[QUOTE]In another victory for low-wage workers, Chicago became the latest city to raise its minimum wage Tuesday.
The city council approved an increase to $13 an hour by 2019.
Many states and cities have approved local increases this year, while federal-level discussions about raising the minimum wage for all Americans have stalled.
The Chicago increase was backed by Mayor Rahm Emanuel and passed with overwhelming support by a vote of 44-5.
The wage hike will be phased in gradually. Chicago's minimum wage workers will get their first raise on July 1, 2015, when the rate goes from $8.25 to $10 an hour. After it hits $13 in 2019, it will be pegged to inflation.
The vote also raises the wage for tipped workers from $4.95 to $5.95 over the next two years.
Related: Red-leaning sates say yes to a higher minimum wage
[B][U]Advocates say the increase will give 410,000 people a bump in pay, and lift 70,000 workers out of poverty.[/U][/B] [/QUOTE]
[url]http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/02/news/economy/chicago-minimum-wage-hike/index.html?iid=HP_LN[/url]
I feel like "by 2019" should really be in the title
[quote]The vote also raises the wage for tipped workers from $4.95 to $5.95 over the next two years.[/quote]
If you worked in a smaller restaurant, how can you live off that wage?
Comparison, Canadian minimum wages:
[url]http://srv116.services.gc.ca/dimt-wid/sm-mw/rpt1.aspx?lang=eng#fnb1[/url]
[QUOTE=Angus725;46624913]If you worked in a smaller restaurant, how can you live off that wage?
Comparison, Canadian minimum wages:
[url]http://srv116.services.gc.ca/dimt-wid/sm-mw/rpt1.aspx?lang=eng#fnb1[/url][/QUOTE]
If they don't make minimum wage via tips the employer has to cover the difference.
[QUOTE=Angus725;46624913]If you worked in a smaller restaurant, how can you live off that wage?
Comparison, Canadian minimum wages:
[url]http://srv116.services.gc.ca/dimt-wid/sm-mw/rpt1.aspx?lang=eng#fnb1[/url][/QUOTE]
if your tips don't add up to the regular minimum wage your employer has to cover the difference
it's a really dumb system
If current inflation trends hold true, that will mean in 2018 you'll get the buying power of a $11.84 wage today. The buying power of the current minimum wage of $8.25 in 2000 was the equivalent of $11.38 today. This isn't going to change anyone's lives really, it's just going to allow the maintaining of their current lifestyle. You get a small boost in the first few years of a minimum wage boost in your living quality but it starts turning the other way as the years go by. They just need to keep up with inflation is all.
Well this sucks, I was gonna move to downtown Chicago to be closer to work. This will definitely cause the cost of living in to go up so I guess.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46624923]if your tips don't add up to the regular minimum wage your employer has to cover the difference
it's a really dumb system[/QUOTE]
yeah canadians like the pretend theyre fixing it by not tipping
$13 an hour US = $14.82 CAD.
Our highest Minimum wage is $11 (Ontario and Nunavut only) with the lowest being $10 (New Brunswick). We don't exactly have minimum wages to be proud of.
[QUOTE=Ajacks;46624966]They just need to keep up with inflation is all.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]After it hits $13 in 2019, it will be pegged to inflation.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Daemon White;46625311]$13 an hour US = $14.82 CAD.
Our highest Minimum wage is $11 (Ontario and Nunavut only) with the lowest being $10 (New Brunswick). We don't exactly have minimum wages to be proud of.[/QUOTE]
$13 in chicago, the federal minimum wage is $7.25 so $8.27 an hour for the majority of the US.
Fair enough. But, what is the cost of living in US compared to Canada / Ontario? I keep hearing about how things are cheaper in the states.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;46624987]yeah canadians like the pretend theyre fixing it by not tipping[/QUOTE]
What? You look like a dick if you don't tip here, even though we have much better minimum wages than most the US.
