Rather than making the generic discussion thread, I decided to make a thread where I share my own opnions about these two movies, and then everyone can share their opnions.
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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasia_(film)]Wikipedia article.[/url]
This here is one of the gems of the last century. It amazes me how no one thought of doing this before. Its funny how this movie actually started from Walt Disney's decision of reviving the Mickey Mouse character with a new design (the one that premiered with Sorcerer's Apprentice). Let's get to the movie itself: it is beautiful, but I really cannot stay and watch it in its entirety. I often find myself jumping the intermission parts so I can see the animation scenes- and it is amazing how much the Disney animators mixed animation with music. In the Toccata and Fugue sequence, thats exactly what I think of when listening to music- and this movie also sparked my love for classical music (I often find myself listening to the Fantasia soundtrack for over an hour). My favorite sequences had to be Sorcerer's Apprentice, Night on Bald Mountain, Russian Dance, Arabic Dance, Dance of the Sugar Plums (I think) and Dance of the Red Flutes. Sorcerer's Apprentice is one of the most magnificient pieces of animation I have ever found- its really hard to believe that the sequence was drawn before the tunes were composed- they mix so well and create one of the biggest gems from Disney. Fantasia- worth watching? Definitely- you might get bored when there aren't any animation sequences, but then again, this movie had an [B]15 MINUTE INTERMISSION[/B].
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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasia_2000]Wikipedia article[/url]
Call it madness, but I prefer this movie a little bit over the original. First of all, the only thing I hate about this movie are the guest appereances- when Betty Midler refers to Salvador Dali as the "melting watch guy", I get the urge to punch her in the face. The animation on Fantasia 2000 seems way more smooth and clean than the one in Fantasia- and it also has what I think another magnificient piece of animation along with Sorcerer's Apprentice- Rhapsody in Blue. The art style and the song match so well, and the song is so catchy, its all a big piece of art in motion. Some people complain that they dislike some of the sequences (the Pomp and Circumstance and the Carnivale de Animals sequences), calling them, in the Nostalgia Critic's words, "more fitting for a Saturday Morning cartoon". I have to disagree- a sequence like Carnivale de Animals would really not work if it didn't have a more hectic, more funny aim, and as for Pomp and Circumstance, I think its pretty awesome too. Not at Rhapsody in Blue or Firebird Suite's level, but it has its own awesomeness. The scene where Donald and Daisy finds each other is still a crowning moment of heartwarming for me. Lets talk about the other sequences: I completely dislike the Pines of Rome and the "Nutcracker" sequences. Don't get me wrong, the music is delightful, its just the animation- I feel like Fantasia's sequel should, yes, have CGI sequences, but not like the ones we had in Fantasia 2000, they seemed to sloppy and slow. As for the others: Symphony No.5 was really interesting to analyse, Sorcerer's Apprentice is well, Sorcerer's Apprentice, and Firebird Suite was a fitting finale to a movie that I think was one of the last 5 movies of the Disney Reinasscence.
What do you think about both of these movies? Share your opnion below.
Haven't seen 2000, but the first one is amazing.
My music instructor showed me and my class the first film to talk about the music featured in it. Music was really nice, and the visuals were really good for it's time. I liked it. :v:
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;24111030] Sorcerer's Apprentice is one of the most magnificient pieces of animation I have ever found- its really hard to believe that the sequence was drawn before the tunes were composed- they mix so well and create one of the biggest gems from Disney.[/QUOTE]Most music composers who write scores for films like to see the parts they are composing for so they can visualize better what the music might sound like in a scene. It's pretty common to have an animation or a filmed scene that won't have music until much later.
Anyways, I loved these films as a kid. My favorite is the one with the whales in the sky, I think it was in Fantasia 2000.
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Anyways, I loved these films as a kid. My favorite is the one with the whales in the sky, I think it was in Fantasia 2000.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGZeT07rqlU[/media]
It's called "Pines of Rome".
