[video]https://youtu.be/6PJtrVC44fE[/video]
Also, TIL Vegan Gains is a hardcore Vegan, but he's also pro-abortion, strange.
[QUOTE=Toro;49681356]Also, TIL Vegan Gains is a hardcore Vegan, but he's also pro-abortion, strange.[/QUOTE]
How exactly is that surprising ? I don't see a connection.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;49681363]How exactly is that surprising ? I don't see a connection.[/QUOTE]
A lot of vegans go Vegan for ethical / moral / "all-life-is-equal" etc reasons, and you would think (at least for them) unborn fetus's (fetusi? I don't know the plural) would count among them, its just strange to me that such a vigorous Vegan would be pro-abortion.
Not a fan of Vegangains but this was probably the best refutation video that I've seen.
I never thought I'd agree with Vegan Gains for once.
Hope he continues like this.
[QUOTE=Toro;49681383]A lot of vegans go Vegan for ethical / moral / "all-life-is-equal" etc reasons, and you would think (at least for them) unborn fetus's (fetusi? I don't know the plural) would count among them, its just strange to me that such a vigorous Vegan would be pro-abortion.[/QUOTE]
doesn't make any sense, being anti-choice removes body autonomy which goes against most vegan ideals
[QUOTE=Shadaez;49682887]doesn't make any sense, being anti-choice removes body autonomy which goes against most vegan ideals[/QUOTE]
Some Vegans want to ban the consumption of animals and animal products. Some also want all non-vegans killed.
Its not exactly something thats well defined.
On the first question he says:
"Should we just judge other people based on their gender because there are other members of that gender you don't like?
He finishes up the video by saying:
"That is why I'm not a feminist, a lot of them are man-hating bigoted misandrists."
Shit, I agree with him on a lot of points and I think the video he's criticizing is stupid as shit, but saying "you can't judge an entire gender because you don't like some of them" and then saying "all feminism is stupid because i don't like some of them" is laughable.
The reason he gives for disliking feminism is the same bullshit reasoning he spent almost 10 minutes criticizing.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;49682976]
Shit, I agree with him on a lot of points and I think the video he's criticizing is stupid as shit, but saying "you can't judge an entire gender because you don't like some of them" and then saying "all feminism is stupid because i don't like some of them" is laughable..[/QUOTE]
The difference between a gender/sex and an ideology matters quite a bit here. An ideology is something you choose to embrace and identify with. Sex is something that you just are, not something you choose.
When your term is being dominated by misandrist academics and icons (Dworkin, Greer, Anita, Dalhousie crazy lady, etc) it makes sense to define the term with those people.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49682988]The difference between a gender and an ideology matters quite a bit here.
When your term is being dominated by misandrist academics and icons (Dworkin, Greer, Anita, Dalhousie crazy lady, etc) it makes sense to define the term with those people.[/QUOTE]
only makes sense if you decide to only pay attention to those kind of people.
Also it's weird how he said that considering he used feminist sources. Maybe bad wording? I'unno.
[QUOTE=Blazedol;49682994]only makes sense if you decide to only pay attention to those kind of people.
Also it's weird how he said that considering he used feminist sources. Maybe bad wording? I'unno.[/QUOTE]
Christina Hoff Sommers considers herself a feminist but isn't considered one by other feminist. Some universities (Georgetown) have demanded that her speeches be censored and at Oberlin she was shut down by feminists offended by her content.
You can easily google search and find her being called a fake feminist by major news outlets and feminist academics.
Every movement without a clear leader is a movement that will be defined by extremist fringes who yell louder than anyone else.
Wasn't this the guy that GradeAunderA was ripping a new one a while ago?
[QUOTE=Crimor;49683193]Wasn't this the guy that GradeAunderA was ripping a new one a while ago?[/QUOTE]
He is a complete fucking psychopathic, misanthropic, hypocritical weirdo who will pretty much say anything to further the vegan cause. He tried to film his grandfather having a heart attack, so he could upload it to show what eating poorly does to you.
But just occasionally he gets something right.
I knew I recognized that bulbous head from somewhere.
I Saw ShowOnHead do the exact same video but I like her's better than Vegan's. Almost the same responses even.
[video=youtube;_GGwfGSHJCY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GGwfGSHJCY[/video]
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