The concept of tipping is bullshit any ways. No one cares if you don't tip fast food employees despite how hard they work for shit pay, or any other number of bottom tier jobs. Maybe I'm just crazy in thinking that everything a waiter does is part of their job description and we shouldn't need to give them an incentive in the form of a tip so they can do their job well.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;46625443]What? You look like a dick if you don't tip here, even though we have much better minimum wages than most the US.
The concept of tipping is bullshit any ways. No one cares if you don't tip fast food employees despite how hard they work for shit pay, or any other number of bottom tier jobs. [B]Maybe I'm just crazy in thinking that everything a waiter does is part of their job description and we shouldn't need to give them an incentive to perform well in the form of a tip.[/B][/QUOTE]
If somebody thinks that they're a cunt. Waitresses get $9/hr in B.C. That is $1.25 below minimum wage because it's implied that everybody who isn't a dickwad tips at least 15%.
I like living in Japan because they don't do tipping here because you're kind of expected to give your best service + everyone makes at least minimum wage (I think it's 700-800 yen)
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;46625514]I like living in Japan because they don't do tipping here because you're kind of expected to give your best service + everyone makes at least minimum wage (I think it's 700-800 yen)[/QUOTE]
The idea is that you don't tip until you get your bill. If you were pleased with your service you tip. If you aren't, you tip less or not at all. And if you were pleased but don't tip you're a dickwad.
[QUOTE=dark soul;46624980]Well this sucks, I was gonna move to downtown Chicago to be closer to work. This will definitely cause the cost of living in to go up so I guess.[/QUOTE]
Where were you planning on moving lol it was going to be very expensive regardless of this.
I wish DC would just get their fucking act together and pass a $15 national minimum wage.
It's ridiculous that wages aren't already tied to inflation. Hope to see this federally mandated - minimum wage isn't enough to survive on.
[QUOTE=Ajacks;46624966]If current inflation trends hold true, that will mean in 2018 you'll get the buying power of a $11.84 wage today. The buying power of the current minimum wage of $8.25 in 2000 was the equivalent of $11.38 today. This isn't going to change anyone's lives really, it's just going to allow the maintaining of their current lifestyle. You get a small boost in the first few years of a minimum wage boost in your living quality but it starts turning the other way as the years go by. They just need to keep up with inflation is all.[/QUOTE]
and this is why wages have remained stagnant even as more and more people push for higher wages, because the bloody accountants always work out a way to screw you AND make you feel like you're getting a raise
I make slightly more than minimum wage, ($7.75), but I also get quite a bit in tips as I deliver pizzas, so my actual hourly wage averages out to around $13-$14 for a decent day. If I were only making minimum wage I definitely wouldn't be able to afford really anything, I mean my phone bill alone costs $75 a month, and this is on top of car/health/life insurance and living costs.
I always leave a tip regardless of a waiter's/waitress's service, but the amount is completely dependent on how well they do, I swear some waiters literally treat customers like shit simply because the expect to be tipped. When I deliver a pizza to someone I always make small talk and ask them how their day is going even if my day isn't great, and I literally never expect a tip unless expressly told to keep the change, but people around here are extremely nice and usually leave a tip averaging around $2-$3.
Of course there are those random one or two people that scream at me when their pizza is five minutes late or they think their food is wrong, but honestly that is the vast minority around here, I'm completely surprised at how generous people are in general. Saying a waiter/delivery person doesn't deserve a tip is bollocks to me, if they are courteous and treat me with respect I will in turn give them a tip to say "Good Job", it's not to impress anyone or brag it's simply a way to be grateful for a given service.
[B]EDIT: [/B]Slightly more on-topic, the thread title is a bit misleading, I mean not that I expected this to be happening this next year but 2019 is quite a stretch. They're basically just adjusting the wage for inflation in one big jump as opposed to adjusting for it gradually over time which IMO should be pushed for as opposed to simply raising it by X amount by X year.
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