Parents take seriously ill child from hospital and flee to France - Polidicks

The health of a five-year-old boy taken from hospital by his parents against medical advice will deteriorate rapidly as the battery on his feeding system runs out later, police said. It has also been confirmed the family are Jehovah's Witnesses, but there is no suggestion this is why he was taken. [img]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/77254000/jpg/_77254372_ashyaking6.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28978655[/url]

I hope those stupid fucks both eventually get charged with something. This is just sad

Idiot parents who shouldn't be handling a child

[QUOTE=matt.ant;45835912]The health of a five-year-old boy taken from hospital by his parents against medical advice will deteriorate rapidly as the battery on his feeding system runs out later, police said. It has also been confirmed the family are [B]Jehovah's Witnesses[/B], but...[/QUOTE] I don't get why this is mentioned tbh. Do Jehovah's Witnesses not like hospitals or?

[QUOTE=Hogie bear;45835930]I don't get why this is mentioned tbh. Do Jehovah's Witnesses not like hospitals or?[/QUOTE] Its about blood transfusions I believe.

[QUOTE=Hogie bear;45835930]I don't get why this is mentioned tbh. Do Jehovah's Witnesses not like hospitals or?[/QUOTE] the hoover said no so no they dont like hospitals

As in Jehovas Witness believe their blood is sacred and so won't take blood transfusions.

[QUOTE=Hogie bear;45835930]I don't get why this is mentioned tbh. Do Jehovah's Witnesses not like hospitals or?[/QUOTE] Treatment probably goes against their beliefs or something stupid like that

[QUOTE=darkrei9n;45835935]Its about blood transfusions I believe.[/QUOTE] Yep transfusions of blood (autologous or from others) is forbidden by their denomination of Christianity. Every other procedure to do with blood infusions (like blood patches, intra-op blood salvage, plasmapheresis, fractionated blood products that aren't red cells, and the like) are acceptable. I believe their refusal to accept blood transfusions stems from a belief that it's analogous to eating blood, and eating of fat and blood is forbidden by God.

[QUOTE=Complifused;45835941]Treatment probably goes against their beliefs or something stupid like that[/QUOTE] Their interpretation of the bible has the result that [I]"the use of procedures that involve the removal and storage of their own blood are often unacceptable"[/I]. Read the rest of [url="http://ceaccp.oxfordjournals.org/content/4/2/35.full"]this article[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah's_Witnesses_and_blood_transfusions"]this wikipedia page[/url] before making any more ignorant remarks like what you just said. I couldn't care less about what a Jehovah's Witnesses does and doesn't, but your uninformed generalization is just plain bullshit mate.

Here's their superb logic in a [URL="http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-about-blood-transfusion/"]nut shell[/URL]: [QUOTE]The Bible commands that we not ingest blood. So we should not accept whole blood or its primary components in any form, whether offered as food or as a transfusion. Note the following scriptures: [B]Genesis 9:4.[/B] God allowed Noah and his family to add animal flesh to their diet after the Flood but commanded them not to eat the blood. God told Noah: [I]"Only flesh with its soul—its blood—you must not eat."[/I] This command applies to all mankind from that time on because all are descendants of Noah. [B]Leviticus 17:14.[/B][I] "You must not eat the blood of any sort of flesh, because the soul of every sort of flesh is its blood. Anyone eating it will be cut off."[/I] God viewed the soul, or life, as being in the blood and belonging to him. Although this law was given only to the nation of Israel, it shows how seriously God viewed the law against eating blood. [B]Acts 15:20.[/B] [I]"Abstain . . . from blood."[/I] God gave Christians the same command that he had given to Noah. History shows that early Christians refused to consume whole blood or even to use it for medical reasons.[/QUOTE]

-snip- Parent's are dumb, gonna kill their kid for no logical reason

I thought the title was "took to hospital" not "took from hospital". And here I was going under the assumption of child abandonment, not endangerment.

Was taken from QA Hospital in Portsmouth I think.

[QUOTE=Dougz;45835924]I hope those stupid fucks both eventually get charged with something. This is just sad[/QUOTE] What would actually happen if he died? is it illegal to deny treatment?

