather die knowing they tried to do something, rather than living their whole life knowing someone else died because they did nothing. Whether or not they had a chance to actually save them probably doesn't matter all too much.

the cop did the right thing stopping the guy idk about tazering him though, if he couldn't restrain the guy then he couldn't restrain him

would you feel like living if you'd lost your son?

[QUOTE=kasmoke;42756196]Yeah but some people would probably rather die knowing they tried to do something, rather than living their whole life knowing someone else died because they did nothing. Whether or not they had a chance to actually save them probably doesn't matter all too much.[/QUOTE] i think it's probably better for the family as a whole that the father didn't die trying to be a hero though. As much as it's tragic, it could've potentially been more tragic.

[QUOTE=Kondor;42756202]the cop did the right thing stopping the guy idk about tazering him though, if he couldn't restrain the guy then he couldn't restrain him[/QUOTE] I think it would be better to taze him if he was about to run into an inferno that would probably kill him than just let him go in and have his family lose someone else.

[quote]The original 911 call came in at 12:58 a.m. at 405 S. Main St. Firefighters arrived at the scene at 1:03 a.m.[/quote] [quote]State Fire Marshal Investigator Scott Stoneberger said that a firefighter in full gear attempted to enter the home but the flames were too hot.[/quote] Cops tasing him saved his life.

there really is no answer what that cop should have done

This is a tragedy but I can understand why the cops did what they did. Also, is there really a town in Missouri that has the same name as Louisiana, the state? It's annoying enough people confusing LA with L.A.

[QUOTE=Kondor;42756202]the cop did the right thing stopping the guy idk about tazering him though, if he couldn't restrain the guy then he couldn't restrain him[/QUOTE] That could have been dangerous for them. Honestly, I think the police maybe should have let the man go in, perhaps he should have the choice.

[QUOTE=areolop;42756231]Cops tasing him saved his life.[/QUOTE] I imagine the family involved are of the opinion that they just gave him a sentence worse than death.

It may have saved his life, but I don't think the police should have the right to stop you from trying to save your infant from burning to death, if that is your decision.

It saved his life. If there was truly no other way to restrain him then I guess there's nothing wrong with this

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42756339]That could have been dangerous for them. Honestly, I think the police maybe should have let the man go in, perhaps he should have the choice.[/QUOTE] You should always have the choice. He made his and they denied him. He'll spend the rest of his life either hating the police or hating himself now.

[QUOTE=Axznma;42756531]You should always have the choice. He made his and they denied him. He'll spend the rest of his life either hating the police or hating himself now.[/QUOTE] You dont always a choice. When the firefighters and police arrive on scene they're there to protect whatever is left. They attempted to enter the house but it was already too much. The police are not about to let you do something that is easily seen as an act that will lead to great bodily harm or apparent death.

[quote=Article]State Fire Marshal Investigator Scott Stoneberger said that a firefighter in full gear attempted to enter the home but the flames were too hot. Firefighters discovered Riley near the doorway to the bedroom from the front living room.[/quote] If a fireman in full gear couldn't even enter the home at this point then what a pointless waste of a life it would have been for the father to even go in. In their grief that family, understandably, believed that something could have been done but the reality is, it was hopeless. I'd rather blame the family for not keeping their kids accounted for in the first place than listen to them accuse the police to be "heartless" because they were trying to prevent unnecessary casualties. How romanticized it must be to think that everyone can be the hero and save somebody from a burning building. I wish that was the case here but it's just unfortunately not.

[QUOTE=codenamecueball;42756220]would you feel like living if you'd lost your son?[/QUOTE] He has a wife and another son... Would you rather he go in there and die leaving those two behind?

Couldn't they have killed him by stunning him 3 times?

[QUOTE=Desuh;42756659]Couldn't they have killed him by stunning him 3 times?[/QUOTE] What? No?

[QUOTE=Desuh;42756659]Couldn't they have killed him by stunning him 3 times?[/QUOTE] Not if you have breaks inbetween.

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;42756352]I imagine the family involved are of the opinion that they just gave him a sentence worse than death.[/QUOTE] Do you think they'd rather have two dead family members than one?

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;42756160]As much as this isn't goin to be a popular opinion, maybe the police just saved his life. Maybe the house was being consumed by fire and going in there would've been suicide. I'm sure the police know more about how bad housefires are more than the average homeowner.[/QUOTE]The most heroic of people don't really care about "odds of survival." If there is even a CHANCE that their actions can save another life, its worth the risk. Especially when it concerns family members and loved ones.

-snip- I hope none of us find themselves in the same situation as this man.

[QUOTE=Solo Wing;42758032]The most heroic of people don't really care about "odds of survival." If there is even a CHANCE that their actions can save another life, its worth the risk. Especially when it concerns family members and loved ones.[/QUOTE] No one wants to be a hero. No one. You have some arrogance if you think you want to be hero.

[QUOTE=areolop;42758540]No one wants to be a hero. No one. You have some arrogance if you think you want to be hero.[/QUOTE] What do you mean by "no one wants to be a hero"? I feel like I'm legitimately not understanding your post.