• ‘Everything I’ve Done Is 100 Percent Proper,’ Trump Says of Russia Inquiry
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[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/06/us/politics/trump-russia-mueller.html?ribbon-ad-idx=3&rref=politics&module=Ribbon&version=context&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Politics&pgtype=article"]source[/URL] [QUOTE]WASHINGTON — President Trump again insisted on Saturday that he was not under investigation by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel investigating Russian influence on the 2016 election, adding that “there’s been no collusion, there’s been no crime.” “Everything I’ve done is 100 percent proper,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference at Camp David, where he was asked about a [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/us/politics/trump-sessions-russia-mcgahn.html"]New York Times report[/URL] that he had pressed Attorney General Jeff Sessions not to recuse himself from the Russia inquiry. “That is what I do, is I do things proper.” The president said the Times article, which reported that Mr. Trump had sought to protect himself by keeping Mr. Sessions in charge of the investigation, was “off,” though he did not elaborate. The two primary issues that Mr. Mueller appears to be investigating are whether Mr. Trump obstructed justice while in office and whether there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Mr. Trump was at the presidential retreat to meet with Republican congressional leaders and cabinet officials as they fashion a strategy for their 2018 legislative agenda.On one of the most pressing issues — whether to renew protections for the young immigrants known as Dreamers — the president said he hoped he could [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/us/politics/senate-trump-immigration-daca-deal.html"]strike a deal with Democrats[/URL], but added that there would be no deal unless it included construction of a border wall with Mexico, a condition Democrats are unlikely to accept. [/QUOTE]
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Saying that he's [I]not even under investigation,[/I] isn't just dishonest, it's insane. All signs point to a single conclusion: Trump is extremely unwell. He deserves to face justice, but as his dementia progresses, I think it more likely that he'll up in a care facility with no memory of any of this shit.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;53032653]Saying that he's [I]not even under investigation,[/I] isn't just dishonest, it's insane. All signs point to a single conclusion: Trump is extremely unwell. He deserves to face justice, but as his dementia progresses, I think it more likely that he'll up in a care facility with no memory of any of this shit.[/QUOTE] Even an ass like trump having dementia or alzheimer's would be a bit sad. absolutely no one deserves loss of mental faculties.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;53032653]Saying that he's [I]not even under investigation,[/I] isn't just dishonest, it's insane. All signs point to a single conclusion: Trump is extremely unwell. He deserves to face justice, but as his dementia progresses, I think it more likely that he'll up in a care facility with no memory of any of this shit.[/QUOTE] I feel like saying he outright has dementia without any actual confirmation is pretty wrong still. Like yeah he shows plenty of signs, but we don't know for sure. There's no official diagnosis and therefore honestly by asserting it as truth we're in the wrong.
[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;53032667]I feel like saying he outright has dementia without any actual confirmation is pretty wrong still. Like yeah he shows plenty of signs, but we don't know for sure. There's no official diagnosis and therefore honestly by asserting it as truth we're in the wrong.[/QUOTE] Yeah that's like speculating that a president wasn't actually born in the country.
If everything you've done is 100% proper, why constantly allude that the investigation is bullshit? Oh right, Obama/Deep State, I forgot. Carry on!
Even if there [I]was[/I] no collusion, there was a flagrant attempt at obstruction of justice. Trump literally fired the head of the FBI when he wouldn't stop an investigation. I don't think it's even possible to attempt to obstruct justice more than that.
[QUOTE]“That is what I do, is I do things proper.”[/QUOTE] Except for all of those times I didn't do things proper.
