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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/L3wZsoi.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]A study says Germany's birth rate has slumped to the lowest in the world, prompting fears labour market shortages will damage the economy. [B]Germany has dropped below Japan to have not just the lowest birth rate across Europe but also globally[/B], according to the report by Germany-based analysts. Its authors warned of the effects of a shrinking working-age population. They said women's participation in the workforce would be key to the country's economic future. [B]In Germany, an average of 8.2 children were born per 1,000 inhabitants over the past five years[/B], according to the study by German auditing firm BDO with the Hamburg Institute of International Economics (HWWI). It said [B]Japan saw 8.4 children born per 1,000 inhabitants over the same time period[/B]. ... [B]In Europe, Portugal and Italy came in second and third with an average of 9.0 and 9.3 children, respectively. France and the UK both had an average of 12.7 births per 1,000 inhabitants.[/B] ... Germany's falling birth rate means [B]the percentage of people of working age in the country - between 20 and 65 - would drop from 61% to 54% by 2030[/B], Henning Voepel, director of the HWWI, said in a statement (in German). Arno Probst, a BDO board member, said employers in Germany faced higher wage costs as a result. "Without strong labour markets, Germany cannot maintain its economic edge in the long run," he added. [/QUOTE] Source: [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32929962"]BBC[/URL]
good.the world is over populated.
Jesus christ. That title and photo.
[QUOTE=justin gurel;47837384]good.the world is over populated.[/QUOTE] No, it's not.
Well you can't take over the world with an attitude like that Germany.
Notvery surprising. A lot of people I know either lack the money to properly raise a child or simply have to work so much that they don't have the time to take care. Personally I prefer to sleep undisturbed. I also couldn't support a family with my current wage.
[QUOTE=justin gurel;47837384]good.the world is over populated.[/QUOTE] The over-population problem is only real in dense, developing areas. The west's declining birthrate isn't going to do much to change that in the big picture.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47837409]No, it's not.[/QUOTE] If we are to stay at current mean consumption rates (which are only growing) it is. And while the key is definitely in decreasing wastefulness and improving ecology, birthrate dropping isn't that bad of a thing at all as long as we can avoid an economical collapse resulting from high percentage of retired people, through for instance the greater employment of women in industry, but also the automation which is everyone so spooked of.
[QUOTE=justin gurel;47837384]good.the world is over populated.[/QUOTE] [I]~Clutching my cure, I tightly lock the door..[/I]
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;47837548]If we are to stay at current mean consumption rates (which are only growing) it is. And while the key is definitely in decreasing wastefulness and improving ecology, birthrate dropping isn't that bad of a thing at all as long as we can avoid an economical collapse resulting from high percentage of retired people, through for instance the greater employment of women in industry, but also the automation which is everyone so spooked of.[/QUOTE] This is exactly why people should stop spewing that 'we need basic income because automation will kill the jobs' rubbish. The workforces in western countries will only keep on declining relative to their total populations, so it's either people will have to work harder and longer or efficiencies will have to be implemented, which things like mechanisation and automation are. And then because of the ageing population there's going to be plenty of jobs needed in aged care but even in other things which retirees enjoy such as recreation and tourism. Not to forget basic income would be a huge drain on government budgets when they will have to pay pensions to a higher number of retirees.
[QUOTE=justin gurel;47837384]good.the world is over populated.[/QUOTE] Mostly 3rd world countries that are overpopulated. First world countries are seeing major declines in replacement birthrate which is why we are seeing so much immigration in the first world.
get your head in the game germany literally
[QUOTE=seano12;47837579]Mostly 3rd world countries that are overpopulated. First world countries are seeing major declines in replacement birthrate which is why we are seeing so much immigration in the first world.[/QUOTE] I don't think the emigration from the developing world is because those people feel a duty to balance out population growth in developed countries. It's because developing countries are generally shitholes and you can't blame people from wanting to escape them.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;47837585]I don't think the emigration from the developing world is because those people feel a duty to balance out population growth in developed countries. It's because developing countries are generally shitholes and you can't blame people from wanting to escape them.[/QUOTE] Has to do more with maintaining a cheap labor pool.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;47837572]This is exactly why people should stop spewing that 'we need basic income because automation will kill the jobs' rubbish. The workforces in western countries will only keep on declining relative to their total populations, so it's either people will have to work harder and longer or efficiencies will have to be implemented, which things like mechanisation and automation are. And then because of the ageing population there's going to be plenty of jobs needed in aged care but even in other things which retirees enjoy such as recreation and tourism. Not to forget basic income would be a huge drain on government budgets when they will have to pay pensions to a higher number of retirees.[/QUOTE] I disagree with that, though. basic income is not a bad idea. As for it being a drain, consider how much money would be saved on the bureaucracy. Instead of all these unemployment offices and people who deal with calculating and handing out pension, a simple system that pays out the same to literally everyone and for which the one single means of checking the eligibility would be a simple ID which everyone would have, would free up a TON of cash and you could hand that cash out to people instead of feeding needless bureaucracy with it. Furthermore, an actual issue with automation is, that it will only further skyrocket the income and wealth disparity as owning the machines and having them work for you won't force you to pay out nearly as much as the salary for everyone would, and the money you will pass towards the people who supply and maintain the robots will be likely a high level of automation as well. Finding fair and effective ways of redistributing wealth will be undeniably an important challenge for the current generation.
