US ambassador to Netherlands describes own words as 'fake news' - Polidicks

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaDbSKFOA60[/media] [url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/22/us-ambassador-to-netherlands-describes-own-words-as-fake-news[/url] [quote]Zwart says: “You mentioned in a debate that there are no-go zones in the Netherlands, and that cars and politicians are being set on fire in the Netherlands.” Hoekstra replies: “I didn’t say that. This is actually an incorrect statement. We would call it fake news.” Hoekstra is then shown clips of him saying: “The Islamic movement has now gotten to a point where they have put Europe into chaos. Chaos in the Netherlands, there are cars being burnt, there are politicians that are being burnt ... and yes there are no-go zones in the Netherlands.” Challenged about having called this “fake news”, Hoekstra then went on to deny to Zwart that he had in fact used the phrase “fake news”. “I didn’t call that fake news. I didn’t use the words today. I don’t think I did.”[/quote] America isn't sending their best

I doubt he could even find the Netherlands on a map of the world.

I question this guy's ability to find his own home state on an unmarked map of American states, let alone other countries on a world map. Denying you said something and then denying the denial you just made is a good way to demonstrate that you had your balls and your credibility removed prior to being appointed as ambassador.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrTs8bdVT78[/media] Pretty apt.

[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52997778]America isn't sending their best[/QUOTE] I take offense to that. We're sending our very choicest turds!

I hate the reality distortion thing going on in the USA in regards to European countries especially the Nordic ones. "They're all hell and they're all horrible and it's all because of the muslims." I keep reading over and over from people living in those countries that "it's not like that" or that "there are huge exaggerations being made" or that "it's all lies" but it's such an effective psyop on the part of breitbart et al that it doesn't even matter.

[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52997901]That's ridiculous. We're not setting politicians on fire.[/QUOTE] He didn't say you were. He didn't say that.

[QUOTE=c:;52997921]He didn't say you were. He didn't say that.[/QUOTE] I'm reminded of that time Rick Santorum didn't say we forcibly euthanized our elderly.

[QUOTE=01271;52997919]I hate the reality distortion thing going on in the USA in regards to European countries especially the Nordic ones. "They're all hell and they're all horrible and it's all because of the muslims." [/QUOTE] Never did believe in that shit, people over-inflating the situation and repeating the worse stories people can find/come up with. Some people want to believe it's true because it validates/strengthens their own screwed up beliefs and makes them feel right.

[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;52997873][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrTs8bdVT78[/media] Pretty apt.[/QUOTE] Real fake news there bud. [editline]22nd December 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52997978]U.S. politicians could say "1 + 1 = 3" and there would still be groups of insecure, selfish supporters standing by the statement.[/QUOTE] Here's how that plays out every time. "1+1=3" "No it doesn't" "HILLARY CLINTON!" Whataboutism seemingly gives them a pass on reality

[QUOTE] Hoekstra replies: “I didn’t say that. This is actually an incorrect statement. We would call it fake news.” Challenged about having called this “fake news”, Hoekstra then went on to deny to Zwart that he had in fact used the phrase “fake news”.[/QUOTE] Republicans in a nutshell

I'm guessing tomorrow this guy will be denying he was even born, and then right in front of everyone's eyes he will disappear from the timestream like in Back to the Future.

American Politics has gone from dishonestly and false promises to gaslighting everyone.

I'm fucking sick to death of the GOP "fake news" buzzword and I'm fucking sick to death of the GOP.

Maybe instead of American they should've sent Canadian.

This is embarrassing, I hate having to feel like my politicians are right off of Jerry Springer or something

Welcome to the post-fact world.

[QUOTE=dustyjo;52998933]Welcome to the post-fact world.[/QUOTE] We have so many facts we've looped back around to no facts. Who knew knowledge works on a horseshoe scale?

Guys it's fake news that he said fake news. God you're all acting like nu-male cucked libtards MAGA!

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;52999002]We have so many facts we've looped back around to no facts. Who knew knowledge works on a horseshoe scale?[/QUOTE] Just gotta acquire more facts so it loops back around again, then build bunkers of knowledge and reason that we can flee to every 20 years or so when the loop closes again once more

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;53000644][video]https://twitter.com/petehoekstra/status/944616425284685824[/video][/QUOTE] You directly insult the mans journalistic integrity and repeat the same bold-faced lies and all you do is "regret the exchange". Man, I'm so fucking done with every aspect of our government. These fuckers aren't fit work a cash register at McDonalds.

[QUOTE=TraderRager;53000718]You directly insult the mans journalistic integrity and repeat the same bold-faced lies and all you do is "regret the exchange". Man, I'm so fuckign done with every aspect of my country. These fuckers aren't fit work a cash register at McDonalds.[/QUOTE] It's so bad that I honestly believe that the whole administration is deliberate sabotage. If not, then it just goes to show that humans are profoundly amazing creatures that simultaneously have members of its species that can do the math to land people on another planet while others try and convince people that a statement they said 5 seconds before didn't happen. I really hope that the next big education overhaul in the States focuses on critical thinking more than anything else. Maybe then the GOP will finally die and we can have a reasonable, sane, and constructive political party take its place.

[QUOTE=Idzo;53000261]Guys it's fake news that he said fake news. God you're all acting like nu-male cucked libtards MAGA![/QUOTE] Man, 2017's newspeak is really... dumb.

[QUOTE=piddlezmcfuz;53000725]It's so bad that I honestly believe that the whole administration is deliberate sabotage. If not, then it just goes to show that humans are profoundly amazing creatures that simultaneously have members of its species that can do the math to land people on another planet while others try and convince people that a statement they said 5 seconds before didn't happen. I really hope that the next big education overhaul in the States focuses on critical thinking more than anything else. Maybe then the GOP will finally die and we can have a reasonable, sane, and constructive political party take its place.[/QUOTE] When you start inspiring critical thinking people start having existential crises and that's bad for the economy.

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;53000644][video]https://twitter.com/petehoekstra/status/944616425284685824[/video][/QUOTE] Talking fearmongering anti-Muslim garbage about the country you were born in. What a winner.

[QUOTE=piddlezmcfuz;53000725]It's so bad that I honestly believe that the whole administration is deliberate sabotage. If not, then it just goes to show that humans are profoundly amazing creatures that simultaneously have members of its species that can do the math to land people on another planet while others try and convince people that a statement they said 5 seconds before didn't happen. I really hope that the next big education overhaul in the States focuses on critical thinking more than anything else. Maybe then the GOP will finally die and we can have a reasonable, sane, and constructive political party take its place.[/QUOTE] They say leadership starts at the top, and trump's ethics conflicts, terrible behavior, and adversarial style gives everybody else a pass to do the same thing even when its painful and hurts their own position

[QUOTE=dustyjo;52998933]Welcome to the post-fact world.[/QUOTE] Accountability will a necessity, whenever someone (i.e. this twat of a politician) is held accountable there ought to be any mobile device within arms reach to immediately pull up a video of said person saying said thing. Gaslighting, Fake News and Whataboutisms generally fall when direct proof is shown to the person's face.