[QUOTE=J!NX;45835927]Idiot parents who shouldn't be handling a child[/QUOTE] or like most of the time, children

[QUOTE=matt.ant;45836998]What would actually happen if he died? is it illegal to deny treatment?[/QUOTE] [quote]Religious Beliefs are Not a Defense for Denying Medical Treatment to a Minor Adults have the right to refuse medical care for religious or personal reasons. However, they may not impose religious practices or personal beliefs which endanger the welfare of a child on minor children. Instead, most states require parents to provide a reasonable degree of medical care for their children or else face legal consequences. Children are entitled to protection. Often, that protection comes from their parents. However, when it does not then the state has the responsibility to step in and act in the best interest of the child until such time as the parent is deemed capable of protecting the child or the child reaches the age of majority.[/quote] According to this, they're fucked if the kid dies.

[QUOTE]The Office of Public Information for Jehovah's Witnesses said in a statement: "There is absolutely no indication, as far as we are aware, that their decision is in any way motivated by any religious convictions."[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]"Jehovah's Witnesses are encouraged to seek the best medical treatment for themselves and their children," it added.[/QUOTE] Read the fucking article, mongoloids [highlight](User was banned for this post ("flaming" - Orkel))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Hogie bear;45835930]I don't get why this is mentioned tbh. Do Jehovah's Witnesses not like hospitals or?[/QUOTE] blood transfusions, certain medicines, basically they probably don't approve of brain surgery [editline]29th August 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=GuitarMonkey;45837031]Read the fucking article, mongoloids[/QUOTE] but they generally don't actually seek the best medical treatment for themselves or their children, just about every year an article comes out that some kid with preventable diseases or easily treatable conditions die because their parents don't allow treatment

Fucking idiots. I hope the government charges them both with child abuse and attempted murder. I'm sick of people saying "it's just their religion", this is a helpless child that was unfortunate enough to be born in that family.

This probably has to do with religion but what if they want their kid to die so he doesn't suffer anymore or something stupid like that?

[QUOTE=coldroll5;45837478]This probably has to do with religion but what if they want their kid to die so he doesn't suffer anymore or something stupid like that?[/QUOTE] That would still be a dumb idea regardless. And remember, they're Jehovah's witnesses. They have been known to do this sort of dumb thing just to escape from 'committing sins' and going against 'God's will.'

Find them, charge em with endangerment to a childs life, negligence and everything else that fits the bill and fuck them with the ACME Big Book Of Law: Just How Badly [i]Did[/i] You Fuck Up?

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45837017]According to this, they're fucked if the kid dies.[/QUOTE] That's the US though, the law in the UK (and France) could be different

[QUOTE=matt.ant;45838192]That's the US though, the law in the UK (and France) could be different[/QUOTE] The law seems to be similar in France from what I've seen. [quote]Some Witnesses requested that the National Union of the Associations for the Defense of Families and Individuals not be officially recognized as useful to the public because of its opposition to sectarian excesses which, the plaintiffs alleged persecuted Jehovah's Witnesses. Both the Conseil d'État and the ECHR rejected their claim.[/quote] There is this, though. So likely they're probably going to get the book thrown at them by the French government.

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45837482]That would still be a dumb idea regardless. And remember, they're Jehovah's witnesses. They have been known to do this sort of dumb thing just to escape from 'committing sins' and going against 'God's will.'[/QUOTE] I wonder, do they think that letting their child die would be a lesser sin?

I wonder how terrible they'll feel when their religion doesn't actually keep him from dying.

[QUOTE=Monkah;45840633]I wonder how terrible they'll feel when their religion doesn't actually keep him from dying.[/QUOTE] They probably know he'll die, they just don't want to "damn his soul". Yes, because your loving god will send an innocent child to hell because he had a blood transfusion. Please, can we declare religion a mental illness already? These people need help.

[QUOTE=darkrei9n;45835938]As in Jehovas Witness believe their blood is sacred and so won't take blood transfusions.[/QUOTE] My grandma knew a guy who was a jehovas witness 10 years ago and he refused to go to the hospital when he was sick and he died a month later.

They love him to death.