China trying to stop angry patients from killing doctors - Polidicks

[QUOTE] BEIJING – China plans to beef up security in its hospitals to prevent the deaths of doctors and nurses in attacks by patients' relatives outraged over the cost and quality of care. Experts say that without significant health care changes to tackle the causes of conflict, the measures will not improve safety. Attacks on medical staff, mostly by angry relatives, killed seven people and injured 28 in 2012, according to the National Health and Family Planning Commission, which issued security guidelines with the Ministry of Public Security, China's police force. The guidelines suggest that the number of security guards in each hospital should be at least one per 20 patient beds, or no less than 3% of medical staff. The guidelines also call for alarm buttons, security doors and scanning equipment to detect weapons, plus more camera surveillance and foot patrols. Besides the increased hardware, the authorities say better mediation of medical disputes is necessary and more education to "guide patients to safeguard their rights in a rational manner." [B]Emotions often run high at Chinese hospitals, a result of resentment over expensive and hard-to-access medical treatment. Anger can be compounded by the need to pay bribes to guarantee good service and supplement doctors' usually low wages.[/b] [url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/10/24/china-hospital-attacks/3178633/[/url] [/QUOTE] Why in the fuck would you think that killing a doctor is ever a good idea, they're there to help, it's not their fault the health care system is fucked up and over charging peiplet. Literally nothing good could come from killing a doctor

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42639151]Why in the fuck would you think that killing a doctor is ever a good idea, they're there to help, it's not their fault the health care system is fucked up and over charging peiplet. Literally nothing good could come from killing a doctor[/QUOTE] Angry people are mostly irrational.

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42639151]Why in the fuck would you think that killing a doctor is ever a good idea, they're there to help, it's not their fault the health care system is fucked up and over charging peiplet. Literally nothing good could come from killing a doctor[/QUOTE] Have you never been truly blind with rage/grief/sadness? Under normal circumstances these people would agree with you but when it's literally a life or death situation and you can't get help because you don't have the money to bribe someone, they'll see things very different. Just think about that for a second. Dying in a hospital because you don't have the money.

Yes I understand why they're doing it. If you read the article though it says doctors are severely underpaid, which opens the business for bribery. I know the stages of grief all to well, I've had a few people very close to me pass.

That's fucked if the doctor's wage is so low you have to resort to bribery to be treated properly.

So the doctors are so underpaid that they'll screw up the service intentionally? Pretty screwed up.

Did you know any of the medical staff that were killed? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("dumb snipe" - postal))[/highlight]

This is something that government hospitals in India face as well. What usually is the cause of all this is that people somehow expect doctors to be miracle workers. They bring in a patient that is already pretty close to dead (most likely because they either thought he would get better on his own before things got worse and tried "traditional" medication which did fuck all). When the inevitable happens and the patient dies, the relatives choose to blame the ineffectiveness of the doctors for the death of their loved one, rather than realize they made some pretty poor choices. I don't blame them for thinking that at the time what with the grief and being irrational from it and all, but that doesn't excuse them from trying to beat up the only people trying to do everything they can to save them. This doesn't disprove what breakyourfac has stated, but it seems strange, considering these men of medicine have also taken a Hippocratic oath, and yet allow people to die because of their own financial misfortune. I was unfortunate enough to witness this in action at the hospital where I was undergoing physiotherapy at from a motorcycle accident back in March - a family had brought a relative in that was pretty much close to his last legs already, having attempted to solve the problem through homeopathic treatment. Fifteen minutes after he was wheeled into the same ward as me, he suffered from cardiac arrest and I watched a full team of doctors try to bring him back, only for him to die. The relatives went absolutely wild with rage - the men threw around a couple of chairs in the visitor's seating area and punched a male orderly, the women just collapsed to the floor and rolled about, wailing, right there on the ward floor. Finally cops were called and they were hauled away as the body was sent to the morgue. From what I heard, the guy's liver failed and he could've lived if they brought him in sooner.

jesus, some people and their tempers..... just because one person died, doesn't really make it right to make two people dead

[QUOTE=Tasm;42639833]Did you know any of the medical staff that were killed?[/QUOTE] this stopped being funny a long time ago

[QUOTE=teh pirate;42641867]this stopped being funny a long time ago[/QUOTE] Its considered a snipe too.