[quote]The grandson of US political activist Malcolm X has died in Mexico City following a fight in a bar, say Mexican officials.
Malcolm Shabazz, 29, succumbed in hospital to multiple injuries he suffered on Thursday.
Malcolm X, a black power activist and prominent figure in the militant Nation of Islam movement, was shot dead at a political rally in New York on 21 February 1965.[/quote]
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22489315]Source[/url]
[url=http://news.yahoo.com/sewage-strippers-mariachis-malcolm-xs-grandson-lay-dying-165817513.html]Another source with more info[/url]
A few days late but I suppose better late than never.
Im not sure how to react to this, Whoever Malcolm X was.
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[QUOTE=calebc789;40624846]Im not sure how to react to this, Whoever Malcolm X was.[/QUOTE]
[quote]Malcolm X, a black power activist and prominent figure in the militant Nation of Islam movement, was shot dead at a political rally in New York on 21 February 1965.[/quote]
[QUOTE=calebc789;40624846]Im not sure how to react to this, Whoever Malcolm X was.
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I thought that was covered in American education all over the country? To add to what asteroidrules said for whoever else doesn't know, just think of the opposite of Martin Luther King Jr. Also, It's a shame murders like this in many parts of Mexico continue to become the norm.
[QUOTE=galenmarek;40624928]I thought that was covered in American education all over the country? To add to what asteroidrules said for whoever else doesn't know, just think of the opposite of Martin Luther King Jr. Also, It's a shame murders like this in many parts of Mexico continue to become the norm.[/QUOTE]
the opposite of mlk jr? i wouldn't say that, exactly. both shared similarities and there were differences between them.
[QUOTE=calebc789;40624846]Im not sure how to react to this, Whoever Malcolm X was.
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Dude, you live in America. For non-americans i would understand but you should really know him.
It's what he gets for living in Mexico City.
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Lots of gangs in Mexico, I Would Not go there.
[QUOTE=Xakoro;40624988]Lots of gangs in Mexico, I Would Not go there.[/QUOTE]
Yeah we all know Mexico has a lot of bad shit in it. Doesn't mean the people living/working there want anything to do with it.
Well why don't they move then.
[QUOTE=Xakoro;40625006]Well why don't they move then.[/QUOTE]
Trolling or genuinely stupid.
Either way, please don't post ever again.
[QUOTE=galenmarek;40624928]I thought that was covered in American education all over the country? To add to what asteroidrules said for whoever else doesn't know, just think of the opposite of Martin Luther King Jr. Also, It's a shame murders like this in many parts of Mexico continue to become the norm.[/QUOTE]
No, not exactly opposite to MLK.
Malcolm X is to MLK as Magneto is to Prof. X.
[QUOTE=Mr._N;40625045]No, not exactly opposite to MLK.
Malcolm X is to MLK as Magneto is to Prof. X.[/QUOTE]
Similar ideals but different approaches?
Pretty sure Malcolm X originally gave out the ideas that the white man were inferior and were the devils while black men were superior, but his ideals changed when he went to do the Hajj, as he witnessed whites, blacks, arabs, asians, etc, all treating each other fairly and like brothers.
I've only taken an interest in him now, but I still don't know too much about him, but that's what I gathered from the movie. [sp]lol[/sp]
[quote]"Never have I witnessed such sincere hospitality and overwhelming spirit of true brotherhood as is practiced by people of all colors and races here in this ancient Holy Land, the home of Abraham, Muhammad and all the other Prophets of the Holy Scriptures. For the past week, I have been utterly speechless and spellbound by the graciousness I see displayed all around me by people of all colors.
"I have been blessed to visit the Holy City of Mecca, I have made my seven circuits around the Ka'ba, led by a young Mutawaf named Muhammad, I drank water from the well of the Zam Zam. I ran seven times back and forth between the hills of Mt. Al-Safa and Al Marwah. I have prayed in the ancient city of Mina, and I have prayed on Mt. Arafat."
