Quebec police officer traumatizes & mentally scars two children by pepper spraying their father afte - Polidicks

[url]http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/daddy-what-is-going-on-my-throat-is-sore-quebec-cop-pepper-sprays-father-driving-his-kids-to-school[/url] [quote=National Post]It’s a scenario many black men in the Montreal region have been complaining about for years. They’re driving around, minding their own business, when suddenly they’re pulled over by a police officer. John Chilcott says it has happened to him at least three times near his Châteauguay home over the last few years. So on Monday of last week, when a young police officer stopped him outside the apartment building where he lives as he was preparing to drive his two youngest children to school, Chilcott assumed it was a case of “driving while black.” On this occasion, Chilcott refused to comply when the officer asked him to identify himself, saying he first wanted to know why he was being stopped. Chilcott’s wife, Rosemarie Edwards, was watching the scene unfold from her apartment window, and said she couldn’t believe what happened next. After Chilcott again refused to identify himself, the police officer [B]took out his pepper spray and sprayed Chilcott in the face while his daughters, age 10 and 6, were in the back seat of his Ford Explorer.[/B] “My kids were screaming in the back: ‘Daddy, what is going on? My throat is sore!’ ” Chilcott, 43, told The Montreal Gazette. “I was saying, ‘This is not fair, why are you doing this to me?’ There was no reason to be intimidated by me. I was just taking my kids to school.”[/quote]

[IMG]http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2015/12/pepperspray.jpg?quality=65&strip=all[/IMG] look at the tosser sporting the sheriff hat, you know the douche's on a powertrip first time I ever see a cop with an hat in Quebec, not counting royal mounties

[QUOTE=Mechanical43;49374199][IMG]http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2015/12/pepperspray.jpg?quality=65&strip=all[/IMG] look at the tosser sporting the sheriff hat, you know the douche's on a powertrip[/QUOTE] Yes, clearly him wearing that hat makes him a douche.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;49374206]Yes, clearly him wearing that hat makes him a douche.[/QUOTE] more up to the fact that he pepper sprayed a guy for no fucking reason and it's caught on tape, so yeah please try to make excuses for him

Its interesting how Quebecers always call Alberta a racist shithole. Meanwhile they're the ones with the racist cop problem and laws that specifically target ethnic/religious minorities. [QUOTE]Vill, who is seen in the video wearing a cowboy hat as a pressure tactic against pension reform[/QUOTE] Sure you're not on a power trip mister Arpaio?

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49374213]Its interesting how Quebecers always call Alberta a racist shithole. Meanwhile they're the ones with the racist cop problem and laws that specifically target ethnic/religious minorities. Sure you're not on a power trip mister Arpaio?[/QUOTE] it's just clichés left and right because let me tell you, no one country/province/region as the monopoly on racist pricks. we do have our fair share of idiots, naturally

[QUOTE]In Quebec, police officers are permitted to use pepper spray if they feel threatened or are in imminent danger.[/QUOTE] Clearly, asking why you are being detained is a credible threat to the life of the officer. [QUOTE]On Friday, four days after the incident, he received three tickets in the mail: for obstructing the work of a police officer, failing to turn off his vehicle when pulled over and for using his hazard lights unnecessarily. He plans to contest the tickets, which represent a total fine of $1,068.[/QUOTE] Oh go fuck yourself, Châteauguay PD. I hope this guy's court case kicks the shit out of them, if this is all true.

Both parties are at fault to be honest. The officer could have just said "I pulled you over because <reason>, now please identify yourself" to avoid the whole mess of having to drag the guy out and lock him briefly up. If the guy failed to comply anyway after his question was answered then he would have been justified a lot more. The guy also could have tossed his license over too but there were apparently two other no reason stops previously. The guy's wife is a third party at fault for not rotating her fucking phone for the video though, that and she was a bit too close to them. The use of pepper spray though, especially WITH CHILDREN in the car is extremely questionable. Want to know how to get one, possibly two cases of life-long depression and possibly a suicide attempt(s) in the mix as well? This is how you do it, pepper spray one of their parents at quite young ages. If I had to give a "most at fault" it'd be without a doubt the officer for the inappropriate use of the spray and for the upcoming mental health burden that I'm going to have to pay for some years down the road.

Wanna build distrust in cops from a young age? Randomly stop and pepper spray dad on the way to school. Self-fulfilling prophecy at work, here. And then the cycle goes around and cops demand more laws to "protect" them against the citizenry whose trust they've abused to the point of total disintegration.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49374213][B]Its interesting how Quebecers always call Alberta a racist shithole.[/B] Meanwhile they're the ones with the racist cop problem and laws that specifically target ethnic/religious minorities.[/QUOTE] This, 100x this. Albertans are made to be racist pilsner slamming white trash.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49374213]Its interesting how Quebecers always call Alberta a racist shithole. [/QUOTE] If by Quebec you mean "all of canada" then yes

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;49374515]If by Quebec you mean "all of canada" then yes[/QUOTE] It's particularly bad from Quebecers.

[QUOTE=Mechanical43;49374211]more up to the fact that he pepper sprayed a guy for no fucking reason and it's caught on tape, so yeah please try to make excuses for him[/QUOTE] You made explicit reference in the post that the hat equates to him being a douche and power tripping. That's not Ranger making an excuse that's you just trying to change your words now.