[QUOTE=justin gurel;47837384]good.the world is over populated.[/QUOTE] the world's population could fit in texas with a density lower than that of new york city we don't have a population problem we have a resource distribution problem
That image makes me want a hot dog.
Even below japan's? Damn.
Japan and now Germany. What's the point of all the wealth and economic growth if you end up dying out in the process ? Economy should be in the service of the people, not the money. Also article says how low the birth rate is, and then continues to say how "women's participation in the workforce would be key to the country's economic future". That's completely ignoring the main problem, you can't really expect women to have two-three kids while they go trough college and work on their career in a more and more competitive environment.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;47838555]Japan and now Germany. What's the point of all the wealth and economic growth if you end up dying out in the process ? Economy should be in the service of the people, not the money. Also article says how low the birth rate is, and then continues to say how "women's participation in the workforce would be key to the country's economic future". That's completely ignoring the main problem, you can't really expect women to have two-three kids while they go trough college and work on their career in a more and more competitive environment.[/QUOTE] Absolutely. Two of my coworkers are actually together and have a kid the age of 3. Now they're in constant turmoil. They need to pick up their son from daycare at certain times because those services also don't last 24 hours a day and at the same time the company we're working for demands them to work the same time as everyone else. Now since that isn't possible they're also facing getting (or at least one of them) fired since these two points collide with each other. Same goes for some of the drastic news of creating a lot of jobs - which is fine but doesn't really work out when one person has to get three of these just in order to support himself. The whole system is broken as fuck if you ask me.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;47838555]Japan and now Germany. What's the point of all the wealth and economic growth if you end up dying out in the process ? Economy should be in the service of the people, not the money. Also article says how low the birth rate is, and then continues to say how "women's participation in the workforce would be key to the country's economic future". That's completely ignoring the main problem, you can't really expect women to have two-three kids while they go trough college and work on their career in a more and more competitive environment.[/QUOTE] I think soon we will see the negatives of equality. When everyone is equal and is working full days, there's no more time for babies for anyone. I wonder how this will get fixed, if it will.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47838708]I think soon we will see the negatives of equality. When everyone is equal and is working full days, there's no more time for babies for anyone. I wonder how this will get fixed, if it will.[/QUOTE] That a weird conclusion... How about parental leave for both the dad and the mom? Now we're talking equality.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;47838722]That a weird conclusion... How about parental leave for both the dad and the mom? Now we're talking equality.[/QUOTE] Not to mention it would be for the best of the kids, too.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;47838722]That a weird conclusion... How about parental leave for both the dad and the mom? Now we're talking equality.[/QUOTE] The bigger problem is daycare and kindergarten opening hours not matching up with parents' work schedule.
[QUOTE=seano12;47837579]Mostly 3rd world countries that are overpopulated. First world countries are seeing major declines in replacement birthrate which is why we are seeing so much immigration in the first world.[/QUOTE] Not even, it's just that a lot of 3rd word countries are underproducing. The world isn't anywhere near overpopulated (Except maybe, [I]maybe[/I] coastal China), it's just poorly distributed wealth and production creating localized issues of population outrunning supplies.
Time to go full Brave New World and make baby factories and have the State raise children.
[QUOTE=justin gurel;47837384]good.the world is over populated.[/QUOTE] Don't worry, France more than makes up for it.
[QUOTE=kweh;47838954]Don't worry, France more than makes up for it.[/QUOTE] You're welcome.
Hitler's spinning in his grave
Little germany fucking dies. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtUT0D-tRHw[/media]
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