"There were tens of thousands of pilgrims, from all over the world. They were of all colors, from blue-eyed blondes to black-skinned Africans. But we were all participating in the same ritual, displaying a spirit of unity and brotherhood that my experiences in America had led me to believe never could exist between the white and non-white."
"During the past eleven days here in the Muslim world, I have eaten from the same plate, drunk from the same glass, and slept on the same rug - while praying to the same God - with fellow Muslims, whose eyes were the bluest of blue, whose hair was the blondest of blond, and whose skin was the whitest of white. And in the words and in the deeds of the white Muslims, I felt the same sincerity that I felt among the black African Muslims of Nigeria, Sudan and Ghana."
"Never have I been so highly honored. Never have I been made to feel more humble and unworthy. Who would believe the blessings that have been heaped upon an American Negro? A few nights ago, a man who would be called in America a white man, a United Nations diplomat, an ambassador, a companion of kings, gave me his hotel suite, his bed. Never would I have even thought of dreaming that I would ever be a recipient of such honors - honors that in America would be bestowed upon a King - not a Negro." [/quote]
Wall of text I know but it's definitely worth having a read through.
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;40625117]Similar ideals but different approaches?[/QUOTE]
He was fairly radical for a while, saying stuff like black people should be able to fight back if their only option is violence, and that the white man put them in this awful position. However, near the end of his life, he went to Mecca or some shit and saw people of all different races all praying together, and kind of had some kinda crazy revelation and became way less radical, and began to think that white people and black people could live together. He even criticized the leader of the black muslims, Elijah Muhammed, which unfortunately lead to his death because a radical black Muslim shot him dead when he was in his house with his wife and kids.
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basically anyone who says malcom x was "the opposite of mlk" or "was a muslim that advocated violence" needs to read some more books
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;40625187]He was fairly radical for a while, saying stuff like black people should be able to fight back if their only option is violence, and that the white man put them in this awful position. However, near the end of his life, he went to Mecca or some shit and saw people of all different races all praying together, and kind of had some kinda crazy revelation and became way less radical, and began to think that white people and black people could live together. He even criticized the leader of the black muslims, Muhammed Ali, which unfortunately lead to his death because a radical black Muslim shot him dead when he was in his house with his wife and kids.
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basically anyone who says malcom x was "the opposite of mlk" or "was a muslim that advocated violence" needs to read some more books[/QUOTE]
Muhammad Ali?
I may be mistaken but don't you mean Elijah Muhammad?
lmao Muhammad Ali was a boxer. He was a member of the Nation of Islam but definitely not the leader.
Also Malcolm was shot during a speech.
[QUOTE=Araknid;40625208]Muhammad Ali?
I may be mistaken but don't you mean Elijah Muhammad?
lmao Muhammad Ali was a boxer. He was a member of the Nation of Islam but definitely not the leader.[/QUOTE]
wait shit yeah, wrong muhammed.
[QUOTE=aydin690;40624959]Dude, you live in America. For non-americans i would understand but you should really know him.[/QUOTE]
I live in Europe and I know who this guy is.
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;40625117]Similar ideals but different approaches?[/QUOTE]
MLK was about equality through equal treatment. Malcolm X advocated equality by condemning the white man's actions and black supremacy.
you think MLK got killed in cold blood? they gunned X down then ran up onstage and emptied into his body. and afaik that's what really fuckin happened.
and his son gets killed in a fist fight.
Also, the reason why the media didn't embrace Malcolm X as much as they did MLK was for a few reasons. First and foremost, he was a muslim. Wouldn't bode well with Americans back then, sure as hell didn't back then. Secondly, he was more for violence than MLK. Malcolm X never said that violence was the ONLY WAY for black people to get equal rights or leave America, he just said that it was justifiable if there was no other choice left for black dudes in America. This is super radical compared to MLK, who straight up turned around one of his huge-ass peace walks because he didn't want to get in a fight with the police. MLK was completely against violence in every way, Malcolm was for it IF and only if it was the only choice they had.
also malcom x has a badass beard, totally schooled these white folk in an interview, and has the coolest quotes.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvzvQpv1XrE[/media]
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/WnozXPN.jpg[/IMG]
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also if you like to read, i'd definitely recommend picking up his autobiography. i haven't finished it yet, but it's hardcore as hell.
