• Russian-speakers who want to immigrate to Israel could need DNA test to prove Jewishness
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A [QUOTE]number of people from the former Soviet Union wishing to immigrate to Israel could be subjected to DNA testing to prove their Jewishness, the Prime Minister’s Office said Sunday. The policy was reported in Maariv on Monday, one day after the Israeli paper revealed that a19-year-old woman from the former Soviet Union was required to take the test to qualify for a Birthright Israel trip. The Prime Minister’s Office confirmed that many Jews from the FSU who were born out-of-wedlock can be required to bring DNA confirmation of Jewish heritage in order to be allowed to immigrate as a Jew. A source in the PMO told Maariv that the consul’s procedure, approved by the legal department of the Interior Ministry, states that a Russian-speaking child born out-of-wedlock is eligible to receive an Israeli immigration visa if the birth was registered before the child turned 3. Otherwise a DNA test to prove Jewish parentage is necessary. A Foreign Ministry spokesman said that the decision to require DNA testing for Russian Jews is based on the recommendations of Nativ, an educational program under the auspices of the Prime Minister’s Office to help Jews from the FSU immigrate to Israel. The issue cuts to the heart of Israel’s Law of Return, which allows anybody with a Jewish parent, grandparent or spouse to move to Israel and be eligible for citizenship. Determining who is a Jew — a definition which has evolved along with the religion’s many streams — has led the interior Ministry to create a somewhat byzantine system of checks and rules and has sometimes led applicants, especially converts to Judaism, to fight for the right to immigrate in Israeli courts. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.timesofisrael.com/russian-speakers-who-want-to-immigrate-could-need-dna-test/[/url]
I met a russian jew once. He got into fights with the other kids all the time, including me. Eventually he was expelled for drinking beer in the restrooms. He was 12.
This is blatant racism. Since when does religion requires a person to have some sort of bloodline or a previous religious heritage? Even Islam or Christianity doesn't require a person to have a previous religious background to move into a state.
[QUOTE=BCell;41718389]This is blatant racism. Since when does religion requires a person to have some sort of bloodline or a previous religious heritage? Even Islam or Christianity doesn't require a person to have a previous religious background to move into a state.[/QUOTE] In this case they use "Jew" or "Jewish" when speaking about ethnicity, not about religion. At least it seems so.
And the U.S supports this country?
[QUOTE=Blackfire76;41718867]And the U.S supports this country?[/QUOTE] And how so.
[QUOTE=BCell;41718389]This is blatant racism. Since when does religion requires a person to have some sort of bloodline or a previous religious heritage? Even Islam or Christianity doesn't require a person to have a previous religious background to move into a state.[/QUOTE] seriously how is it so many people don't know this? yes judaism is a religion but jewish is also an ethnicity
Yeah, as the saying goes you can draw a jew but you can't draw a christian Among other things jews share a list of genetic diseases; they are an ethnic group
[QUOTE=Kefirman;41718800]In this case they use "Jew" or "Jewish" when speaking about ethnicity, not about religion. At least it seems so.[/QUOTE] And they are even Afro-asiatic, like most of the Muslim nations
Israel - supporting and pushing multiculturalism around the world. Except in Israel.
[QUOTE=BCell;41718389]This is blatant racism. Since when does religion requires a person to have some sort of bloodline or a previous religious heritage? Even Islam or Christianity doesn't require a person to have a previous religious background to move into a state.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that to be considered truely Jewish, your mother must be Jewish. Not that it makes it any better as such, just clearing that up.
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[QUOTE=BloodYScar;41720307]Israel - supporting and pushing multiculturalism around the world. Except in Israel.[/QUOTE] since when (did stormfront conpiracies constitute reality)
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;41720699]since when (did stormfront conpiracies constitute reality)[/QUOTE] open your eyes sheeple jews have infiltirated every facet of society [img]http://www.marcsky.com/Images/Star-of-David.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=lanhacker1488;41720875]open your eyes sheeple jews have infiltirated every facet of society [img]http://www.marcsky.com/Images/Star-of-David.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] [t]http://i.cubeupload.com/ZhVBXF.png[/t]
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;41718907]seriously how is it so many people don't know this? yes judaism is a religion but jewish is also an ethnicity[/QUOTE] To be fair, that's still fucked up, only letting people emigrate to your country if they're the same as the majority ethnic group? Heavy slapped out man.