[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;53032667]I feel like saying he outright has dementia without any actual confirmation is pretty wrong still. Like yeah he shows plenty of signs, but we don't know for sure. There's no official diagnosis and therefore honestly by asserting it as truth we're in the wrong.[/QUOTE] It may be unconfirmed, but frankly the warning signs are starting to get hard to ignore. If Trump isn't currently suffering from the early stages of Alzheimers, or some other degenerative cognitive condition, then the only other solution that really makes sense is a psychological disorder. I think, at this point, we [B][U]have[/U][/B] to question his mental and emotional fitness. He is the president of the United States, and openly making threats of nuclear warfare against hostile countries. If he has lost his grip on reality and rationality, we [B]need[/B] to know, and we [B]need[/B] to do something about it. [editline]7th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;53032720]If everything you've done is 100% proper, why constantly allude that the investigation is bullshit? Oh right, Obama/Deep State, I forgot. Carry on![/QUOTE] This is the man who repeatedly asserted that the election was rigged when he feared that he was going to lose, and when he won (by the skin of his teeth, on a ridiculous technicality), he realized that his conspiracy theory about a rigged election had to be updated to jive with the new data. He had [I]won[/I], despite trying to convince everybody that the election was rigged. Therefore, [I]they must not have rigged it hard enough.[/I] Enter his absurd "Election Integrity Commission," pretending to search for evidence of "millions" of votes from illegal immigrants to explain his losing the popular vote, only to be quietly disbanded after everybody moved on. Trump is an insecure narcissist of cosmic proportions, and one whose grasp on reality is tenuous at best. Whether or not the threats facing him are real or imagined, he'll concoct whatever delusions are necessary to ease his fears that he is anything other than a Very Stable Genius who is a Brilliant Businessman and a Real Winner.
[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;53032667]I feel like saying he outright has dementia without any actual confirmation is pretty wrong still. Like yeah he shows plenty of signs, but we don't know for sure. There's no official diagnosis and therefore honestly by asserting it as truth we're in the wrong.[/QUOTE] There's not official diagnosis but honestly I'm not sure the case for him actually having dementia is a very slim one and there should definitely be a lot more concern about the possibility. People seem bizarrely blase about it. I'm not sure it should it should be asserted as an out and out fact right here and now, but the possibility needs to be taken a lot more seriously Listening to the man speak compared to interviews from the nineties and early oughts, something has clearly changed. He's had that narcissistic streak forever and always tended to self aggrandize, but he's definitely not as clear, concise and focused as he used to be I think this interview is good for contrast and comparison. There's none of the word salad, the repetition, and strange, meandering tangents that have become a staple of his public speaking and interviews [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4XfyYFa9yo[/media] I'm of the opinion that something ain't right and people aren't worried enough
I bet it's stress. Both from the responsibilities he now has (despite golfing all the time), the fact there's checks & balances in place to either keep his stupid ideas from coming to fruition or neuters most of them, and the fact many people hate him for his personality and political ideas. Might even have realized he's been played a puppet in a scheme, yet tries hard to tell himself he isn't just that.
[quote]Everything I’ve done is 100 percent proper[/quote] This is 1:1 to "I am not a crook" [editline]7th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Sitkero;53032941]There's not official diagnosis but honestly I'm not sure the case for him actually having dementia is a very slim one and there should definitely be a lot more concern about the possibility. People seem bizarrely blase about it. I'm not sure it should it should be asserted as an out and out fact right here and now, but the possibility needs to be taken a lot more seriously Listening to the man speak compared to interviews from the nineties and early oughts, something has clearly changed. He's had that narcissistic streak forever and always tended to self aggrandize, but he's definitely not as clear, concise and focused as he used to be I think this interview is good for contrast and comparison. There's none of the word salad, the repetition, and strange, meandering tangents that have become a staple of his public speaking and interviews [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4XfyYFa9yo[/media] I'm of the opinion that something ain't right and people aren't worried enough[/QUOTE] Go back even further to 1980 [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAgJAxkALyc[/media] This version of Trump probably would actually make a decent president, to be honest. The fuck happened
[QUOTE=Van-man;53033013]I bet it's stress. Both from the responsibilities he now has (despite golfing all the time), the fact there's checks & balances in place to either keep his stupid ideas from coming to fruition or neuters most of them, and the fact many people hate him for his personality and political ideas. Might even have realized he's been played a puppet in a scheme, yet tries hard to tell himself he isn't just that.[/QUOTE] Nah. While it's the single most stressful job in the Western world, he's the only president in my memory that's been [I]this[/I] scatterbrained and belligerent. Given how narcissistic he is I don't doubt one iota he'd find a way to 'win' if he thought he was being played. [QUOTE=TheBorealis;53032660]Even an ass like trump having dementia or alzheimer's would be a bit sad. absolutely no one deserves loss of mental faculties.[/QUOTE] Idunno, I think it'd suit him well.