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oh, oh, and before i butt out: malcolm x was basically the coolest dude ever after he got back from mecca. he left the black muslim boyscouts or whatever because they were preaching the hate of the white man, while malcolm saw it all differently. he got killed because of this change, as i've said before.
i always believed in a middle ground between king and X.
like if you wanna revolt let me join even though im white.
both of them are cool, but i think malcolm x is way cooler. his life is way more interesting.
iirc he was also more popular with some of the more radical younger black activists because he was more for getting up and changing right away than standing around holding hands and hoping for peace. probably would have had more support if he wasn't muslim and the media didn't fuck with his image
personally i think X is cooler, but the fact that he was so brutally murdered when king was just sniped...
it means X was pissing off people way more than king, gotta respect a man for it. and im pretty sure he knew it was coming too. he appeared in public anyway.
even if it means they won't stop shooting even when you're on the ground, the only movements you make the shock of the bullets impacting your lifeless body.
if i ever become some kind of activist that's how i want to go out. you know you're doing something right when someone wants you that dead.
I don't see how this is really news other than he was related to a historical person.
If he were any other American down in Mexico and was killed the same way, I doubt it would be a headline.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40625432]I don't see how this is really news other than he was related to a historical person.
If he were any other American down in Mexico and was killed the same way, I doubt it would be a headline.[/QUOTE]
it's news because somebody got fucking shot
what else should we report on if we can't report on the relatives of famous people getting shot?
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okay he didn't get shot. i just really like that verb a lot.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;40625442]it's news because somebody got fucking shot
what else should we report on if we can't report on the relatives of famous people getting shot?[/QUOTE]
Thousands of people get murdered on a daily basis, where are their SH threads then?
for anyone interested, malcom shabazz had a blog:
[url]http://malcolmshabazz.blogspot.com/[/url]
[quote=Hajj Malcom Shabazz about prison]Now when I went up there, one of the things I noticed up north was that you have red-neck racist pigs that have tattoos of Black babies hanging from trees. I couldn’t imagine it. How is it possible that they are allowed to work here? How is this allowed? How is this permitted?
If you are not a racist, you could go into that environment and definitely become a racist because it is a different energy. These pigs would line up and have their sticks out and they would threaten you and taunt you, waiting for you to do something. They would have this deep hatred in their eyes with the veins popping out of their neck. That was the type of environment I was in. So I ended up having a few altercations with the police.
Another thing I noticed was that they had this divide and conquer tactic where they had the inmates fight each other in order to keep control. It’s more of us than them but in order for them to keep control, they got to throw all of these things in the mix in order for us to fight each other.
So when I got there, certain things I noticed and I spoke on these issues and I got some of the inmates to come together and we developed a little more unity and strength in there. When we would walk up the hallway, there wasn’t no more mean mugs; it was Black Power fists.[/quote]
[QUOTE=galenmarek;40624928]I thought that was covered in American education all over the country? To add to what asteroidrules said for whoever else doesn't know, just think of the opposite of Martin Luther King Jr. Also, It's a shame murders like this in many parts of Mexico continue to become the norm.[/QUOTE]
I dont believe anything beyond WWII was ever covered in my schools. I always though Malcom X was a comic book character.
[QUOTE=Winner;40624968]How are you in the US and yet don't know who Malcolm X is?[/QUOTE]
US History II classes rarely make it past the Korean War because they don't want to talk about losing Vietnam, which means no Civil Rights classes.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40627660]US History II classes rarely make it past the Korean War because they don't want to talk about losing Vietnam, which means no Civil Rights classes.[/QUOTE]
That's pretty stupid, I mean if Belgian history classes had to stop when we got our asses kicked we'd stop around the point Julius Caesar & co rolled up
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