[QUOTE=bravehat;41720956]To be fair, that's still fucked up, only letting people emigrate to your country if they're the same as the majority ethnic group? Heavy slapped out man.[/QUOTE]Well I can understand why they don't allow Islamic extremists in as they would attempt to beat the shit out of any Jews (or blow them up) but I don't understand why they wouldn't allow any other ethnicity. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Racial stereotype" - Craptasket))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Badballer;41721026]Well I can understand why they don't allow Muslims in as they would attempt to beat the shit out of any Jews (or blow them up) but I don't understand why they wouldn't allow any other ethnicity.[/QUOTE] You realise that you don't need to be Middle Eastern to be a Muslim right? There's not like a Muslim ethnicity or anything, literally anyone can be a Muslim.
[QUOTE=Badballer;41721026]as they would attempt to beat the shit out of any Jews (or blow them up)[/QUOTE] no
[QUOTE=BCell;41718389]This is blatant racism. Since when does religion requires a person to have some sort of bloodline or a previous religious heritage? Even Islam or Christianity doesn't require a person to have a previous religious background to move into a state.[/QUOTE]It's Israel, the most racist country in the world probably, what do you expect?
[QUOTE=Badballer;41721026]Well I can understand why they don't allow Muslims in as they would attempt to beat the shit out of any Jews (or blow them up) but I don't understand why they wouldn't allow any other ethnicity.[/QUOTE] Wow man, that's pretty racist you know
[QUOTE=BCell;41718389]This is blatant racism. Since when does religion requires a person to have some sort of bloodline or a previous religious heritage? Even Islam or Christianity doesn't require a person to have a previous religious background to move into a state.[/QUOTE] Judaism is a pretty closed religion. [editline]5th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Badballer;41721026]Well I can understand why they don't allow Muslims in as they would attempt to beat the shit out of any Jews (or blow them up) but I don't understand why they wouldn't allow any other ethnicity.[/QUOTE] Way to stereotype.
Fuck off, Israel.
[QUOTE=Ericson666;41723378]Wow man, that's pretty racist you know[/QUOTE] its not racist it's just ignorant muslims arent a race
[QUOTE=bravehat;41720956]To be fair, that's still fucked up, only letting people emigrate to your country if they're the same as the majority ethnic group? Heavy slapped out man.[/QUOTE] well non-jews are allowed to emigrate to israel, it's just that if you can prove you're of jewish descent you have an instant free pass. and although i am entirely against a nation that is founded on racial lines you can kind of see where the jews are coming from, being the most heavily discriminated group in history really
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;41723728]its not racist it's just ignorant muslims arent a race[/QUOTE] uh no he's a bigot saying every muslim is a jew-hating terrorist
does that mean i can go to israel on my jew roots?
wait you have to be jewish now to enter? i'm sure theres a lawyer joke in here somewhere but isn't judaism like a religion not an ethnicity, im sure if you ran a dna test on your average russian you'd find some mongol in there too but that doesn't mean they are mongolian
[QUOTE=Sableye;41729884]wait you have to be jewish now to enter? i'm sure theres a lawyer joke in here somewhere but isn't judaism like a religion not an ethnicity, im sure if you ran a dna test on your average russian you'd find some mongol in there too but that doesn't mean they are mongolian[/QUOTE] it would mean mongolian would be part of their ethnic background meaning they are mongolian, like saying someone is irish, english, french, basically a mutt
This was always the case in Israel - in order to immigrate and live legally you had to be of Jewish ancestry. Otherwise you didn't get a nationality.
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