[B]Recent revelations by WikiLeaks show how top American leaders lied, knowingly, to the American public, to American troops, and to the world. Ellen Knickmeyer on the carnage she saw as Baghdad bureau chief.[/B] [quote]In the dark morning hours of Feb. 22, 2006, a group of unknown attackers detonated bombs in the northern Iraqi city of Samarra, bringing down the golden dome of a revered Shia Muslim shrine.
A few hours later, I drove through Baghdad and watched the country descend into civil war. Then the Baghdad bureau chief for The Washington Post, I drove with Iraqi and American colleagues to Sadr City, the sprawling slum on the outskirts of the city. We watched hundreds of black-clad religious militiamen, waving their AK 47s in the air and calling for revenge, in what would be the start to a campaign of sectarian killing and torture.
During visits to Baghdad's morgue over the next two days, I saw Sunni families thronging to find
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the bodies of loved ones killed by the militias. The morgue's computer registrar told the grim-faced families and me that we would have to be patient; the morgue had taken in more than 1,000 bodies since the Samarra bombing, and was way behind on processing corpses.[B] Here's the thing, though: According to then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and his top commanders, it never happened. These killings, these dead, did not exist. According to them, reporters like myself were lying.
"The country is not awash in sectarian violence,'' the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. George Casey said, on talk show after talk show, making the rounds to tell the American home-front not to worry. Civil war? "I don't see it happening, certainly anytime in the near term,” he said, as he denied the surge in sectarian violence.[/B]
[URL="http://osd.dtic.mil/news/Mar2006/20060319_4546.html"]Casey had taken his own drive around Baghdad[/URL] after the bombing of the Samarra mosque and had seen, not executed bodies in the streets but “a lot of bustle, a lot of economic activity. Store fronts crowded, goods stacked up on the street.”
Donald Rumsfeld held a news conference at the Pentagon to say that U.S. press reports of killings—such as mine that estimated 1,300 dead in the immediate aftermath of the bombing, based on what I had seen at the morgue, interviews with Sunni survivors, U.N. and Iraq health officials—were calculated "exaggerated reporting." Iraqi security forces, [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/07/AR2006030700792.html"]he said[/URL], “were taking the lead in controlling the situation,” everything he assured his listeners was “calming.”[/quote]
Full Story here [url]http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-10-25/wikileaks-shows-rumsfeld-and-casey-lied-about-the-iraq-war/[/url]
Rumsfeld is a fucker.
He's ground into the history of lies and deceit concerning the FDA approved Aspartame aswell.
not surprised at all
:sigh:
I'm sorry -off topic-, but how did that Cadillac CTS ad got into the OP? :confused:
Innocent people will die as a result from this leak.
[QUOTE=starpluck;25705338]Innocent people will die as a result from this leak.[/QUOTE]
Because telling the truth about Iraq being on the verge of civil war totally causes more deaths. :downs:
What were we to expect?
Wonder if anything will happen to Rumsfeld.
[QUOTE=starpluck;25705338]Innocent people will die as a result from this leak.[/QUOTE]
Innocent people have died as a result of this not being leaked.
[QUOTE=starpluck;25705497]You guys are terrible at detecting sarcasm.[/QUOTE]
You guys are terrible at illustrating sarcasm through words. How the fuck am I supposed to tell what tone you're saying it. Conveying sarcasm takes objectivity and a certain obvious "In your face" look to it when it is described in words.
[QUOTE=MovingSalad;25705525]You guys are terrible at illustrating sarcasm through words. How the fuck am I supposed to tell what tone you're saying it. Conveying sarcasm takes objectivity and a certain obvious "In your face" look to it when it is described in words.[/QUOTE]
Well the fact that people have been whining about how innocent people will die from that one huge leak a few months ago and it turned out they were wrong, it should of been obvious I was making fun of those idiots. How do you expect people to die from these leaks?
[editline]28th October 2010[/editline]
I understand, however.
Starpluck phrase it like this;
I AM ABOUT TO PLAY ON THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WERE WHINING ABOUT INNOCENT PEOPLE DYING AS A RESULT OF THIS LEAK, BEWARE SARCASM
[sp]Innocent people will die as a result from this leak.[/sp]
WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING
That will probably be enough to get it through their heads.