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[QUOTE=ProffesorAssHat;24111203]My music instructor showed me and my class the first film to talk about the music featured in it. Music was really nice, and the visuals were [B]really good for it's time[/B]. I liked it. :v:[/QUOTE]
Thats what I dislike a bit about Fantasia- you can see that there is a jump on the animation flow after Disney travels from the First Gold Era to the Second Gold Era. As when in movies like Fantasia you can see there's a whole more focus to the details, thus making the flow a bit more slow. In Fantasia 2000, you can see that the animation is smoother, the flow is quicker, and thus making it a bit more enjoyable.
Saw 2000 as a kid, holy shit nostalgia
i honestly haven't seen either movies
i really need to see it when i get a chance though
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wow fantasia isn't even on netflix (well, i mean avalible as of now)
Never saw 2000 but I remember some of the first fantasia from when I was but a wee lad
The Devil scene was always my favorite if only because of the music
I watched the first one a fair bit as a kid. Only just recently did I re-watch some of it, and (especially near the beginning with all the abstract imagery) it gave me one of the weirdest nostalgia trips I've had. Seeing this movie at like 2-4 years old, it was kind of like my brain didn't want to register that there might just be arbitrary representations of the music, and I interpreted everything in that intro as some kind of real object or piece of scenery.
So a lot of those locations and places I remembered from seeing this in my childhood weren't exactly places at all... Just a series of colorful shapes and movement.
If I'd been high at the time I decided to re-watch the movie, it probably would have blown my mind all over the walls.
My mom actually recommended that I watch Fantasia while high sometime.
Really awesome movie. I vaguely remember something about an egg and a freaky ass demon-bird type thing hatching out of it, and disrupting all of the forests and making the mother-nature type lady all upset. The bird demon was pretty freaky to me as a kid. I also remember seeing a replica of the egg in some building in Seattle, if anyone knows what I'm talking about they can probably tell me what building it was because I can't remember.
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;24127672]Never saw 2000 but I remember some of the first fantasia from when I was but a wee lad
The Devil scene was always my favorite if only because of the music[/QUOTE]
Night on Bald Mountain.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Ca_edg6RE[/media]
The demon's name is Chernabog.
I will always prefer the original Fantasia over Fantasia 2000.
I'm pretty sure I saw one of them when I was like 4. I had no idea what was going on. Then for a few years I mixed it up with that other cartoon 'Antasia' about that Russian chick with the dragon friend or something. Well yeah thats all I have to say about that.
Super nostalgia on my part. I remember the part with the flying whales with such fondness.
I wanted to watch them, I vaguely remember seeing one of the two (I think it was 2000) as a kid, but I don't remember anything of it.
[QUOTE=J4censolo;24129039]Really awesome movie. I vaguely remember something about an egg and a freaky ass demon-bird type thing hatching out of it, and disrupting all of the forests and making the mother-nature type lady all upset. The bird demon was pretty freaky to me as a kid. I also remember seeing a replica of the egg in some building in Seattle, if anyone knows what I'm talking about they can probably tell me what building it was because I can't remember.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FWq17CT6Cs[/media]
It's called Firebird, and it's based off Igor Stravinksy's Firebird suite. I doubt this is what he imagined when he wrote the piece, but it's still pretty cool.
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It's called Firebird, and it's based off Igor Stravinksy's Firebird suite. I doubt this is what he [B]imagined when he wrote the piece[/B], but it's still pretty cool.[/QUOTE]
To be frank, who did?
That's what's cool about Fantasia, it just gets out subconscious and transforms it in animation. It's like when Levine introduced Pomp and Circumstance or Pines of Rome: "Most people think of yadada, but we though of whales flying and Donald Duck in the Noah's Ark story". And remember:
[quote=IMDB]Eric Goldberg showed "Rhapsody in Blue" to Al Hirschfeld shortly before the artist's 96th birthday. Hirschfeld's wife Louise called it the best birthday present he could have received. [/quote]
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