[QUOTE=Van-man;53033013]I bet it's stress. Both from the responsibilities he now has (despite golfing all the time), the fact there's checks & balances in place to either keep his stupid ideas from coming to fruition or neuters most of them, and the fact many people hate him for his personality and political ideas. Might even have realized he's been played a puppet in a scheme, yet tries hard to tell himself he isn't just that.[/QUOTE] This is probably the very first time in Donnie's life that someone has told him "No" / being in a position where he can't simply buy influence. [editline]7th January 2018[/editline] I mean his first wife that he raped probably said "No" before but that's a different story.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;53033064]This is 1:1 to "I am not a crook" [editline]7th January 2018[/editline] Go back even further to 1980 [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAgJAxkALyc[/media] [B]This version of Trump probably would actually make a decent president, to be honest.[/B] The fuck happened[/QUOTE] Umm... I don't think so lol. Still racist money grubbing cunt
[QUOTE=TheTalon;53033064]This version of Trump probably would actually make a decent president, to be honest. The fuck happened[/QUOTE] He's always been an idiot. He's just old and senile now too.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;53033064]This is 1:1 to "I am not a crook" [editline]7th January 2018[/editline] Go back even further to 1980 [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAgJAxkALyc[/media] This version of Trump probably would actually make a decent president, to be honest. The fuck happened[/QUOTE] he was a racist, exploiting conman back then too he wouldnt be too different from today the gop may've been more reasonable though instead of going all in on him and being his lapdog
I still have no idea what the fuck happened during the election and why there were literally no desirable candidates for the presidential position whatsoever. More importantly it is utterly bewildering that it came down to two of the most absurd possible candidates with people apparently voting for them.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;53033204]Umm... I don't think so lol. Still racist money grubbing cunt[/QUOTE] That and he would just be oil thirsty. At least todays Trump bashes the Bush war. Only thing he needs is a last name that starts with "B" and ends with "I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside the Oval office"
The oval office no longer actually exists and ever since the Kennedy assassination it has been a holographic projection created by lizard people so they wouldn't have to come down from their mothership in order to control Earth.
[QUOTE=Sitkero;53032941]I'm of the opinion that something ain't right and people aren't worried enough[/QUOTE] I would pin it down to very few people actually care about mental illness in this country.
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;53033292]I would pin it down to very few people actually care about mental illness in this country.[/QUOTE] One of the biggest problems we seem to have is a lack of mental health care [QUOTE=genkaz92;53033288]The oval office no longer actually exists and ever since the Kennedy assassination it has been a holographic projection created by lizard people so they wouldn't have to come down from their mothership in order to control Earth.[/QUOTE] I hear the moon is actually a holographic projection to hide the mo-
[QUOTE=J!NX;53033295]One of the biggest problems we seem to have is a lack of mental health care I hear the moon is actually a holographic projection to hide the mo-[/QUOTE] The holographic projection to hide the real moon was created because the real moon has a rock that is shifted three centimeters to a coordinate which allows people to mathematically compute how to invent teleportation, however they couldn't move the rock back because it was paper glued to the surface with the best paper glue in the galaxy. The holographic projection is hiding a matrix rendering glitch that definitively confirms that our entire reality is simulated. The holographic projection is hiding an identical holographic projection and the moon has never existed to begin with, and the tidal forces of the planet are actually being controlled by wizards. The real moon is hiding the holographic projection. I feel that this sort of thing could probably be stuffed in one of those meme joke images with the progressively more mentally advanced dude that was used for whomst'dve
I don't disagree that we can hold concerns about his mental health, but saying it outright is still the same level as "That Muslim-nig-er Obongo wasn't born in America" as if it is an objective fact. The only part where the comparison falls apart is in questioning the concept because Obama's birth controversy is based in obvious racism and Trump's mental inability is based on actual evidence and factual observation.
[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;53033574]I don't disagree that we can hold concerns about his mental health, but saying it outright is still the same level as "That Muslim-nig-er Obongo wasn't born in America" as if it is an objective fact. The only part where the comparison falls apart is in questioning the concept because Obama's birth controversy is based in obvious racism and Trump's mental inability is based on actual evidence and factual observation.[/QUOTE] Except Obama's birthplace was irrelevant to his capacity as President.