[QUOTE=RayDark;25705669]
That will probably be enough to get it through their heads.[/QUOTE]
I dunno, this is Facepunch we're talking about. Maybe if he sent a courier to each and every members house to recite an epic poem about sarcasm, about half of them would get it.
[QUOTE=RayDark;25705669][sp]Innocent people will die as a result from this leak.[/sp][/QUOTE]
no they wont your stupid
I can handle a corrupt government but I can't handle an evil one
So many 'controversial, dangerous and secretetive' documents leaked.
Where's the revolution, the riots, the destruction of the white house? I don't feel that these leaks have ANY effect, other then the media whining about it.
Is this just me? If so, I guess I'm just blind then. Maybe it also helps that I don't live in the US. If this is the case, can an American please elaborate.
[QUOTE=SweetSwifter;25706015]So many 'controversial, dangerous and secretetive' documents leaked.
Where's the revolution, the riots, the destruction of the white house? I don't feel that these leaks have ANY effect, other then the media whining about it.
Is this just me? If so, I guess I'm just blind then. Maybe it also helps that I don't live in the US. If this is the case, can an American please elaborate.[/QUOTE]
People are complacent.
[QUOTE=SweetSwifter;25706015]So many 'controversial, dangerous and secretetive' documents leaked.
Where's the revolution, the riots, the destruction of the white house? I don't feel that these leaks have ANY effect, other then the media whining about it.
Is this just me? If so, I guess I'm just blind then. Maybe it also helps that I don't live in the US. If this is the case, can an American please elaborate.[/QUOTE]
Because nobody gives a shit.
Just another indication the government has no qualms with repeatedly telling bold faced lies to the people of the country, and even of the world. This is probably just one of many. :colbert:
I died as a result of the leak
Postin' from my Heavenly Pad with my angel bitches :smug:
my name is ridge, let me post an article proving assange rapes babies
(with lack of evidence)
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Rumsfeld drives a CTS?
[QUOTE=RayDark;25705669]Starpluck phrase it like this;
I AM ABOUT TO PLAY ON THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WERE WHINING ABOUT INNOCENT PEOPLE DYING AS A RESULT OF THIS LEAK, BEWARE SARCASM
[sp]Innocent people will die as a result from this leak.[/sp]
WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING
That will probably be enough to get it through their heads.[/QUOTE]
You're a massive moron nobody is going to die because of this le-
FUCK I didn't see the sarcasm at first
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25706078]Just another indication the government has no qualms with repeatedly telling bold faced lies to the people of the country, and even of the world. This is probably just one of many. :colbert:[/QUOTE]
They also tried to burn all evidence with nano-thermite! Here's the website that prooves it! [URL="http://www.rumsfeldtruthers.com"]www.rumsfeldtruthers.com[/URL]
:downs:
But yea, what Rumsfeld did was rather wrong.
[QUOTE=SweetSwifter;25706015]So many 'controversial, dangerous and secretetive' documents leaked.
Where's the revolution, the riots, the destruction of the white house? I don't feel that these leaks have ANY effect, other then the media whining about it.
Is this just me? If so, I guess I'm just blind then. Maybe it also helps that I don't live in the US. If this is the case, can an American please elaborate.[/QUOTE]
People are too timid, many don't know, or care about the leaks, maybe. I have no idea, really.
[QUOTE=Robert64;25705798]no they wont [b]your stupid[/b][/QUOTE]
Such bitter-sweet ironeeeee!!!!
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[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25706078]Just another indication the government has no qualms with repeatedly telling bold faced lies to the people of the country, and even of the world. This is probably just one of many. :colbert:[/QUOTE]
Implying any politician has ever been true to his world, and cared about the people who put them into power.
[QUOTE=Howlthrug;25706456]People are too timid, many don't know, or care about the leaks, maybe. I have no idea, really.[/QUOTE]
Most of the leaks, at least the ones that are usually shown on wikileaks, don't really show that much of significance to the foundations of the government. Hell, the only bad thing about most of those is that they covered them up, and that's that.
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