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[quote]FRESNO, Calif. (AP) — A suspected contract killer charged in Central California with murdering nine people confessed to investigators that he carried out up to 40 slayings in a career spanning decades, a prosecutor said Wednesday.
Errek Jett, the district attorney in Lawrence County, Alabama, said that Jose Manuel Martinez, 51, told investigators he carried out the crimes working as an enforcer for a drug cartel. Jett said they believe Martinez because of the details he gave investigators.
Martinez was arrested last year shortly after crossing the border from Mexico into Arizona and sent to Alabama, where he awaits trial on one murder charge. Once word got out, a steady stream of investigators from across the country came to question Martinez, Jett said.
Defense attorney Thomas Turner, who represents Martinez in that lone case, said his client is eager to start a June trial in Alabama, so he can return to California. Turner said Martinez maintains his innocence to the charge there and doesn't seem to be a hardened killer.
"I've found him to be polite and a likable individual," Turner said. "He has a good personality as far as talking with him."
Prosecutors in California say otherwise.
Martinez targeted victims in Tulare, Kern and Santa Barbara counties between 1980 and 2011, said Tulare County Assistant District Attorney Anthony Fultz, who filed charges Tuesday.
Investigators have released some details of their case, saying six of the victims were killed in Tulare County, two in Kern and one in Santa Barbara. They ranged in age from 22 to 56, investigators said.
One man was shot dead in 1980 driving to work in the morning, while two men were shot in 1982 working on a ranch, one surviving. The same year, another man went missing before being found two days later by ranchers shot and stabbed to death. Yet another was found in 2000 shot to death in bed with his four children at home.
In addition to the nine murder counts, Martinez was charged in California with one count of attempted murder and the special circumstances of committing multiple murders, lying in wait and kidnapping. Four murder charges include the allegation he committed the crime for financial gain, the criminal complaint says.
The California charges would make Martinez eligible for a death sentence, if he is convicted.[/quote]
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/california-man-confesses-40-killings-212555940.html[/url]
One thing I never understood:
Why would you take the time to kill 40 people in real life?
It takes me forever to kill 40 things in a game, imagine what it takes a real person to kill 40 real people.
Fucked up shit.
Wanted to make a killstreak moab or nuke joke, but no I wont
[QUOTE=Mr_Awesome;44503541]One thing I never understood:
Why would you take the time to kill 40 people in real life?
It takes me forever to kill 40 things in a game, imagine what it takes a real person to kill 40 real people.
Fucked up shit.[/QUOTE]
Money will make people do a lot of things.
Would he be classed as a serial killer?
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;44503561]Would he be classed as a serial killer?[/QUOTE]
[quote]Martinez targeted victims in Tulare, Kern and Santa Barbara counties between 1980 and 2011, said Tulare County Assistant District Attorney Anthony Fultz, who filed charges Tuesday.
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I'm inclined to say yes. Contract killer is a better term in this case.
[QUOTE=Synavix;44503554]Wanted to make a killstreak moab or nuke joke, but no I wont[/QUOTE]
Yeah, i was going to then i read the article
What a complete motherfucker.
Disturbing, but interesting. He's practically a real world Mike Ehrmantraut, it seems. I just don't understand how people can get away with things like this for so damn long. You'd think somebody would've noticed something or connected dots before now...
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;44503561]Would he be classed as a serial killer?[/QUOTE]
If he killed them because someone was paying him to, then no.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;44503561]Would he be classed as a serial killer?[/QUOTE]
'serial' is what I'd expect more of someone who did it of their own accord, for various reasons, but as a hit man I'm not exactly sure it's the same territory. Yes and no I guess
Well that's terrible.
That's as many as four tens.
FBI says a serial killer is anyone who commits "a series of two or more murders, committed as separate events, usually, but not always, by one offender acting alone" for reasons of "anger, thrill, financial gain, or attention seeking."
He is a serial killer according to the FBI at least.
I'm not sure whether to be impressed or horrified
[QUOTE=Loriborn;44503746]FBI says a serial killer is anyone who commits "a series of two or more murders, committed as separate events, usually, but not always, by one offender [B]acting alone[/B]" for reasons of "anger, thrill, [B]financial gain[/B], or attention seeking."
He is a serial killer according to the FBI at least.[/QUOTE]
if he was a hitman for the drug cartel, he doesn't qualify due to the 'acting alone' part. Financial gain in that description would be more along the lines of collecting insurance/inheritance or flat out killing someone to get away with robbery.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;44503561]Would he be classed as a serial killer?[/QUOTE]
Contract killers aren't traditionally considered serial killers due to the fact that they don't kill for lust, thrill, financial gain, etc. So no.
[QUOTE=ccg;44503946]Contract killers aren't traditionally considered serial killers due to the fact that they don't kill for lust, thrill, financial gain, etc. So no.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure hitmen and contract killers kill for financial gain, or what else would be the point :v:
[QUOTE=Nodon;44503638]Disturbing, but interesting. He's practically a real world Mike Ehrmantraut, it seems. I just don't understand how people can get away with things like this for so damn long. You'd think somebody would've noticed something or connected dots before now...[/QUOTE]
Well you got to understand that the people he killed were linked to the drug cartels, meaning the people they were associated with probably aren't on friendly terms with the cops. He killed people who crossed the cartels in some form or another so it is not like anyone would be willing to put their life on the line to be classified as a snitch and be the next target.
It shocks me that people can do such things. Even worse is we had people like the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Parker_Ray]Toy Box Killer[/url], who turned their activities into a sadistic game, and we are still unsure how many people the guy has kidnapped and killed from 1950 to the 1990's.
[QUOTE=Synavix;44503554]Wanted to make a killstreak moab or nuke joke, but no I wont[/QUOTE]
post about it instead, i guess
[QUOTE=dai;44503768]if he was a hitman for the drug cartel, he doesn't qualify due to the 'acting alone' part. Financial gain in that description would be more along the lines of collecting insurance/inheritance or flat out killing someone to get away with robbery.[/QUOTE]
"usually, but not always,"
Think of the ", but not always," as extra info within commas and it makes much more sense.
[QUOTE=Crimor;44504011]I'm pretty sure hitmen and contract killers kill for financial gain, or what else would be the point :v:[/QUOTE]
Community service
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44504113]It shocks me that people can do such things. Even worse is we had people like the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Parker_Ray]Toy Box Killer[/url], who turned their activities into a sadistic game, and we are still unsure how many people the guy has kidnapped and killed from 1950 to the 1990's.[/QUOTE]
im always scared to click wikipedia pages about serial killers in threads like these
i remember reading the one about that dude who wrote letters detailing how he ate children to their families and shit
The economy affects us all. This poor man had to close his business due to these tough times. God bless him.
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