Honestly, I think the guy made a mistake trying to argue with a police officer. He should have complied, unfair treatment or no, and made a complaint later. With children in the car his first priority was not to let the situation escalate. Not saying the cop's actions were justified, but still.

*Points finger* See ? You the racist ! Not me ! Are you guys doing this right now ? Do you actually think anyone right in their head, regardless if they are in Quebec or Alberta, support this unacceptable behaviour ?

So what did we learn today, kids? [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ZxKSY61.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;49374526]It's particularly bad from Quebecers.[/QUOTE] Just because our politicians like to appeal to the right-wing xenophobes when it comes to independence doesn't mean that they represent the majority, far from it. It's just what makes for good headlines. You'll find an evenly spread amount of bigotry across all of Canada. [editline]23rd December 2015[/editline] The plural of anecdote is not data, etc...

[QUOTE=meek;49374908]Honestly, I think the guy made a mistake trying to argue with a police officer. He should have complied, unfair treatment or no, and made a complaint later. With children in the car his first priority was not to let the situation escalate. Not saying the cop's actions were justified, but still.[/QUOTE] I used to think like that too, but honestly fuck that. Why should you bend over backwards for someone who is there for your protection. He wasn't even belligerent and you have every right to know why you are being pulled over, for your own knowledge if nothing else. Keeping silent at times like these gives the dick the confidence to do something similar to the next guy and the next. And complaining afterwards never gives you the same feeling of closure after being treated unfairly since you rarely know if or how the officer was reprimanded (unless maybe in Canada they do tell you the result of their enquiry, I don't know) and you let things go off to the wind of internal affairs and cops watching out for each other. I might be wrong but I simply cannot see a call of "I was pulled over unjustly" made hours later having much effect.

For those who don't get the cowboy hat, it's because cops in Quebec have been in strike for a while, wearing camo pants and hats to protest....something I can't remember exactly. Hence the cowboy hat

[QUOTE=Mechanical43;49374211]more up to the fact that he pepper sprayed a guy for no fucking reason and it's caught on tape, so yeah please try to make excuses for him[/QUOTE] and where is this video? the one in the article just shows his wife recording him arguing with the cop.

[QUOTE=Fetret;49375444]I used to think like that too, but honestly fuck that. Why should you bend over backwards for someone who is there for your protection. He wasn't even belligerent and you have every right to know why you are being pulled over, for your own knowledge if nothing else. Keeping silent at times like these gives the dick the confidence to do something similar to the next guy and the next. And complaining afterwards never gives you the same feeling of closure after being treated unfairly since you rarely know if or how the officer was reprimanded (unless maybe in Canada they do tell you the result of their enquiry, I don't know) and you let things go off to the wind of internal affairs and cops watching out for each other. I might be wrong but I simply cannot see a call of "I was pulled over unjustly" made hours later having much effect.[/QUOTE] Because playing the hero against (in front of) someone most likely armed on a power trip doesn't really get you anywhere at all Having a camera and contacting his bosses will get you a lot further

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;49374234]Wanna build distrust in cops from a young age? Randomly stop and pepper spray dad on the way to school. Self-fulfilling prophecy at work, here. And then the cycle goes around and cops demand more laws to "protect" them against the citizenry whose trust they've abused to the point of total disintegration.[/QUOTE] Exactly this, people are molded by their experiences and in these little girls experience cops will pepperspray your loved ones for hardly any reason at all.

So he intentionally made himself look like a potential criminal by acting evasive and then wonders why he got pepper sprayed? This lack of respect for authority is why America is going to shit.

[QUOTE=AngryChairR;49376831]So he intentionally made himself look like a potential criminal by acting evasive and then wonders why he got pepper sprayed? This lack of respect for authority is why America is going to shit.[/QUOTE] How do you read "Quebec" and say "America"?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49376842]How do you read "Quebec" and say "America"?[/QUOTE] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas[/url]

[QUOTE=AngryChairR;49376831]So he intentionally made himself look like a potential criminal by acting evasive and then wonders why he got pepper sprayed? This lack of respect for authority is why America is going to shit.[/QUOTE] Pepper spray is not a tool to subjugate someone just because you don't like their tone. It's to be used to disable a threat and force pain compliance on someone uncooperative. Wanting to know why you're being pulled over is not a lack of respect for authority.

[QUOTE=AngryChairR;49376852][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas[/url][/QUOTE] sure just no one does that it's okay to admit you didn't read the article lol

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49376875]sure just no one does that it's okay to admit you didn't read the article lol[/QUOTE] Idk I've referred to them as the Americas before. Just because it's something you don't see used regularly does not mean he didn't read the article lol. He was not in the wrong for using that term.

[QUOTE=AngryChairR;49376852][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas[/url][/QUOTE] don't try to cover your kneejerk reaction when you can't even read the first word of the title

[QUOTE=BazzBerry;49376901]Idk I've referred to them as the Americas before. Just because it's something you don't see used regularly does not mean he didn't read the article lol. He was not in the wrong for using that term.[/QUOTE] yeah sure I've heard it before it's just not a very useful way to describe the situation as the environment(Culturally and socially) in quebec is considerably different from any where else in the "Americas". The use of "Americas" is usually as a large and vague term covering a lot of ground. I don't see it applying very well to a Quebecois issue.