Chrages against officer for shooting 7 yr old girl in the head during SWAT raid dismissed
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[quote]Final charges against Joseph Weekley, a police officer who shot dead a 7-year-old girl, Aiyana Stanley-Jones, in Detroit in May 2010, were dismissed on Friday, leaving a family bereft and raising serious concern among national groups over an increasingly militarized –police force.[/quote]
[url]http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/31/detroit-aiyana-stanley-jones-police-officer-cleared[/url]
Forcing them to sit in the kids blood for hours must've been traumatic as hell for the family.
Fucked up how they raided the house because the uncle staying with the family was merely a suspect in a case involving the murder of a child, and here comes the SWAT to murder another one.
[quote]“I get no sleep. I am sick. I am sick as hell. I get no sleep. The flashbacks. I wouldn’t wish this on nobody in the world. Not even you.”[/quote]
He said that to the officer that murdered her, fuck.
'Militarized' police, a.k.a. the purpose of SWAT. They've had this kinda stuff since forever.
However, this is disgusting. Murdering children is almost never okay.
[QUOTE=goldenbuttocks;47051672]'Militarized' police, a.k.a. the purpose of SWAT. They've had this kinda stuff since forever.
However, this is disgusting. Murdering children is almost never okay.[/QUOTE]
You know, almost. That .1% of the time where you just need to murder a child.
how can charges ever be dropped against something like this. you can throw as many technicalities at me as you want, this has bullshit written all over it
[QUOTE=Simplemac3;47051713]You know, almost. That .1% of the time where you just need to murder a child.[/QUOTE]
That .1% of the time is when a kid pulls a gun on you.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;47051760]That .1% of the time is when a kid pulls a gun on you.[/QUOTE]
Never trust a baby, man.
If he's not a total sociopath, I don't know how he hasn't shot himself in the head after that. Regardless of how it happened, if that was me, I would've probably taken my life after that, knowing what I had done.
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;47051850]If he's not a total sociopath, I don't know how he hasn't shot himself in the head after that. Regardless of how it happened, if that was me, I would've probably taken my life after that, knowing what I had done.[/QUOTE]
he accused the mom of wrestling with his gun. they arrested her and quickly released her. the charges were dropped for lack of evidence, not because someone else was to blame. this guy's a fucking murderer and tried to blame the girl's own mother for it.
Are you a murderer? Want to get away with it? Join the police force!
[QUOTE=Simplemac3;47051713]You know, almost. That .1% of the time where you just need to murder a child.[/QUOTE]
Didn't you hear about that 2y/o that shot and killed his mother?
What the fuck she was sleeping on the couch when she was shot, how do you fuck up that badly.
A child sleeping on a couch does not look like a threat at all, how is he not in jail.
[QUOTE=ccg;47051918]Didn't you hear about that 2y/o that shot and killed his mother?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure what you are implying here, but a 2 year old has no idea what pointing a gun at someone means. That is not part of the '.1% of the time where you just need to murder a child'
This is absolutely awful but the angle that this article taking is really upsetting me.
The whole "militarization" of the police force is such a stupid idea. Police have been using military equipment since they've been formed, this is nothing new. Call me when a police force gets an artillery piece, then you can bring up militarization. By placing all the blame on the militarization you're externalizing it from the police and onto their equipment. The increase of Swat activities, especially for search warrants, is not militarization, it's misuse of power and poor decision making. If you have shit cops with military equipment they'll still be shit cops if you take it away. Also, referring to a flashbang as a "war-device" is such fear-mongering holy shit, it's one of the most effective non-lethal devices ever created.
[QUOTE=arbio22;47051977]I'm not sure what you are implying here, but a 2 year old has no idea what pointing a gun at someone means. That is not part of the '.1% of the time where you just need to murder a child'[/QUOTE]
He's being sarcastic mate, because Simplemac is talking shit (quite possibly being sarcastic himself, but not well executed at all).
[QUOTE=LSK;47051995]He's being sarcastic mate, because Simplemac is talking shit (quite possibly being sarcastic himself, but not well executed at all).[/QUOTE]
Oh, alright. Disregard my post then.
[QUOTE=Simplemac3;47051809]Never trust a baby, man.[/QUOTE][t]http://i.imgur.com/dicqX.png[/t]
[QUOTE=spiritlol;47051993]The whole "militarization" of the police force is such a stupid idea. Police have been using military equipment since they've been formed, this is nothing new. Call me when a police force gets an artillery piece, then you can bring up militarization.[/QUOTE]One that isn't deactivated and painted for promotional use*
Because I know someone's going to bring up Sheriff Arpaio's Paladin.
