Sony wins a temporary restraining order against George Hotz - Polidicks

[release] Sony has convinced a federal court to issue a temporary restraining order that bars a hacker from distributing his technology for running unauthorized software on the PlayStation 3. U.S. District Court Judge Susan Illston in San Francisco found that Sony had submitted sufficient evidence to show that it would suffer "irreparable harm" if the hacker, George Hotz, continued to distribute his technology for circumventing the PS3's firmware that's meant to prevent running a separate operating system on the video-game console. The court also ruled that Sony had submitted "substantial evidence" showing Hotz had violated the Digital Millennium Copyright Act by making it possible to run pirated software on the PS3. Stopping others from running such software was in the public's interest, as it prevented copyright violations. The order, issued Wednesday, bars Hotz from "creating, posting online, marketing, advertising, promoting, installing, distributing, providing, or otherwise trafficking in any circumvention technology, products, services, methods, codes, software tools, devices, component or part thereof." Hotz is also barred from posting links to any Web site offering or promoting such technology. The court ordered Hotz to turn over to authorities "computers, hard drives, CDs, DVDs, USB sticks, and any other storage devices" on which circumvention technology is stored. Hotz's lawyers had argued that the court did not have jurisdiction over the case, because Hotz does not live in California. The court disagreed, saying Hotz's alleged activities had an impact on California. Illston said Hotz could bring up the argument again at a later date. Sony [URL="http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/attacks/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229000603"]sued Hotz[/URL] this month, along with two other hackers in Europe and 100 "John Does" who worked on and distributed technology to circumvent the PS3's "technology prevention measure" for unauthorized software. Hotz, aka "Geohot," first gained notoriety in 2007 when he hacked his Apple iPhone in order to use the smartphone on multiple carriers' networks. Apple at the time had an exclusive deal with AT&T. In late 2009, he turned his attention to the PS3 and documented his attempt to hack the system on his Web site.[/release] And then we were disappointed. :smith: [url=http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/attacks/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229200066&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News]Source[/url]

Fuck. This is not a good precedent to set.

God damn it Sony grow the fuck up. No one likes a petulant child pitching a hissy fit.

seriously Sony, wtf...

Preventing him from saying anything else will make the signing codes suddenly remove themselves from the internet, right?

This judge a fucking retard right?

[QUOTE=Psycho_Shadow;27772679]Preventing him from saying anything else will make the signing codes suddenly remove themselves from the internet, right?[/QUOTE] nope, but you were probably expecting that answer [editline]31st January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=mobrockers;27772703]This judge a fucking retard right?[/QUOTE] Eh, San Francisco

Well, they just achieved fuck all. It's on the internet. Trying to get it off would be like trying to remove all the ex-girlfriend pictures that said ex doesn't want there. It's not going to happen.

nothing will happen

I will await the time when we will get better, up to date judges.

Fail overflow worked out and released the signing keys Geo made a firmware capable of running homebrew Someone worked out how to run game backups

Would it be considered warez to post the key right here? I don't think it would. [url]http://i54.tinypic.com/2guji8p.jpg[/url]

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Sony is the stuff stealing, child endangering bitch in this relationship, clearly.

[QUOTE=Van-man;27773459]Eh, San Francisco[/QUOTE] Then let the rainbows shine

[QUOTE=BANNED USER;27774754]Sony is the stuff stealing, child endangering bitch in this relationship, clearly.[/QUOTE] not really

Sorry about this being late, last night was the first I heard about it.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;27778309]not really[/QUOTE] the clearly was supposed to be the sarcasm indicator.

This is just temporary, I have a good feeling he'll win the actual case. iPhone jailbreaking set a good precedent.

[QUOTE=BANNED USER;27779170]the clearly was supposed to be the sarcasm indicator.[/QUOTE] It wasn't very obvious. Try using the sarcasm punctuator next time so people can't purposely misconstrue what you say to get agrees.

Are you guys seriously complaining about this? It sucks for us but legally and, in my opinion, morally it's all sound. If your life's work was to create a product that you could profit from by sales of the product and subsequent products used with it, you would do EXACTLY the same thing if someone started trying to chip away at your profits like this.

[QUOTE=Canesfan;27782999]Are you guys seriously complaining about this? It sucks for us but legally and, in my opinion, morally it's all sound. If your life's work was to create a product that you could profit from by sales of the product and subsequent products used with it, you would do EXACTLY the same thing if someone started trying to chip away at your profits like this.[/QUOTE] Geohot is against piracy, though.

[QUOTE=Canesfan;27782999]Are you guys seriously complaining about this? It sucks for us but legally and, in my opinion, morally it's all sound. If your life's work was to create a product that you could profit from by sales of the product and subsequent products used with it, you would do EXACTLY the same thing if someone started trying to chip away at your profits like this.[/QUOTE] Ugh.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;27779825]This is just temporary, I have a good feeling he'll win the actual case. iPhone jailbreaking set a good precedent.[/QUOTE] Fucking this! Thank you Zeke for inserting some damn sanity. This Fuck Sony bandwagon is retarded just like the Fuck Microsoft bandwagon. For fuck's sake is just a temporary restraining order....its not a full blown lawsuit. They have learned...not as much as we hoped but I think they've leveled up to 13 year old girl bitching about her BFF.

In most cases when any kind of "proof" is given a TRO will be granted. To be honest this means nothing. We might here more news tomorrow as each side was told to meet by February 1st.

[QUOTE=Lazor;27783034]Geohot is against piracy, though.[/QUOTE] That's all good and well but I can't help but feel that's about as legitimate as Limewire being (really, not just a press release every once in a while or something) against file sharing. The problem I see here is that on PC, at least, there are real, legitimate uses for sites like TPB or .iso download sites. If you've bought a game in the past and want to reinstall but lost a key or something, there's no problem with people using them. But what about on the PS3? I've not done my research here, so can someone explain what kind of legitimate uses this has on the PS3?

[QUOTE=Canesfan;27785074]That's all good and well but I can't help but feel that's about as legitimate as Limewire being (really, not just a press release every once in a while or something) against file sharing. The problem I see here is that on PC, at least, there are real, legitimate uses for sites like TPB or .iso download sites. If you've bought a game in the past and want to reinstall but lost a key or something, there's no problem with people using them. But what about on the PS3? I've not done my research here, so can someone explain what kind of legitimate uses this has on the PS3?[/QUOTE] Modding games, homebrew games, and applications. Hopefully FOF will release a way to enable linux on the PS3 soon. the only way to pirate games on GeoHot's firmware is to use a hacky work-around to install the game as a package. most pirates are using firmwares made by other people.

[QUOTE=Swilly;27783177]Fucking this! Thank you Zeke for inserting some damn sanity. This Fuck Sony bandwagon is retarded just like the Fuck Microsoft bandwagon. For fuck's sake is just a temporary restraining order....its not a full blown lawsuit. They have learned...not as much as we hoped but I think they've leveled up to 13 year old girl bitching about her BFF.[/QUOTE] Except Sony DID sue him and the way Sony is acting here is terrible And why the fuck does California have jurisdiction here anyway?

You bought the PS3 hardware. Why isn't it your right to modify the software on it? its not like you're selling your own console based on the ps3 with a different os

[QUOTE=jlj1;27774393]Fail overflow worked out and released the signing keys Geo made a firmware capable of running homebrew [b]Someone worked out how to run game backups[/b][/QUOTE] I don't think geohot or anyone else at failoverflow would want that. One of their goals is to circumvent piracy to lighten their image I believe.