[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;53033574]I don't disagree that we can hold concerns about his mental health, but saying it outright is still the same level as "That Muslim-nig-er Obongo wasn't born in America" as if it is an objective fact. [B]The only part where the comparison falls apart is in questioning the concept because Obama's birth controversy is based in obvious racism and Trump's mental inability is based on actual evidence and factual observation[/B].[/QUOTE] So, you mean, the most important part...? You can't say that calling Obama a Muslim and questioning Trump's mental health are in any way similar when you yourself admit that one is borne of racism and the other is borne of observation. Questioning Trump's mental health isn't comparable to questioning whether Obama was a secret Muslim Kenyan who wanted Sharia Law, because unlike the latter, Trump is demonstrably symptomatic of a degenerative neurological condition. No, it's not yet a proven fact, but I think there is ample enough evidence for us to be taking the possibility that our president is mentally, emotionally, or cognitively impaired extremely seriously.
[QUOTE=IKTM;53033652]Except Obama's birthplace was irrelevant to his capacity as President.[/QUOTE] But it would in theory disqualify him from presidency in the first place if he wasn't a natural born citizen. Again though that's irrelevant because it's not the content of the lie that's the problem it's the fact that people are making outright unproven claims as if they are fact simply because it suits their agenda. [QUOTE=Big Dumb American;53033873]So, you mean, the most important part...? You can't say that calling Obama a Muslim and questioning Trump's mental health are in any way similar when you yourself admit that one is borne of racism and the other is borne of observation. Questioning Trump's mental health isn't comparable to questioning whether Obama was a secret Muslim Kenyan who wanted Sharia Law, because unlike the latter, Trump is demonstrably symptomatic of a degenerative neurological condition. No, it's not yet a proven fact, but I think there is ample enough evidence for us to be taking the possibility that our president is mentally, emotionally, or cognitively impaired extremely seriously.[/QUOTE] Okay? I literally said it's valid to question it and be concerned about it. You literally claimed he outright has dementia, as a fact. You claimed to factually know that he has dementia specifically. I didn't know you had a confidential and comprehensive doctor's diagnosis of Trump's mental health that said he had dementia? It'd sure be great if you could share it instead of sitting here and moving goal posts about to argue semantics of a simple flawed comparison with me when the issue isn't even the comparison it's that you're outright making unproven claims and presenting them as facts. All the evidence we have points to Trump being mentally unstable and maybe mentally ill, but there isn't definitive proof. The lack of proper proof for your claim is the problem here, not that he probably has mental issues. I shouldn't have to argue semantics with you of all people, but here we are, you've jumped into the method of arguing that I've grown to expect from certain notorious right leaning members of this forum who do it in every thread. I get that you're upset about Trump, I get that he's fucking shit up that effects your life, I get that you're mad. I've casually watched your posts get progressively more and more heated as the year's gone on, I've agreed with many of them, but recently you've often made some comments that I have found to be pretty on the line of what I would consider a bit too far now and then, but this is actually too far, you've gone from making reasonably emotionally driven claims to actually making stuff up. I'm saying this hoping you'll actually open your eyes and step back for a minute to realise that, because I honestly respect you and don't want to see you end up how I see other certain members of this forum.
[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;53034447]But it would in theory disqualify him from presidency in the first place if he wasn't a natural born citizen. Again though that's irrelevant because it's not the content of the lie that's the problem it's the fact that people are making outright unproven claims as if they are fact simply because it suits their agenda.[/quote] It wouldn't matter if he was born in Kenya, because he'd still be a US citizen because his mother was a US citizen. [I]That's[/I] what makes the whole "he was born in Kenya!" argument stupid as all get-out.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;53032653]Saying that he's [I]not even under investigation,[/I] isn't just dishonest, it's insane. All signs point to a single conclusion: Trump is extremely unwell. He deserves to face justice, but as his dementia progresses, I think it more likely that he'll up in a care facility with no memory of any of this shit.[/QUOTE] I almost forgot that you are a doctor (not).
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