[QUOTE=spiritlol;47051993]This is absolutely awful but the angle that this article taking is really upsetting me.
The whole "militarization" of the police force is such a stupid idea. Police have been using military equipment since they've been formed, this is nothing new. Call me when a police force gets an artillery piece, then you can bring up militarization. By placing all the blame on the militarization you're externalizing it from the police and onto their equipment. The increase of Swat activities, especially for search warrants, is not militarization, it's misuse of power and poor decision making. If you have shit cops with military equipment they'll still be shit cops if you take it away. Also, referring to a flashbang as a "war-device" is such fear-mongering holy shit, it's one of the most effective non-lethal devices ever created.[/QUOTE]
Problems arise when you have a corrupt police force somewhere that is armed better than the public.
How can you fight corruption if politics fail and you're out gunned?
Just look at venezuela right now, the corrupt government just passed a law authorizing the military to open fire on peaceful protesters and the riot police has all but been replaced with the national guard.
Another reason why I never plan to live in america.
This should have nothing to do with "militarization" of the police force. We've had SWAT teams forever. This is just straight fucking negligence on the court's part for dropping charges.
You want to see a militarized police force, look at Venezuela, or any of those other fucked-up little hellhole countries with corrupt leaders.
[QUOTE=Gar92;47052270]Another reason why I never plan to live in america.[/QUOTE]
Well with that kind of ignorance you'd fit right in!
[quote]Weekley was the first officer to enter the home, seconds after a flashbang grenade – a war device created by the British SAS in the 1960s to disorient with a blinding flash and a temporarily deafening noise – was lobbed into it.[/quote]
Wow, I knew people loved sensationalizing police actions but that is a whole new level that I never expected. There is barely a single sentence in this article that doesn't mention military, war, or 'tactical operations', and less than half of it actually talks about the case.
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;47052310]Well with that kind of ignorance you'd fit right in![/QUOTE]
No... I'm sorry, but I'll stick with my opinion. Any Country that could drop charges like this in the 21st century has totalitarian state written all over it.
[QUOTE=Gar92;47052332]No... I'm sorry, but I'll stick with my opinion. Any Country that could drop charges like this in the 21st century has totalitarian state written all over it.[/QUOTE]
This case went to trial twice and both times the jury failed to return a verdict. If this genuinely is what people are making it out to be then it's the fault of the prosecution for not building a decent case.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;47052348]wasn't there a bunch of studies linked in a few articles back about how prosecutors against police defendants have to fight a really steep uphill battle?[/QUOTE]
Prosecution is always an uphill battle, innocent until proven guilty is the basic principle our courts operate on. If you don't get a guilty on the first try, more often than not you're not getting another, and when you do it's even less likely to get a conviction.
[QUOTE=LSK;47051995]He's being sarcastic mate, because Simplemac is talking shit (quite possibly being sarcastic himself, but not well executed at all).[/QUOTE]
How could it not be sarcastic?
Even the craziest of the crazy wouldn't be able to say "sometimes you just need to kill a baby" with a serious face.
[QUOTE=Gar92;47052332]No... I'm sorry, but I'll stick with my opinion. Any Country that could drop charges like this in the 21st century has totalitarian state written all over it.[/QUOTE]
Our judicial system has many mishaps but no country is perfect or entirely safe. I seem to remember hearing about some sort of "tension" between Ireland and Britain that happened. I think domestic terrorism was involved???
[QUOTE=Gar92;47052332]No... I'm sorry, but I'll stick with my opinion. Any Country that could drop charges like this in the 21st century has totalitarian state written all over it.[/QUOTE]
Yes the entire country chose to drop the charges, as all courts are run by a single entity
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;47052728]Yes the entire country chose to drop the charges, as all courts are run by a single entity[/QUOTE]
The court should be run by the people, for the people, but it's not.
Ask anyone if it's ok for a SWAT officer to shoot a 7-year-old that was sleeping on the couch, blame the mother for it and have that immediately dismissed as a lie, and not even get charged for it. They'll say "hell no".
So why did he get off?
Because the word of a police officer carries way more legal weight than a normal citizen. Police have, in the simplest of terms, an immunity to the law. This isn't always the case, of course, but there's no reason why this guy got off, why the guy who killed eric garner got off, unless police are "worth" more than civilians.
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